so change x and y the main goal is to have it so the mob doesn't bounce around whenever someone hits the mob. if you make it so melee damage doesn't raise you above the cap then at least the person who goes above the enmity cap will know wtf they did to get hate.

Hey they did say "basically everything we show is 'tentatively named'!"

Or just get rid of the cap completely, and make enmity from JAs/Spells/etc. scale with level via traits.

I'm hoping for pancake knight. It's like a paladin but they use a pancake instead of a shield.


It honestly isn't even a hard fix they just need to go through and adjust things for lvl 99.

Yeah... like most other MMOs do it. Tanks generate far more enmity/threat than other classes, and there is generally no attainable enmity cap. It works perfectly for other games, you can't be comatose and only taunt once per fight but the tanks usually cement hate on themselves and have to worry about surviving afterward.

I'll take your word for it, since only other MMO I've played is 14, and I'm very happy with the hate mechanics.

Last I heard the real tank job(s) isn't/aren't relevant in XIV though? I thought PLD was the loljob.

XIV has great hate mechanics. I was surprised it worked so well, even at launch when everything else was a train wreck.

Tanaka just likes to see everyone at the hate cap, it has balance.

No, they changed a lot I think. PLD and WAR are the tanks now. I mean even though there isn't a hate cap, the threat of a good DD still pulling hate is there, it's just not "oh DD always has hate," like in 11 is.

PLD is still pretty necessary on Ifrit iirc. WAR had a time when it was the best tank, but they got nerfed recently.

It would be a good start for XI at the very least

Anything to cement PLD and ... RFN? RUN?

...as the main tanks would be fantastic. BLU and NIN as offtanks, but BLU's enmity generating spells would need to be nerfed in enmity gained, as we have far too many that are too readily spammable on top of other enmity-generating tactics for BLU not to be the best tank of all.

Yeah, PLD is really hand on Ifrit with the extra raise between jumps. It's good for a couple other fights too, though.

PLD is semi fixed, they buffed its damage output and made it alot harder for the other Tank class which is Warrior to hold hate.

Its honestly pretty damn balanced for once, I know SE likes to throw that word around but it honestly is.

Paladin Excels in single target fights, making it much easier for DD and BLM to go all out at the start of the fight.

Then Warrior excels in Tanking multiple targets by grabbing hate with Spamming Steel Cyclone.

Warrior can still tank single target mobs but the Steel Cyclone nerf and Collusion nerf hurt its enmity generation at the begining of a fight pretty bad.

Both jobs are 'Tank' classes, just Paladin was suffering pretty bad because of how overpowered WAR was (kinda still is but not so much anymore because of the SC nerf)

gradd lies i pull hate on brd.

Hate reset you meanie :(

I should play XIV :c

If your interested I am a pretty mean PL *** x:

So do I :( *** raging strike :(:(:(

That light shot nerf was annoying too.

I have like 3 weeks of game time left and the game installed... hm.

Made Garuda so much harder <.< My LS still wins it, but getting down her clones in that 60 seconds is definatley alot harder, same with the plumes in phase one :/

I have to spam Chameleon all day :( But my BRD is pretty much perfect expect darklight boots and maat's cap though at the moment.

yeah, I noticed my damage plummeted since it happened, I'm not sure if BRD favours WS dmg 40/60% any more, I know it did pre nerf :( I'm pretty sure that it's still a good idea to go for high damage > low delay with BRD.

I've been so happy with XIV though, they've really put a lot of work into it. I really wish people would give it a second chance. It's so refined in places.

I doubt I'll have the maats cap before the update tbh, Darklight can just go and die :(

Ul'dah bow pretty much destroys everything not relic lol.

wtf they have maat's cap?

I could probably talk gradd into getting me crown :( pretty sure the +20 PIE boots are the common loot though.

Paragon's crown, +10 to all stats.

I'm probably just going to try and double meld materia tbh. I'm pretty sure I can use some boots that have like 6 dex on them