What's best Staff to use for wind element? Been a rdm I like the Aquilo's staff but would it be better to use wind staff if using wind attack? Aquilo's Staff shows 20+ attack on wind elemnt that's what would cause me to use it. Please give your opinion.
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Auster's is the best of the elemental staves for wind-based spells.
Aero I/II/III/IV Aeroga I/II/III Silence Gravity Using an Aquilo's will give you the 5 Int and the +15 bonus to Elemental Magic Skill, but... It will also give you a -15% MAB/MAC to all wind spells. Thanks for the link, Endelig. :P Aquilo's Staff makes wind based spells worse. The +20 wind is wind resistance because wind is weak to ice (hitting Shiva with something wind based for example). One of the hidden effects on the Aquilo's Staff is -15% potency to wind based spells.
Always use same element staff as the spell always. And its +15% dmg not MAB its applied afterwards which is the whole reason the new +20 and +25 MAB staffs do less dmg. Also testing has shown that the macc added is around +20-30.
Dasva said: Always use same element staff as the spell always. And its +15% dmg not MAB its applied afterwards which is the whole reason the new +20 and +25 MAB staffs do less dmg. Also testing has shown that the macc added is around +20-30. Only one exception that I know of is Threnodies, Lightning Threnody = Earth staff et cetera. Dasva said: ...And its +15% dmg not MAB its applied afterwards Yea, that's what I meant when I said potency. Not MAB. Jimmyjazz said: Dasva said: Always use same element staff as the spell always. And its +15% dmg not MAB its applied afterwards which is the whole reason the new +20 and +25 MAB staffs do less dmg. Also testing has shown that the macc added is around +20-30. Only one exception that I know of is Threnodies, Lightning Threnody = Earth staff et cetera. Well, not really an exception. Lightning threnody is Earth based. Jimmyjazz said: Dasva said: Always use same element staff as the spell always. And its +15% dmg not MAB its applied afterwards which is the whole reason the new +20 and +25 MAB staffs do less dmg. Also testing has shown that the macc added is around +20-30. Only one exception that I know of is Threnodies, Lightning Threnody = Earth staff et cetera. Lightning threnody is a earth element spell... just like all the barspells are the opposite element that there upping the resistance too Dasva said: Jimmyjazz said: Dasva said: Always use same element staff as the spell always. And its +15% dmg not MAB its applied afterwards which is the whole reason the new +20 and +25 MAB staffs do less dmg. Also testing has shown that the macc added is around +20-30. Only one exception that I know of is Threnodies, Lightning Threnody = Earth staff et cetera. Lightning threnody is a earth element spell... just like all the barspells are the opposite element that there upping the resistance too You would be correct, the spell names however are quite misleading for some folks. Best way to check is the color next to the spell in your menu, match that up with appropriate elemental staff. The HQ staves give +/- 15% to Dmg / Acc. The NQ give +/- 10% to Dmg / Acc.
+ for the element of the staff and - for the element weak to it. Tbest said: The HQ staves give +/- 20% to Dmg / Acc. The NQ give +/- 15% to Dmg / Acc. + for the element of the staff and - for the element weak to it. cough HQ 15 NQ 10 cough In my Opinion, nothing can be better then a Set of HQ Staffs :P
Yeah, HQ staves are pretty much the best you can get for casting any spell.
Tbest said: Yeah, HQ staves are pretty much the best you can get for casting any spell. Now I gotta save up the 8 million I'm gonna need for SCH when I hit 51. Gonna be a while lol :P Just get into a good Dyna shell and start sponsoring runs. Gee... Wish I knew of one where you could sponsor runs...*Hint, hint.*
Sparow said: In my Opinion, nothing can be better then a Set of HQ Staffs :P Numbers and testing show that with the exception of alky staff for debuffs only that yes this is right Don't forget the SMNs in this. HQ staffs have -3 perp cost on the right element (aka Jupiter's Staff gives -3 perp cost on Ramuh only, but +3 perp cost on Titan only)
Korpg said: Don't forget the SMNs in this. HQ staffs have -3 perp cost on the right element (aka Jupiter's Staff gives -3 perp cost on Ramuh only, but +3 perp cost on Titan only) Nirvana or gtfo... bahamuts staff to tied you over is ok i guess Yeah, Bahamut's is > than 'most' HQ staves. I'd still prefer a NQ/HQ light staff and at least a NQ Dark Staff though. The 5 Smn magic skill just can't replace the benefits of those two.
Tbest said: Yeah, Bahamut's is > than 'most' HQ staves. I'd still prefer a NQ/HQ light staff and at least a NQ Dark Staff though. The 5 Smn magic skill just can't replace the benefits of those two. for smn? It gives the same -prep cost of the HQ staffs...
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Dasva said: Tbest said: Yeah, Bahamut's is > than 'most' HQ staves. I'd still prefer a NQ/HQ light staff and at least a NQ Dark Staff though. The 5 Smn magic skill just can't replace the benefits of those two. for smn? It gives the same -prep cost of the HQ staffs... yeah but it saves you ALOT of inventory space instead of having all those HQ staff and if your not planning on lvl'ing blm or another mage job boom gilz edit: oh and +5 smn skill methinks too Thunderz said: Dasva said: Tbest said: Yeah, Bahamut's is > than 'most' HQ staves. I'd still prefer a NQ/HQ light staff and at least a NQ Dark Staff though. The 5 Smn magic skill just can't replace the benefits of those two. for smn? It gives the same -prep cost of the HQ staffs... yeah but it saves you ALOT of inventory space instead of having all those HQ staff and if your not planning on lvl'ing blm or another mage job boom gilz hence why i was qustioning the whole elental staves... why would you waste 7 more slots to get the same prep cost and less smning skill and mp too...
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I like my HQ staves for BLM, I do hope that one day SE makes the mythic BLM weapon able to trump them tho. There should always be an endgame piece that can top a crafted item, even a HQ.
lol I tl: dr so im probably missing something T.T
Thunderz said: lol I tl: dr so im probably missing something T.T Sure... Tbest said: The HQ staves give +/- 15% to Dmg / Acc. The NQ give +/- 10% to Dmg / Acc. + for the element of the staff and - for the element weak to it. Not quite. The damage is correct but testing has shown the MAcc bonus is in the 20-30 range for the relevant element. This, even more than the fact that you'll generally outdamage the MAB staves, is why you should stick to the HQ staves. Dasva said: Thunderz said: Dasva said: Tbest said: Yeah, Bahamut's is > than 'most' HQ staves. I'd still prefer a NQ/HQ light staff and at least a NQ Dark Staff though. The 5 Smn magic skill just can't replace the benefits of those two. for smn? It gives the same -prep cost of the HQ staffs... yeah but it saves you ALOT of inventory space instead of having all those HQ staff and if your not planning on lvl'ing blm or another mage job boom gilz hence why i was qustioning the whole elental staves... why would you waste 7 more slots to get the same prep cost and less smning skill and mp too... You should still keep Terra's, Apollo's, and Pluto's on hand for damage reduction, cures, and hMP, so you're really only saving 4 slots XD Nightfyre said: This, even more than the fact that you'll generally outdamage the MAB staves, is why you should stick to the HQ staves. Which just makes me sad. If people do the work to acquire a mythic, they shouldn't look at it and go "ya know... why?" doing the math if im not mistaken it was around base 33MAB for HQ staff to beat +20MAB staff and around 60ish for +25MAB staff... 33 is laughable since blm gets 32 just from job traits not to mention up to 10 more from merits. 60 is still pretty damn easy for a blm
I should probably stop talking... if SE sees something like this, they're gonna be "ya know, he's right... NERF THE HQS!!"
Kyaaadaa said: Nightfyre said: This, even more than the fact that you'll generally outdamage the MAB staves, is why you should stick to the HQ staves. Which just makes me sad. If people do the work to acquire a mythic, they shouldn't look at it and go "ya know... why?" The very first postings on mythics from when premier sites tested them indicated that the aftermath lasted for a very long time like until you zoned or unequiped or something and that instead of getting 1 of the effects you got them all. Most of the weapons being good were highly dependent on this being true... without it most are gonna suck hard |
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