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The Beast Within -- A Guide to Blue Mage
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By Asura.Redshift 2013-05-01 20:55:40
Ok, got a question. As a starting out Blue, what spells are worth picking up and what ones can really be ignored unless I want to be a completionist. All of them.
Siren.Kyte
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-05-01 21:14:24
Take a look at the spells used in the sets on the first page- get those first, then go for the rest. This answer changes a little if you're not just abyssea burning 30--->99.
Phoenix.Tsuekasa
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By Phoenix.Tsuekasa 2013-05-01 21:25:31
Ya, plan on leveling Blue normally without any major burns outside of just naturally doing books.
By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-01 21:46:15
So uh...with these new weapons around, Requiescat now trumps CDC? The answer to this has been eluding me for a while, and I was quite cynical of Requiescat to begin with when it came out :x
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-01 21:47:35
So uh...with these new weapons around, Requiescat now trumps CDC? The answer to this has been eluding me for a while, and I was quite cynical of Requiescat to begin with when it came out :x Well, you can't use CdC with any of the new ones. :p
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-05-01 21:48:13
How would Club + Realmrazer compare to Sword + Resquiescat?
By Ophannus 2013-05-01 21:50:04
So did they do anything to mob resistances?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-01 21:54:12
So uh...with these new weapons around, Requiescat now trumps CDC? The answer to this has been eluding me for a while, and I was quite cynical of Requiescat to begin with when it came out :x Well, you can't use CdC with any of the new ones. :p
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »How would Club + Realmrazer compare to Sword + Resquiescat?
130D club + realmrazer compared to the 109D sword or w/e the *** it is should be close, if not club+realmrazer pulling ahead.
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-01 21:54:20
So uh...with these new weapons around, Requiescat now trumps CDC? The answer to this has been eluding me for a while, and I was quite cynical of Requiescat to begin with when it came out :x Well, you can't use CdC with any of the new ones. :p And I imagine Vorpal Blade wouldn't be any better lol >_>
Motherfuck, guess I gotta split my WS merits between Realmrazer and Requiescat, then. Either that or I just drop Entropy to 1, Req to 5/5 and Realm 4/5 x_x
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-01 22:00:18
Like I've posted before, Realmrazer has about ~87.7% of the base damage than Requiescat has as well as lower natural skill, however it does not suffer from an attack penalty and the club has a higher D than the sword. If nothing else the club is the best offhand weapon you can get prior to the Delve Naakual weapon, at which point you offhand the Plasma sword and mainhand the Naakual one.
By Ophannus 2013-05-01 22:16:23
Assuming Kheper Jacket with 4% WSD isnt as good as Toci's for CDC?
By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-01 22:19:25
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Like I've posted before, Realmrazer has about ~87.7% of the base damage than Requiescat has as well as lower natural skill, however it does not suffer from an attack penalty and the club has a higher D than the sword. If nothing else the club is the best offhand weapon you can get prior to the Delve Naakual weapon, at which point you offhand the Plasma sword and mainhand the Naakual one. Alright, so Buramenkah mainhand and Halachuinic Sword as sub-hand then?
Sorry if my reading comprehension's off here, the introduction of Mondaha has thrown off my BLU a bit, heh
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-01 22:26:40
Assuming Kheper Jacket with 4% WSD isnt as good as Toci's for CDC? No, because you're also using Ocelomeh hat, and that adds a set bonus of triple attack to it.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-01 22:33:20
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Like I've posted before, Realmrazer has about ~87.7% of the base damage than Requiescat has as well as lower natural skill, however it does not suffer from an attack penalty and the club has a higher D than the sword. If nothing else the club is the best offhand weapon you can get prior to the Delve Naakual weapon, at which point you offhand the Plasma sword and mainhand the Naakual one. Alright, so Buramenkah mainhand and Halachuinic Sword as sub-hand then?
Sorry if my reading comprehension's off here, the introduction of Mondaha has thrown off my BLU a bit, heh
Looking at it I'm willing to say maybe Halachuinic main, Club off.
By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-01 22:43:55
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Valefor.Prothescar said: »Like I've posted before, Realmrazer has about ~87.7% of the base damage than Requiescat has as well as lower natural skill, however it does not suffer from an attack penalty and the club has a higher D than the sword. If nothing else the club is the best offhand weapon you can get prior to the Delve Naakual weapon, at which point you offhand the Plasma sword and mainhand the Naakual one. Alright, so Buramenkah mainhand and Halachuinic Sword as sub-hand then?
Sorry if my reading comprehension's off here, the introduction of Mondaha has thrown off my BLU a bit, heh
Looking at it I'm willing to say maybe Halachuinic main, Club off. Gotcha. I can live with that.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-05-01 22:49:02
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Like I've posted before, Realmrazer has about ~87.7% of the base damage than Requiescat has as well as lower natural skill, however it does not suffer from an attack penalty and the club has a higher D than the sword. If nothing else the club is the best offhand weapon you can get prior to the Delve Naakual weapon, at which point you offhand the Plasma sword and mainhand the Naakual one.
Why couldn't this be as awesome as it sounds.
Does the clubs really high delay bump it down any?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-02 00:54:25
Updated the guide to version 2.0, switching it over to node format. Everything is now in one post and it now includes some extra formatting bits. Links aren't working atm, need to find out why and I'll fix them when I do. fix'd
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-02 00:58:58
Itemset displays? They don't appear to work for me.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-02 01:01:56
seems to only be an issue for the embedded version, they look fine on the actual node page. possibly a bug I guess, will report it
Carbuncle.Marshy
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By Carbuncle.Marshy 2013-05-02 10:54:49
With the delve and naakul nms having extremely high evasion and strong AoEs would the return of BLU/THF be viable?
By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-02 11:51:55
With the delve and naakul nms having extremely high evasion and strong AoEs would the return of BLU/THF be viable? Seems unlikely, but from reading back, perhaps it's situational
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2013-05-02 21:15:46
Trying to see the mods and ftp on spells and I cant open the spoiler sections containing those details? Is it bugged or is my browser screwing up?
Bahamut.Krizz
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2013-05-02 21:17:01
Anyone have a fairly updated cannonball set?
Edit: Also I read on the wiki talk page that the def caps at 700. Is that true?
Siren.Kyte
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-05-02 21:48:33
Assuming they weren't just being stupid, what they may have meant to say was that on the content at the time of the comment, cannonball's attack was capped when defense was at about 700- which is maaaaaaybe true.
How much defense it takes to cap Cannonball's attack isn't limited by any arbitrary number and will be dependent on monster defense. Obviously at 99, that will be a bit higher than was at 75.
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By Cerberus.Pukushu 2013-05-03 00:19:40
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Updated the guide to version 2.0, switching it over to node format. Everything is now in one post and it now includes some extra formatting bits. Links aren't working atm, need to find out why and I'll fix them when I do. fix'd
i love this guide and have promoted it to all people who aspire to be a blu, however im not sure i see the benefit to the 2.0 version. forgive me if im wrong, but from what i can tell i have to click on each set now to find out what it has in it. while you do get more information this way it takes a lot more time to follow each link when you want to see if anything has been updated. if its not working as intended than disregard, but if this was your intention, could you display the sets back in on page 1 for ease of accessing information?
thanks again for all the work you have put into this guide and others like it. you have really helped me personally and many many blus out there.
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Shiva.Zykei
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By Shiva.Zykei 2013-05-03 14:10:39
Anyone have a fairly updated cannonball set?
Is cannonball even relevant with Benethic Typhoon and Vanity Dive? Since we're going /THF in delve now, was wondering if Athos tabard with the Crit dmg+ and stats would beat out the slight D increase with Magus+1 for Typhoon and Dive without CA on?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-03 14:16:04
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Updated the guide to version 2.0, switching it over to node format. Everything is now in one post and it now includes some extra formatting bits. Links aren't working atm, need to find out why and I'll fix them when I do. fix'd
i love this guide and have promoted it to all people who aspire to be a blu, however im not sure i see the benefit to the 2.0 version. forgive me if im wrong, but from what i can tell i have to click on each set now to find out what it has in it. while you do get more information this way it takes a lot more time to follow each link when you want to see if anything has been updated. if its not working as intended than disregard, but if this was your intention, could you display the sets back in on page 1 for ease of accessing information?
thanks again for all the work you have put into this guide and others like it. you have really helped me personally and many many blus out there.
it's a bug not a feature, and there's nothing I can do about it until it's fixed. if you have to use the spoilers go to ffxiah.com/node/25 they work there
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Bahamut.Krizz
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2013-05-03 17:09:23
Anyone have a fairly updated cannonball set?
Is cannonball even relevant with Benethic Typhoon and Vanity Dive? Since we're going /THF in delve now, was wondering if Athos tabard with the Crit dmg+ and stats would beat out the slight D increase with Magus+1 for Typhoon and Dive without CA on? My BLU is fairly gimp. I had a reasonable amount of gear for cannonball already, so I was using it while BLU/THF. Also for the range so I didn't get murdered by AoE.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-03 17:10:08
just use your usual STR/VIT set. No real swaps that can be made to enhance cannonball specifically.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2013-05-03 17:49:58
Valefor.Prothescar said: »just use your usual STR/VIT set. No real swaps that can be made to enhance cannonball specifically. I didn't have one until just now =D
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