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The Beast Within -- A Guide to Blue Mage
Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2015-01-30 12:56:30
So that's what makes offhanded Tamaxchi so good for landing things! Thanks
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Siren.Kyte
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By Siren.Kyte 2015-01-30 13:10:39
Regular +MACC, if you choose to augment it with that.
Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2015-01-30 13:38:11
Yeah, if that magic accuracy skill counted, it really wouldn't be a big difference between 45 macc and ilvl 115 magic accuracy skill compared to no macc and ilvl 119 magic accuracy skill. But 45 macc increase is quite significant.
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By Siren.Kyte 2015-01-30 13:49:49
Hrrrm, I somehow read the post above mine as a question lol
By Nazrious 2015-01-30 14:22:04
What are u using this for landing and vs what mob?
Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2015-01-30 14:46:57
Thinking Incursion bosses and SKC D fights Dream Flower landing.
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2015-01-30 15:07:11
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »... You have to physically land it so even with capped acc you have 5% fail rate. ...
I have a question about this - with the update to boost acc cap mainhand for dual wielders like blue to 99%, it would be a 1% fail rate now with capped accuracy? or are blu spells still capped at 95% accuracy?
By Nazrious 2015-01-30 15:09:07
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »... You have to physically land it so even with capped acc you have 5% fail rate. ...
I have a question about this - with the update to boost acc cap mainhand for dual wielders like blue to 99%, it would be a 1% fail rate now with capped accuracy? or are blu spells still capped at 95% accuracy?
Incursion, nope.
SKC fights... don't need the club but *shrug*
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2015-01-30 15:23:52
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »... You have to physically land it so even with capped acc you have 5% fail rate. ...
I have a question about this - with the update to boost acc cap mainhand for dual wielders like blue to 99%, it would be a 1% fail rate now with capped accuracy? or are blu spells still capped at 95% accuracy?
Incursion, nope.
SKC fights... don't need the club but *shrug*
Response to wrong post?
By Nazrious 2015-01-30 18:53:46
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »... You have to physically land it so even with capped acc you have 5% fail rate. ...
I have a question about this - with the update to boost acc cap mainhand for dual wielders like blue to 99%, it would be a 1% fail rate now with capped accuracy? or are blu spells still capped at 95% accuracy?
Incursion, nope.
SKC fights... don't need the club but *shrug*
Response to wrong post?
Was quoting to emphasize the reduced acc, Club has less than sword, not something you want in incursion.
Sylph.Traxus
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By Sylph.Traxus 2015-01-30 19:11:13
Maybe you should reread what you quoted? He's asking if physical blue magic caps at 95 or 99% acc now that mainhand acc was changed.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2015-01-30 19:12:00
still 95%
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By Ragnarok.Luloo 2015-02-01 10:18:18
Guys since it seems nobody mentioned already, are those ugly zoar subligar +1 worth the hunt for pt set situation? Or still DA iuitl+1 are the bis option? Also on thf forum i can't find an answer!
Bumping!
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By Ragnarok.Worldslost 2015-02-01 10:37:18
Luloo its in here somewhere that 1) never wear subligar 2)the iluti are still better due to the STP and 3) never wear subligar 8)
Siren.Kyte
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By Siren.Kyte 2015-02-01 12:30:33
The former. It's also notable that under certain conditions, Mimesis and Almace 119 are strong offhands for a Tizona user.
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By Ragnarok.Luloo 2015-02-01 14:22:35
Jeez, so 3 days to tizona and i must build a uson B? Would a uson A be the same? :3
By Nazrious 2015-02-01 14:36:51
Jeez, so 3 days to tizona and i must build a uson B? Would a uson A be the same? :3
I got 2 uson B, more acc n dex yes, please.
Now what is this I hear about Almace???? in what situation?
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-02-01 14:38:52
Jeez, so 3 days to tizona and i must build a uson B? Would a uson A be the same? :3
Ideally you would have uson B for dDEX and accuracy situations and oat xiu for fodder. The other offhand weapons all have their ideal scenarios, but I'd make a pair of gabaxorea A before I worried about niche offhand weapons.
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2015-02-01 15:29:05
Dual Gabo is really nice for Subduction tho, nice investment if you already have Uson A already...After a Mythic, 6x Airlixir+2 shouldn't be too much to farm tho :)
By mortontony1 2015-02-01 15:32:23
6x Airlixir+2 shouldn't be too much to farm tho :)
Plus the plasm for the actual clubs, unless you're getting lucky on drops :/
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By Asura.Highwynn 2015-02-01 15:39:36
Tizona aside, is 119 Almace our best mainhand now? 20DEX and fulltime AM1-2 seems like quite a large boon. I know we lose like 21 base damage over Uson, but the extra dex and fulltime 20-30% ODD on mainhand, 50% from am3 when tp is saved on fodder. Seems like it could overtake Uson. Comparable acc too.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-02-01 16:19:56
Not even close, the base damage just kills is potential.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2015-02-01 16:56:04
If someone can point me to an error in the spreadsheet please do (haven't actually checked through the Data tab), but I've pretty much always had 119 Almace ahead of any non-Tizona AM3 sword options when CDC is the main WS of choice even with just AM1 up and the extra 13 DEX not providing any extra critical hit rate. With my linkshell's usual buffs on a high level target, I have Almace/Uson(B15) pulling ahead by 1.1% over Uson(B15)/Uson(B15). Even in a solo play situation I'm getting the same 1.1%. Obviously if you can't maintain your Aftermath the result would shift in Uson's favor.
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2015-02-01 19:33:42
150k plasm is 3x Delve1 or 2x Delve2 runs...Usually a dynamis run will yield around 2 mil so almost 4+ airlixir+2 depending on server prices...
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2015-02-01 19:45:05
If someone can point me to an error in the spreadsheet please do (haven't actually checked through the Data tab), but I've pretty much always had 119 Almace ahead of any non-Tizona AM3 sword options when CDC is the main WS of choice even with just AM1 up and the extra 13 DEX not providing any extra critical hit rate. With my linkshell's usual buffs on a high level target, I have Almace/Uson(B15) pulling ahead by 1.1% over Uson(B15)/Uson(B15). Even in a solo play situation I'm getting the same 1.1%. Obviously if you can't maintain your Aftermath the result would shift in Uson's favor.
this is probably correct, but the cost:performance is quite askew. better off funneling the resources into Tizona unless you play RDM and PLD a lot as well
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2015-02-01 20:13:24
Of course. If I didn't already have a 119 Almace I wouldn't even consider building it in place of a Tizona.
By Nazrious 2015-02-01 20:16:53
So what is the best off hand for high acc situations with Tizona then?
Still uson B?
Side note: Gabroxea are very nice for subduction, was running dual nehushtans(sp) and upgrades to Gab and was a huge dif.
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2015-02-02 00:22:51
Of course. If I didn't already have a 119 Almace I wouldn't even consider building it in place of a Tizona. Wish I hadn't blown 1500 HMP on it. Never finished in my cinders though so it is at a point where the sword is worthless, but I sank all that money in to it ; ;
I'd be mostly done with alex had I not.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-02-02 00:32:44
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »Of course. If I didn't already have a 119 Almace I wouldn't even consider building it in place of a Tizona. Wish I hadn't blown 1500 HMP on it. Never finished in my cinders though so it is at a point where the sword is worthless, but I sank all that money in to it ; ;
I'd be mostly done with alex had I not.
I'm in the same boat with ukon, at least almace has a use at 119, even if it's situational.
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