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Neo-Nyzul -- Bahamut
By Gimpness 2012-05-07 22:28:27
so angry ;_;
edit: lul :X post got deleted, so now it looks like i'm saying that to Kaisuko.
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Asura.Fondue
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-05-07 22:30:43
you obviously cant say youre using clipper here or huttburts will gm you.. but if you dont have any strikes, why not gain atleast a nowalls and 275% advantage!
Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-05-07 22:37:52
The rest aren't detectable, it's been stated several times that GM's have meted out baransu to groups abusing clipper to hack through walls or run at galeforce speed.
Ragnarok.Eriina
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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2012-05-07 22:40:10
Funny thing is of all the things listed Skype/vent/mumble will probably help the most whether you have all the other "aids" listed or not. That is unless you're playing with identical quintuplets or something I suppose.
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By Asura.Ezekial 2012-05-07 22:48:57
I can understand why people are paranoid, but I would bet my live that those people that got caught were reported before they even entered. No GM is going to cycle through the instances trying to find cheaters, they are way to lazy.
By krish 2012-05-07 22:56:42
The LINE will be drawn here!... Ok, maybe a little bit more over there... Ok, just put it over there already... FINE! No line then.
By Gimpness 2012-05-07 23:09:32
I can understand why people are paranoid, but I would bet my live that those people that got caught were reported before they even entered. No GM is going to cycle through the instances trying to find cheaters, they are way to lazy. speed traps don't exist~
but whatever. Doesn't matter. Don't care to argue "ffxi morals" with you (or anyone else for that matter). It's already happened, if you care to you can go read one of those threads again~
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By Jetackuu 2012-05-08 00:18:14
the only thing on the OP's list that I don't know what it is, is fillmode (wtf is that?) and aside from that (only cuz I don't know what it is so I can't say) none of that list is cheating, speedhacks and clipping are.
By Jetackuu 2012-05-08 00:19:05
what's the point of requiring lamp .dat's? thought they fixed that issue (or are looking into it).
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-05-08 00:26:32
they havent fixed anything, fill mode lets you see/target/examine mobs through walls, but not walk through them.
By Jetackuu 2012-05-08 00:34:41
ah, carry on then.
By Solegna 2012-05-08 00:35:03
Because he doesnt want his new chars to get banned like his last LOL.
By jettu 2012-05-08 00:48:27
no ur canadian :D
By Gimpness 2012-05-08 01:11:04
Because he doesnt want his new chars to get banned like his last LOL.
thought you got banned too?
edit: and goddamn, this turned into a ***storm much faster than I thought >_>
like... seriously. I thought we'd be over the "cheating" thing by now.
By Gimpness 2012-05-08 01:13:38
also... Adaberk, Jingang Hose. Go away.
Cerberus.Detzu
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-05-08 01:26:15
Looking for a few people to static Neo-Nyzul.
As far as requirements go...
DDs must have Empyrean/Relic/Mythic (obviously OAT GS would be better than cala, TP Bonus GK over 85 Masa blah blah blah). Not looking for THFs or NINs, mostly want heavy DDs such as WAR DRK MNK SAM.
SCHs need 460+ enhancing, would like 500+, but I think that might not be so realistic right now. Capped healing would be nice too, but close and capped potency is good enough.
Everyone also must have:
Windower
Spellcast
Lamp .dats (I can provide them)
Fillmode
12% Movement Speed (NO CLIPPER WHATSOEVER)
I don't have access to vent/mumble/skype or whatever right now since my damned mic broke, but as soon as I pick one up I can probably put us on my linkshell's mumble... so having that's a plus, though won't use it if everyone doesn't have it.
For now I'm thinking we'll run around 8-9pm PST every or every other night, granted... I don't mind changing this as long as it works for everyone's schedule.
If you're interested either post here, send me a PM, or drop me a /tell in game. Sorry for not seeing the obvious, when you generally enter /sam and you can use sekkanokki for light skillchain on Caladbolg + AM 2 or 3 then spam Resolution in between. Unless you doing 100% 4k+ on resolution with OAT GS i don't see the point in refusing Caladbolg DRKs.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-05-08 01:28:53
i didnt know the OAT GS was better than the emp?
By Gimpness 2012-05-08 01:34:08
Poor choice of words on my part, was typing that up somewhat quickly. It's not like I'd refuse a cala DRK if they had everything else geared correctly, but OAT would normally trump it. Though... situational etc. etc.
In nyzul you're often running around, which makes ODD from torcleaver sorta pointless (unless starting at 300 tp on a boss), since when you engage you're going to have that 100% tp. Granted, with that cala does have a higher base damage and would do higher WS numbers. This also makes TP bonus somewhat at a disadvantage because it starts to lose its effect past 100tp.
I really only meant to give exceptions to emp/relic/mythic onry.
Ragnarok.Eriina
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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2012-05-08 01:37:19
I'm interested to hear how this group turns out.
Cerberus.Detzu
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-05-08 01:38:28
Poor choice of words on my part, was typing that up somewhat quickly. It's not like I'd refuse a cala DRK if they had everything else geared correctly, but OAT would normally trump it. Though... situational etc. etc.
In nyzul you're often running around, which makes ODD from torcleaver sorta pointless (unless starting at 300 tp on a boss), since when you engage you're going to have that 100% tp. Granted, with that cala does have a higher base damage and would do higher WS numbers.
I really only meant to give exceptions to emp/relic/mythic onry.
With 2 SCH you're gonna be running with Embrava during 24 minutes (you often gonna be between 200 and 300% TP).
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By Gimpness 2012-05-08 01:39:46
Hopefully more than 24... Should be at least 27-29 if you're casting and recasting before rasa wears.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-05-08 01:45:37
Poor choice of words on my part, was typing that up somewhat quickly. It's not like I'd refuse a cala DRK if they had everything else geared correctly, but OAT would normally trump it. Though... situational etc. etc.
In nyzul you're often running around, which makes ODD from torcleaver sorta pointless (unless starting at 300 tp on a boss), since when you engage you're going to have that 100% tp. Granted, with that cala does have a higher base damage and would do higher WS numbers. This also makes TP bonus somewhat at a disadvantage because it starts to lose its effect past 100tp.
I really only meant to give exceptions to emp/relic/mythic onry.
Yeah, with embrava/adloqioum on, there are a lot of opportunities to ws with 200+ tp, especially when you hit a one mob/lamp floor, since you can just regain to full. So I dont see any weapon, other than Kantanotachi, being ahead of an emp/relic/mythic.
By Gimpness 2012-05-08 01:55:40
Yeah, with embrava/adloqioum on, there are a lot of opportunities to ws with 200+ tp, especially when you hit a one mob/lamp floor, since you can just regain to full. So I dont see any weapon, other than Kantanotachi, being ahead of an emp/relic/mythic.
This would make masa pull ahead. Masa gains an advantage with every tp over 100. Assuming you're comparing it to 100% tp bonus kanto.
though it doesn't really matter, SAM aint too great in neo-nyzul anyway. Loses it's touch because of all the regain. SAM's main thing is gaining tp quickly, adloqioum and embrava let every other DD keep up. Granted, that's just my take.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-05-08 02:26:45
My point was an OAT GS wont compare with a Cala but o well.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-05-08 02:29:51
My point was an OAT GS wont compare with a Cala but o well.
How about a 85/90 Cala vs a 99 Oa2x? I'm curious. Don't want to derail thread but curious which one would come out on top in Nyul.
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