Will There Ever Be A 5th Expansion Pack?

They should just hire me; I'll fix everything.

They can't afford you, Sylow.

Cause militant knuckles are hard to get...

That's probably true. I'd expect to be paid with more than cans of Asahi SUPER DRY.

Congratulations, you're halfway to following my point.

They'll be behind the times, like always. They currently don't recognize "Virtual Items" as commodities (Dibbell 2006).

If you could speak French properly, they actually would.

But who would want of a FFXI that cares about DNC? :(

You do have a point but his point, unfortunately, has more credibility and truth than yours.

First, you think that SE is just any company, that's a huge mistake, especially when we are talking about a Japanese company, out of all companies.

Second, you only base yourself on the fact that SE had a loss last year and other things... that they are willing to show you. You have 0 clue about what they don't show you, so do I.

I firmly believe that they can't keep the game as it is since Abyssea started (vegetable state). The whole strategy revolves around holding long enough for FFXIV to take off, which might never happen, so they'll have to kick FFXI in the *** one day or another. And you, like them, perfectly know that anything A Crystaline Prophecy-tier won't kick it strong enough.

Also, losing money means nothing. SE has money, losing is obviously not their goal, but what they lost is in no way fatal. There is more to SE than video games (more specifically: console games and MMOs), you should know this if you did any kind of research. And by more, I mean M O R E.

I'm not worried about what will happen to FFXI, I am worried about when it will happen.

My French has atrophied, but it just wasn't a Norwegian week. :(

Senkyuutai ...

So you're the type that reads facts, and then ignores them, based on your own fabricated interpretation?

Cool.

Where did I say that I think "S-E is just any company"?
I didn't.
S-E is a viable company, with a solid track record. However, like any other publicly traded company, success not only depends on the track record, but also "what have you done for me lately?"

The stock price for a share in Square-Enix has essentially flat-lined since the 2nd Quarter of 2010. It's a business that is spinning its wheels, and has been now for 2 years.
Is Square-Enix dead or doomed? No.
Is Square-Enix growing or prospering? No.
Just treading water.

Also, this is the most ridiculous statement I've seen on these forums in quite some time ... and that's really saying something:


Keep your pipe dream alive, though, by all means. Hope is one of humanity's greatest virtues ... even though it's also one of its most fatal flaws.

There is no hope, only

Where is Kililla when we need her?

It means nothing to them to lose this kind of money at the end of a fiscal year. They are more worried because they are ruining their main franchise's name than because they lost X amount of money. That's the issue.
They are still successful enough in the Arcade domain, they are expanding on the Manga domain, they have started making moves to cover this loss before it even happened. It just takes time. Did I mention the random figures and other things of this kind that ensure them a financial security? No, I think you are already aware.

I don't ignore facts, but I don't make up stories either. You are creating facts, stretching things.

You saying:

Is what is wrong.

First, you have 0 experience of the video game industry. You have no idea of how they see the things, how they are reacting to it and so on. You have no idea of what they plan to do.

Second, you need to seriously remove this american vision out of your mind. They are a Japanese company, 90% of what you said doesn't apply to them and is completely irrelevant.

Also:

Lolwut.

I'll say it again because, based on what you wrote in your posts, you don't seem to grasp it but, SE isn't only about video games, far from it.
I will agree that hope based on nothing is a waste of time but these two specific parts of your wall of text are just as wrong as a guy being hopeful for no reason.

Your "analysis" is laughable at best, especially when you fail to mention anything outside of their video game department.
Now, if you come up with an explanation of the JP and EU markets (specifically French one) and manage to explain, from this, that we will not get any real expansion in the coming years, no problem.

This arrogance, seriously.

To be perfectly honest, I don't think either of you said anything particularly convincing.

Most of that money loss was because ff14, they stated that on gameinformer magazine. Servers costs and developing such game like ff14 needs a big budget, specially when it's an online game.

Say ... whatever ... you ... want .... if ... it ... makes ... you ... feel ... better ....

Bottom line: Square-Enix's share price was roughly $20 USD 2 years ago today. Today, it remains roughly $20 USD per share. During the intervening 24 months, that share has dipped as low as $14, and not risen above $22.

It's a stagnant company. Not dead; stagnant.

Also ... what on Earth are you talking about, Senkyuutai?
You're trying to tell me that basic business principles don't apply to a business just because said business is a Japanese business?

Give me a f*ckin' break, man. Sure, there are cultural differences between the American people and Japanese people (duh) ... but business is business, sir. Profit, loss, investment, revenue, expenditures, costs ... regardless of the language spoken, these words have the same definitions.

wow at this thread....

As Tanaka on lead I expect new content about Far East as continuity of CoP storyline. It may not be full content released at once, but in periodic add-on portions. It would be great to see new jobs and brand new areas.

Some people mention about death of game, but still there is no other game like FFXI, not even close. All other games have super boring contents. FFXI is unique and great enjoyment for many of us. For my part I won't quit as long as I can afford it or until servers shut down.

cite sources so people can't qq over (mis)information.

or just close the thread cuz its pointless

technically playing the game is pointless, but just because you don't enjoy conversing about it doesn't mean others don't, if you don't enjoy the thread don't read it.

Oh but I guess you enjoy bitching, so continue your pointless complaining.
while that may be good and all his idea of balance is hurting the game.

They need to really balance the game somewhere between the hardcore level of a time sink it was before and the lulz of Abyssea.

Game has too many jobs already.

true, they can't balance the ones they have.

If u can point out the difference between this thread and the Roadmap thread that tells us exactly what we are getting over the next year then by all means leave it open. Otherwise its just a duplicate thread that brings no new discussion whatsoever. A new expansion really? When would that happen, late 2013? Right.

roadmap aside from vanafest, as for the difference I find this thread to be better.

If they plan on porting FFXI for PS Vita, like the rumors say, they better make a 5th expansion or else it won't sell

basically, but that'd require a huge flash, pricey.

(for sony's proprietary anyway).

If they didn't make the flaw of producing FFXIV as another MMO, they should have just went straight on with making FFXI-2. It would have made total sense...but this is Square-Enix we're talking about.

That way we could have had more expansion on the storyline and less issues about lolPS2Support, more than enough for an expansion.

The idea of making a "FFXI-2" for PC onry players is never going to happen...they will at most port to PS3(4?)/Vita not just drop consoles all together. Their favorite player-base(and the cash cow herd i might add) plays on PS2...the whole game was made base don PS2 code...they are not going to drop it...deal with it.

However, i do agree highly wasted funds on FFXIV. Then they had the gall to make a press release stating "our MMO in development is not another Final Fantasy MMO". false statements to the world and dumping your prime cash flow game is not a very smart business venture at all.

I didn't say they would make it PC-Version only. I could definitely see a PS3 port, as well as a 360 port. Vita? Gotta see if FFXI's controls aren't too complicated for it first.

the 360 can't even handle XI properly much less an upgrade...