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Physical Weapon Trial question
 Zantherr
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By Zantherr 2012-03-07 07:20:09
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Since there is no general topic for jobs, question here.

Is there any job where the occ attack twice or the double attack +11 Physical Weapon Trials are worth doing? Also, what one is typically better to do if either one should be done?
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-03-07 07:22:07
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I think greatsword if you don't have Calad/Ragna and polearm.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-07 07:31:45
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double attack +11 is a great off hand for most jobs.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-07 07:55:58
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Great Sword is amazing.
Unless you plan on making caladbolg past 90(Or a ragnarok), this is more worth your time.
Pretty sure the same goes for Polearm!
If you'r a scythe-DRK, and I'd say the Scythe is a solid option aswell, but entropy is a weaker WS than resolution is.

They'r also solid offhand weapons for 1hand jobs, but I belive str\atk paths beat them all unless you'r capped on attack.
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By Zantherr 2012-03-07 09:03:09
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Didn't realize there was an cap on attack. What number does that usually hit?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-07 09:10:34
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Depends on the enemy you fight.
Everything from 100(really weak) to 1400-1500? or so <_>
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-07 09:14:50
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pDif caps at 2.0 for one handers and 2.25 for two handers

A one hander you'd need 1200 attack to cap pDif and 1350 attack to cap pDif on a monster with 600 DEF.
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By Phoenix.Tsuekasa 2012-03-13 17:42:28
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Was thinking, are the Ursa Majors for Monk wroth going after?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-13 18:17:44
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Only if you have a footwork build.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-13 18:18:13
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Only if you have a footwork build.

Do you?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-13 18:24:40
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Shiva.Galbir said: »
pDif caps at 2.0 for one handers and 2.25 for two handers

A one hander you'd need 1200 attack to cap pDif and 1350 attack to cap pDif on a monster with 600 DEF.

Just a slight correction, ratio caps a 2.0, not pDIF (ratio is the ratio of your attack / enemy's defense)
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By Phoenix.Tsuekasa 2012-03-13 18:26:12
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No footwork build. Could make one but that would mean 4 sets of armor for mnk.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-13 18:28:52
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If you do Footwork, you'd need to do OAT2-4, too. Otherwise just go with STR.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-13 18:45:56
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I'm kidding. Please don't make OA2-4 unless it's for proccing.
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By Phoenix.Tsuekasa 2012-03-13 18:47:33
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So I take it in all reality, no point in making any of those weapons for Mnk
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-13 18:48:28
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If you're making any non-emp magian weapon, do STR ones.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-13 18:49:35
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But Austar! Dex is a mod on Shijin spiral! Shouldn't I make DEX weapons!?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-13 18:50:18
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Only for a footwork build.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-14 00:22:48
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Shiva.Galbir said: »
double attack +11 is a great off hand for most jobs.
The only job I can think of where it would even rate a "maybe" is BST, and I'm only saying that much because I don't know enough about BST builds to make a more definitive statement. I can't think of any other DW job that should be using a DA weapon, though it's entirely possible I'm forgetting something.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-14 00:51:29
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Shiva.Galbir said: »
double attack +11 is a great off hand for most jobs.
The only job I can think of where it would even rate a "maybe" is BST, and I'm only saying that much because I don't know enough about BST builds to make a more definitive statement. I can't think of any other DW job that should be using a DA weapon, though it's entirely possible I'm forgetting something.

is it still decent for nin? or does the 11/22 firs arisuri pull ahead?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-14 01:02:13
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Arisui is ahead. Even in the best case for Majimun (fSTR/Ratio capped, high haste buffs for minimum DW) it would only match Arisui. Assuming Kannagi 90 mainhand.
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