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By K123 2025-08-14 04:52:38
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Nariont said: »
Same reason drakesbane is often put to the side; its great when you can overcome the atk penalty, but its hard enough to find the sweet spot when you're at neutral. Then there's the fact single hitters are just so consistent ontop of having something like 60~65% WSD.

Probably decent enough under MS though, iirc before prime WS' came out ambu scythe spiral hell was the top warcry/MS weapon for slashing dmg, that's probably shifted to fimbl/disaster now
Fimb is only 1 hit at about 7.5 fTP with 2250 TP though, and can miss 5% of the time. Disaster is about ~7 and same issue with missing the first hit. The modifiers shouldn't change the overall damage that much?
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By K123 2025-08-14 04:55:23
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What about Ruinator? +10% attack, 85% STR mod, 4 hits, apparently fTP replicating but the fTP remains unknown?
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Ruinator

If I glance at the specs then it's unclear why Shijin Spiral is ***and Raging Fists is amazing too though.
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By Fenrir.Brimstonefox 2025-08-14 08:25:31
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soralin said: »
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
We had a fail the other night too, and I was thinking similar, but it could also be "kill at least 3 mobs, with an AVERAGE kill speed of under XX seconds." So if you have a really slow one it can totally screw you over.

This could possibly align with my result, I also paused to do 1 slow kill in the middle of my "kill streak"

It could be something more like "kill 3 enemies in 2 minutes" or etc?

So last night I killed one (Imm. > Imm. > MB > MB - start at 20' and hit macro takes ~22s) I think waited ~60s before engaging the 2nd one. Killed it in ~22s, pulled 3rd immediately, but because I was watching timers didn't realize my MP was low so took a couple extra low tier nukes to finish it off not sure on time probably ~30s. Killed 4th in ~22s again immediately after (had sublimation charged, just should have hit it sooner) and got chest.

So time from 1st pull to 4th kill was about ~3min.
Time from 2nd pull to 4th kill was 1:52 I think (< 2m)

I got chest after 3 kills < 25s (individually), I also got chest after 3 kills < 2m (consecutively). So not conclusive either way I'll try again soon but figured I'd report this if anyone wants to add their own data. Not being sure of the individual time of that 3rd kill murks up my data a bit, hopefully I can repeat again except i think I can kill (wait) kill, kill and not get the chest and all 3 are < 25, that would prove the consecutive time span theory.

I think I got a chest once with a longer kill in the mix and I was surprised but because I was not paying close attention to the time so I could be wrong.

Did the same experiment last night killed 1, waiting a min. killed 2 more and got chest (I think about 2:30 from 1st pull to 3rd kill)

This seems to support < 30s theory and not overall. So maybe its 25s or there's a 2nd condition (or bug) that affects it (based on what's happened to me I'd suspect its related to changing mob types, aggro or leaving the B area via porter the times I've struggled with it. (maybe there's a limit like the 5min. after entering C area for Bhoot too, although I've gotten the chest after 6+ kills once or twice I think when I had minor issues with speed)
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By soralin 2025-08-14 10:02:42
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Currently my theory is it might just bug out if you get the kill on the ramp, and the chest just spawns inside the ramp or something dumb.

I think you have to actually open the chest for it to count for porxie kill, cuz I'll wipe out the enture room and then kill porxie and I don't get the porxie chest.
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By Nariont 2025-08-14 10:11:30
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K123 said: »
Fimb is only 1 hit at about 7.5 fTP with 2250 TP though, and can miss 5% of the time. Disaster is about ~7 and same issue with missing the first hit. The modifiers shouldn't change the overall damage that much?

So couple things and i aint great at math so could be off too;

-its 7.5 ftp before accounting for wsd which roughly pushes it to 12 ftp with 60% wsd on a 95% hit

-The more hits in a WS the more likely it is to have a miss in it, at 5 hits you have a 77% chance to land all hits at 95% acc at 8 hits its 66%. So if we say 1.5 per hit on reso or 12 at 8 hits, then its more likely to be around 9 just due to misses, while your single hitter is just relying on 1 95% hit chance for 99% of its dmg.

Multi-hits used to and still sometimes give bigger spikes due to additional hits, but they also spike low for missing more, bringing their avg down to below a general frontloaded ftp WS, especially now with all the dumping of WSD

K123 said: »
What about Ruinator? +10% attack, 85% STR mod, 4 hits, apparently fTP replicating but the fTP remains unknown?
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Ruinator

If I glance at the specs then it's unclear why Shijin Spiral is ***and Raging Fists is amazing too though.

what do you mean the ftp is unknown, its 1.08 aint it? If i were to use ruinator or any multi-hit on war id just stick to deci, 99% acc on MH with about triple the ftp

It's unclear as to why a 1.5 ftp ws is losing to a 2.1 ~ 3.75 ws?(because you're using at 2k at the min.) the WSC is lower but the ftp matters more typically. Prefer howling over both even if miss rates at 99% are much lower just cause i like that atk boost(95% hit chance at 5 hits for 99% hit rate)
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By K123 2025-08-14 10:52:42
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Nariont said: »
-its 7.5 ftp before accounting for wsd which roughly pushes it to 12 ftp with 60% wsd on a 95% hit

-The more hits in a WS the more likely it is to have a miss in it, at 5 hits you have a 77% chance to land all hits at 95% acc at 8 hits its 66%. So if we say 1.5 per hit on reso or 12 at 8 hits, then its more likely to be around 9 just due to misses, while your single hitter is just relying on 1 95% hit chance for 99% of its dmg.
Hmm yeah, guess it's the WSD and you're right on the missing. I think they should make 2h 99% accuracy too.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-14 11:01:21
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Either my bst's gear needs fine tuning for this (I kinda stripped down the GS to leave unnecessary gear in safe/2) or UBnai needs it to be MBed or Rayked as well.
I landed it fine on Ubnai with ML<10 and good but not BiS gear on BST.
Only did that like, what, a couple of times though.
Soooo... there's the chance I've just been extremely lucky and it's normally a pain to land without 3x Unda Rayke and/or MB and/or Frazzle3.
I can try again today, I did double check my bst's gear and threw in a bit more pet:macc that I may have left out when I was stripping down the GS.
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By Nariont 2025-08-14 11:05:19
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K123 said: »
Hmm yeah, guess it's the WSD and you're right on the missing. I think they should make 2h 99% accuracy too.

Even at 99% acc i dont think it changes the standing of 1 hitters getting a good lead due to globs of WSD, it would close the gap a lil but think they still fall behind. Then you just go back to in reso's case having to compensate for a -15% atk penalty
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