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For what job?

Most do Domain Invasion for bead farming

Yeah, THF spamming Evisceration gets like 1,000 beads per DI (critical hits give a score bonus and it's very low-effort)

Im aware but afaik thats not actually fast, thats just slow/afk'able/easy

In terms of fast, I'm pretty sure geas fete is way way faster, no? Especially if trio boxing.

Any.

Zitah behemoth is quick and easy for any trio i think, neak is the ideal target as hes also quick if you got the dps for it and will give more beads than behe



By and large itd be odyssey weapons, beyond that a select few r15 unity weapons and an even fewer escha weapons like ruanns great katana. Like you say for most aeonics are very safe and quick/cheap choices exception being really just sword imo

What is the point of this question? Are you asking for a particular job or just asking to ask? There's still plenty of "options" you can pick from, but it depends on your definition of "Great" and what the purpose is. You talking about nuke or melee/ws damage? Tanking? Explain the purpose because the question is broad and vague.

Ranked Mpaca's Staff/R15 Marin Staff +1 is still very good for nuking. Ranked Bunzi's Rod is a good club still, especially for Seraph Strike or Flash Nova. You would be completely fine doing Ongo 20/25 in these weapons, I'd put that pretty high.

For example, I use R15 Magesmasher +1 on GEO in 9-boss with Judgment to not wall Black Halo from RDM. I don't have Tishtrya yet, and I feel Magesmasher is better damage than Idris for Aminon and Basement bosses.

Mafic Cudgel is still the only Club certain jobs can use that unlocks a strong Blunt weaponskill when subbing WAR (BRD, NIN, BST, DRG etc). It's also "all jobs". It might be a crap club comparably, but if you're fighting a skeleton or corse that won't matter due to their penalty. It's the "best" club those jobs can use and the damage is very good.

R15 Loxotic Mace +1 is a phenomenal Club, its what WARs use in Segments for blunt damage and vs certain Gaol NMs. R15 Montante +1 is still decent at this point. Even Agqu's Claymore has some nice stats.

Tsuru/Sakpata's sword/Acrontica are still decent out-the-box tanking weapons that get better with augments.

Daybreak can be used to exploit Light WS damage

Malignance Pole can see some utility, if you care about staff at all. Blurred Staff +1 is interesting as an option, ditto for a few of the other Blurred +1 variants.

I carried around a Beryllium Kris +1 for the longest while, to give my GEO a piercing option. There's probably a few of those Su weapons that could see some niche uses. Not great, but if you have no other option, its technically the "best" option, lol

But you have to have a purpose for all of these weapons for whatever you're wanting to use them for, so you have to be specific.

Gearing up a newish character, deciding on what job is easiest to get as fast as possible / easiest as possible to "Actually useful for stuff" mode

Geo of course is pretty hard gated by the long *** wait for idris, or you have to drop a huge amount of gil on the neck.

At the moment the strongest 2 contenders are bard or warrior. Bard can get off the floor and be moderately useful with just naegling+miracle cheer, which the char can have tomorrow night (still have bonanza token, and 1 quest away from 170 deeds for pulse weapon)

I already personally have a +8 naegling cor on my main, so another cor wouldnt be very useful.

Warrior also seems like a decent option, since you can go for Naegling + Loxotic mace and then start bead grinding for chango, which is a pretty quick route.

But if I was gonna spend 50k beads when I have bonanza token + naegling already on hand, I feel like I'd be better off getting aeonic horn for bard, which then just leaves empy harp to get the bard to "actually pretty jacked" as a second char.

Id still want mythic later but tbh miracle cheer + empy + aeonic is prolly plenty to get by.

And since derpyderba is a much cheaper and easier empy to make, it's arguably about the same cost as a dyna weapon, and since the other items are sorta "free", thats pretty good.

So thus everything comes back to "is there any other options than just naegling on war or brd" really, thus the question of whether any other jobs can *** ***up with stuff other than an ultimate weapon or ambu weapon.

The weapon is probably the least important element of your situation then. The weapon won't make a huge difference if you don't have the gear to support it.

Anyways, if it were me, I'd pick WAR or MNK. Easy to gear, easy to play, decent options as soon as you hit 99 (Sakpata, Mpaca, Kendatsuba, Sulevia/Flamma, Mummu) that can be bought with little effort or dependency on JSE (WAR would need more JSE than MNK IMO), and is very strong/tanky when supported. MNK can buy Sakpata's Fists, WAR can grab the Bunzi's Chopper. You won't have ranked Nyame (less important for MNK) but you could still have some decent sets within a few hours and some clears. MNK can even buy Sakpata's Fists (Su4) for relatively cheap and just sell it back when you're done with them if you don't augment them. I wouldn't invest in BRD unless you plan on going all the way, as it takes a very long time and gil to get it to the point where it's "Ready". Or just make MNK as your farming job and build BRD in the background.

Pretty much just need neck and empy harp in terms of large investments as far as I can tell.

Not having mythic dagger sucks a bit for proper duration on Honor March, but its still fine enough as a pocket brd for tri boxing stuff.

This isnt my main account, this is another character I am gearing up to support my main character in content, I just dont wanna invest more than maybe ~100mil into it.

Aeonic + Miracle cheer is "free", and then empy harp is quite cheap to make compared to others.

Warrior is also very cheap though, and both bard and war can get by with naegling.

So yeah I do agree War looks like a solid starting point, and since it uses naegling that transitions into bard very well too.

TP Bonus dagger offhand is "free", so is tp bonus sword/axe offhand either way.

nyame+sakpatas is dirt cheap for gear and, tbh, prolly just a 5/5 sakpata war with naegling is already gonna put out decent damage numbers to support my main cor in combat for doing random content.

Honestly it'll just boil down to which comp does better damage overall on stuff, Cor+Brd (without relic/mythic), or Cor+War (with chango)

My gut says Cor+Brd still comes out ahead, both just spamming savage blades with naeglings, cuz 4x songs + 2x rolls is so much damage, especially with adding in Sylvie buffs, we'll probably tear through most random stuff.

A lotta stuff I can just solo on cor already, but having the second char is gonna greatly expedite things really.

Daurdabla is 370k x 60 = 22.2m + 5m x 15 = 75m by itself so if your budget is 100m then you just spent it on a single piece of BRD gear.

Moonbow Whistle+1 is 33m. You'll probably skimp out and get a +1 neck, but you should really (at least eventually) get a +2 neck if you want your BRD to be doing half of your damage, that's another 40m, assuming you can get all the RP for free.

There are lots of other things too, like Moonlight Rings, Blurred Harp +1 (6m), Epa Ring, Sroda Ring, Sailfi Belt, Stikini Rings...

I mean if you are just going to cast buffs and AFK on the BRD it's not expensive, but if you're counting on it to be part of your DPS setup it's not just Daurdabla and Moonbow Whistle then you're done shopping.

Even if you're just buffing, the JSE can cost a non-insignificant amount.

TL;DR: REMA aren't the only expensive part of playing a job.

...You asked a very vague question about weapon options that didn't include Ambu weapons, and when given a list of alternative options to your vague question, your response is "COR+BRD would be the best choice cuz damage/spamming Savage Blade with Naegling". I have no idea why you ask these open-ended questions, ignore 95% of the suggestions, and then state what you had already in mind long before asking the question.

Fooled me once, shame on you. Fooled me twice, shame on me.

Weird question.

I started using 'gs org' after job switching to cut down on wardrobe use.

Works great, but it puts consumable items into safes and other non-reachable outside the mog house storage.

Is there any way I can get organizer to only use certain bags for things like meds, food and any other consumable without outright disabling those storage spaces.

Define the items you want at the top of each lua you want on each job.

Then edit your data/settings.xml file under the <retain> section so it says <items>true</item> (and seals if you want). This should keep consumables and other misc items in your inventory and move armor wherever there is space.

Nothing worse than playing with someone's half assed alt


https://youtu.be/k6hZ9KdG1QU?si=0s6nyNpB_rK7pH8M

I don't want them to stay in inventory. I want them to go to specific bags - case/sack/satchel and not safe/safe2/storage/locker.

In my original post, this part here covers that:


War or Brd with Naeg is indeed what I was viewing as likely the best choice, what I was asking after is if there's anything other jobs than that can roll with that is competitive to it as a pick.

What I find surprising is no one mentioned Pup, which is also a pretty playable job without ambu weapon or an ultimate weapon. That would've been an answer I was expecting folks to say... Bst prolly as well I think? I haven't touched bst in a long time but IIRC it can get a lot of stuff done with a cor without needing an ambu weapon or ultimate weapon.

The point here is you only get 1 free pulse weapon, so I can't take an ambu weapon other than naegling anyways, savvy?

And the answer seems to be that, yeah as I thought, naegling is by and far the "next best" weapon in the game after outright ultimate weapons.

Theoretically Rostam+TP Bonus gun is a pretty solid choice too, but my main is already a cor so that option is not very helpful... and cor uses naeglign too anyways so its the same answer.

Does that all make sense? Overall it effectively is a case that every path feels like it leads to naegling, and I was trying to see if anyone knows if there's literally any other path other than "just throw some naeglings at it"

I mean you dont need stuff like a Sroda ring to do respectable dps lol.

Yes, Whistle+Empy is what I was referring to with my 100mil comment, while thats pretty much the whole budget, the vast majority of the rest of the gear is pennies by comparison. You don't need stuff like Stikini+1 or whatever for the bard to function fine as "throw up 4 buffs on my main and then just spam savage blade"

It's not rocking absolute perfect gear, but its still a morbillion times better than Joachim lol....

I spent the time and effort on my brd alt
It can tank e boss and main heal

Most people don't need sroda ring
Just like most people don't need the pdl ring from the

Stikinis could help you reach horde lullaby max range which is pretty awesome for low man segments
Refresh when you don't wanna spend time on ballads

I can see the value in that. The big thing for me is any given gil investment is gonna be pitted up against "but is there better places to invest that gil on my other characters"

I have 4 characters total, and I'm gearing them up one at a time, so at a certain point it becomes way better to invest that gil into characters 3 or 4, yknow?

Yes and no
Best advice I can give is to tackle things across the board rather than individualize unless its going to help the group out.
So painful doing things like story content separately or doing abyssee clears multiple times

Ah stuff like that I have mostly done, and very little of that costs gil.

Purely just talking about gil investments here, like a single Stikini+1 ring is costs more than a loooot of gear for a different character, so I have to *** if thats worth it.

For example though my +8 rostam was ~70mil, the massive boost to buffs for the whole group made it truly worth it.

I find usually around the ~100mil mark or so is when investing into a given character starts to hit a very sudden falloff on diminishing returns, aside from making the jobs respective ultimate weapon, but that usually costs around yet another ~150mil or so.

Which becomes a question of, "is it worth it, compared to spending that gil gear up literally an entire another character though"

For bard, I think the answer actually is yes.

Im currently eyeing a party comp of Cor+Brd+War+Whm, so far. Though I might go with Sch instead of Whm, as that covers other use cases worth considering.

Either way, I think I'd throw Sylvie + Ygnas in there I think to fill in the gaps.

Expand the list to include all of the items and consumables you only want dumped into accessible inventory. Copy/paste and change 'safe' to each dump bag you want the items to be excluded from.

Frak me I hate xml.

Okay so just walked into this, what the *** is happening here, they were all spam using items (obviously botting it) and obtaining gil.

Wtf is going on here?

secret strip club, and they are throwing money at the npc

I mean what are you even asking. Obviously you know what it is.

Bots be botting. Pouching and selling npc trash for mad gils

Could have turned filters off to see what they were using and figured this out on your own, but it's Grand Velkk Coffers from Incursion.

Feel free to submit a special task force report. The names are:
Juztinius, Billwinkins, Ollette, Ihatecho, Ihatedreau, Ihatecini, Chojinx, Chancee, Cinikal, Kayster, Ihatethizzle, Hartlesss, Lachun, Qwakez

Yeah but what even is the source of the thing that gives gil, is there some content that gives these? I didnt have my filter atm set to show what they were doing so all I saw was them obtaining gil.

What gives it?