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Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-07-09 13:42:06
Would anyone know if the Moonshade earring Occ. grants dmg. bonus based on TP +5% works on ranged attack? Yes it does. Same way as on melee hits. 5% of the time you get enhanced damage based on your current TP.
1000TP = 33% damage increase
2000TP = 66%
3000TP = 100%
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Fenrir.Jinxs
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-09 14:06:17
That feels like a nyame lvl swap for someone with Armageddon to consider
By K123 2025-07-09 17:03:28
Any demons not in Abyssea good for doing trials?
Don't say locus imps.
By soralin 2025-07-09 17:14:30
Any demons not in Abyssea good for doing trials?
Don't say locus imps.
Kill or just spamming WSes on them?
For WS spam, Id prolly say Ahriman are your best bet?
There's lots of high level demons in Xarc [S] or maybe Castle Zvahl [S]?
By K123 2025-07-09 17:16:47
just ws spam, demons in past is a good idea but I want a camp I can keep going without waiting for respawns.
By Nariont 2025-07-09 17:19:01
Apex gargoiulles maybe assuming you can buff your acc/bring distract 3
By soralin 2025-07-09 17:24:38
just ws spam, demons in past is a good idea but I want a camp I can keep going without waiting for respawns.
Castle [S] should have fast respawns but tanky enough to last more than 1 WS.
Another option to maybe consider is perhaps demons in a BCNM? Maybe Macrocosmic Orb Kindred Spirits II? Those will be very tanky and can soak up a lot of WSes, but not so evasive you'll miss I bet.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-09 17:26:05
Demons in limbus? Unless its a killshot trial.
By K123 2025-07-09 17:37:04
Demons in limbus? Unless its a killshot trial. I thought about this but I don't want links.
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By Asura.Bertana 2025-07-09 19:05:16
How self-sufficient do I need to be for the messy midgame? Is it easy enough to find interested people to group up for ca. 2013-2015 content on asura or am i cooked?
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-09 19:22:18
Apex gargoiulles maybe assuming you can buff your acc/bring distract 3
Terror Eye is like a 30 second instant gaze/terror move, would be ultra annoying to fight these. Gross.
Which trial is this? Every single Demon-type monster is disgusting. The least annoying family are the Beastmen Demons. I would also suggest Limbus, as they're super easy, are tanky enough to get a good amount of ws off per mob, and they fulfill double duty with Apollyon Units, plus EP. That would be my place to go, though the 3-trust limit could be limiting, depending on your job.
Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-07-09 19:31:22
Any demons not in Abyssea good for doing trials?
Don't say locus imps. Locus Imps.
They don't do Tantaras until they pull the horn out under 20%, at which point you can just switch to real weapon and kill them.
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Valefor.Philemon
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By Valefor.Philemon 2025-07-09 19:33:11
If it's TP bonus sword, apex gargouille worked great. Assuming you're doing it on RDM.
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By Nariont 2025-07-09 20:12:09
Apex gargoiulles maybe assuming you can buff your acc/bring distract 3
Terror Eye is like a 30 second instant gaze/terror move, would be ultra annoying to fight these. Gross.
Which trial is this? Every single Demon-type monster is disgusting. The least annoying family are the Beastmen Demons. I would also suggest Limbus, as they're super easy, are tanky enough to get a good amount of ws off per mob, and they fulfill double duty with Apollyon Units, plus EP. That would be my place to go, though the 3-trust limit could be limiting, depending on your job.
Thats what aaev/vala/aahm are for, youre unlikely to pull hate fir a fair bit just spamming a maguc ws. Im assuming its sword trials and its what i did on rdm, just debuffed and put buffs on trusts and spammed. The more annoying part is when they fly but its not a huge deal
You can also just spam flat blade in your tp set. Generates more hate but it locks them down pretty well
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By Lingerie 2025-07-10 05:52:39
Will a Ghorn overwrite Miracle Cheer?
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By Bahamut.Noscrying 2025-07-10 06:05:11
Will a Ghorn overwrite Miracle Cheer? Misread.
Oldest song gets overwritten.
By K123 2025-07-10 06:09:48
No, you can never overwrite 15 minute songs.
By K123 2025-07-10 06:11:01
Apex gargoiulles maybe assuming you can buff your acc/bring distract 3
Terror Eye is like a 30 second instant gaze/terror move, would be ultra annoying to fight these. Gross.
Which trial is this? Every single Demon-type monster is disgusting. The least annoying family are the Beastmen Demons. I would also suggest Limbus, as they're super easy, are tanky enough to get a good amount of ws off per mob, and they fulfill double duty with Apollyon Units, plus EP. That would be my place to go, though the 3-trust limit could be limiting, depending on your job. I made TP bonus Katana finally. Disappointed so far since I can't get much attack on NIN so both SB and Chi are disappointing.
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-07-10 08:20:32
No, you can never overwrite 15 minute songs.
Not entirely true.
If you have 5 MC songs, Gjalla will, necessarily, overwrite one of them.
Also: if you cast the same song with gjalla, it will overwrite the MC version.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-10 08:44:46
Apex gargoiulles maybe assuming you can buff your acc/bring distract 3
Terror Eye is like a 30 second instant gaze/terror move, would be ultra annoying to fight these. Gross.
Which trial is this? Every single Demon-type monster is disgusting. The least annoying family are the Beastmen Demons. I would also suggest Limbus, as they're super easy, are tanky enough to get a good amount of ws off per mob, and they fulfill double duty with Apollyon Units, plus EP. That would be my place to go, though the 3-trust limit could be limiting, depending on your job. I made TP bonus Katana finally. Disappointed so far since I can't get much attack on NIN so both SB and Chi are disappointing.
Where are you using it? What buffs? Chi uses Kunimitsu for damage, not TP bonus offhand. Chi caps damage under the right circumstances, but they aren't ideal with trust buffs, and they perform weaker than Sam's jinpu would with trust buffs because SAM has Overwhelm merits and attack from Sylvie that Ninja doesn't get. With buffs, Savage is NIN's best WS with Hitaki, and completely naked it will do like ~8k damage than blade Ten. It should only feel disappointing unsupported.
By K123 2025-07-10 09:14:41
Locus Colibri (also means no food which doesn't help). Sylvie won't cast Fury because of NIN so I get Chaos Roll and maybe a Minuet here and there with both Ulmia and Joachim. Does Kunimitsu definitely beat Malignance offhand at weak attack like I have where the first hit will be weak anyway?
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-10 09:37:12
I have no idea what your attack is it what's better in that scenario. I've never used Hitaki for hybrids. Compare the damage and see.
Also, colibri take an extra 30% ice damage, so although blade: To is only 1 hit, might spike higher damage than Chi.
You can also summon Excenmille (S) for Stag's Call. He uses it at the moment you summon him and engage. +15% attack +15 MAB.
By K123 2025-07-10 09:54:40
He keeps that up permanently?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-10 10:07:50
3min duration, re-use is 5min. But I jut target him and dismiss, and use a macro to resummon him every 1-2 fights, so the buff is up indefinitely. You lose ~20 seconds recalling him, but the buff is nice to have Kind of the same thing I do with Qultada in some cases
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2025-07-10 10:19:37
Also, colibri take an extra 30% ice damage Ok, so. Colibri don't take an extra 30% Ice damage in general. They have a 130% Elemental resistance rank towards ice. In the case of Ice elemental skillchain damage, and only skillchain damage, this will equal +30% extra damage. But for any other source of ice elemental damage, it just affects the mob's meva, and possible guaranteed resist states.
Basically, the resist rank being above 100% applies a penalty to the mob's meva for that element. When the rank is below 100% it applies a multiplier to the mob's meva. At the 50% rank and below a half resist is guaranteed. At 10% magic hit rate is capped at 5%. And at 5% a full resist is guaranteed.
Some mobs can, and do, have directly increased elemental damage. (Perhaps, call it Elemental SDT?) Like Umbrils, which take double Fire, Light, and Earth damage. But if you look on the Umbril category page on BGwiki you'll see 130% fire, 150% Light, and 100% Earth. Because those listings are elemental resist ranks, and not dmg+ modifiers. Which is... admittedly a bit confusing since they're right below the damage type modifiers which very much are exactly that.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-10 10:34:09
This is very good details, Martel. Thanks for clarifying. I shouldn't have said "ice damage", I was in fact looking at their elemental resistances chart, which is how I always determine which elements to use vs which mobs.
This note slightly influenced my understanding of these charts:
Quote: 100% denotates that a monster takes full damage.
Tiers of 50% or less guarantee a spell resist.
I assumed if 100% = full damage, then >100% = "takes additional damage".
To your point, there's also nowhere on the Umbril page that lists hey take additional fire or light damage, where the chart seems to suggest they would (and just by experience).
So without pulling out Geriond's old spreadsheet index* of every single monster type and weakness/resistance, is there any way I can tell on BG wiki a monster's direct elemental weakness? I understand that "Resistance" <> "Weakness", but as you've mentioned, that chart literally shows damage type resistances (and weaknesses), though they don't explicitly tell the viewer they're looking at weaknesses.
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(You know what, i'll just default to this list from now on instead of the BG wiki values)
Ragnarok.Martel
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2025-07-10 10:49:32
These sort of direct element specific damage modifications are... pretty rare. I can only think of a handful of cases and they're all SoA mobs. Umbrils, as mentioned, Acuex(and Yecuex), and Matamata. A note on each category page would probably be good, though.
In fact.. that note about increased breath damage on the umbril page.. considering it references Blue magic 1k needlesIlight elemental) was probably because of the light dmg taken +. Actually... why would they even assume breath dmg taken+ from that? blue magic 1k needles is magic damage not breath... Hmmm. I could test actual breath dmg with Atonement or Spirits Within.. I'm betting it was just the elemental dmg+ at work though.
EDIT: Ok, nvm, lol. They definitely have a breath damage thing. Unless both Spirits Within and Atonement are actually light(or fire/earth) dmg and we just never knew. <,<
2 tests:
Aggro>flash with +0 enmity(180 CE) Atonement should have done 29(180/6-1). It did 58. Exactly double.
3k TP Spirits Within with 3002 HP. 6004 dmg. Exactly double. So.. yeah. Umbrils app ear to take +100% Breath dmg/(That or Atonement and Spirits within are actually Fire, light or earth dmg.)
EDIT2: A test with Poison breath did 346 dmg with 3007 and lvl 58 /blu. This is exactly the normal dmg for that HP and BLU level, however, Umbrils have a 50% water resist rank. So a half resist should be guaranteed. Which means that the damage was doubled by the breath damage mod first, then half resisted back down to normal. I'd have liked to have tested on a neutral element, but... They don't have any. lol.
Also tested with Radiant Breath. The formula for this one.. isn't quite working so I tested it on nearby bees which should take normal damage. 679 dmg with 3012 HP. Umbril took 1354. Which is a tiiiny bit off from being exactly double.(did I take dmg and not notice?)
The odd thing here is that if Umbril take breath dmg +100% AND Light dmg +100%, then we'd expect a x4 dmg value here. But we're getting about double. So... what' s going on? Non-elemental sources(I think) of breath damage like Atonement and Spirits Within did x2 dmg. And poison breath also should be doing x2 dmg, along with it's half resist putting it back at teh normal value. A neutral element to test would be nice... But it seems like it's only applying one boost other the other, even on things that should hit both. Maybe it's Breath dmg + 100% and then only Magic sources of fire/light/earth get a separate +100%?
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By Kaffy 2025-07-10 11:28:37
do colibri have mdb trait as rdm? I always assumed that was why no one ever wanted to bring blm to xp parties in toau days.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2025-07-10 11:43:50
Yep. They have +14 MDB. But really, at least for non-lesser colibri, it's that ppl didn't want the BLM stocking the colbris with Nukes(or enfeebles) to reflect. And BLM parties just went to Flan anyway.
By K123 2025-07-10 12:35:47
Ironically Kunmitsu is the most powerful katana I have on that character so I'm out of luck for anything to chi with unless I make ambu or aeonic
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