Ranger Or Corsair Wanted More In Voidwatch?
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Ranger or Corsair wanted more in Voidwatch?
I want to start leveling a ranged attacker for voidwatch. Mages are out so it's down to Ranger or Corsair. Which one would you guys think would have an easier time getting in to voidwatch events?
One topic would have been enough man. Don't need to make 3 identical ones. I see more shouts looking for CORs, so I feel like that it would be safe to assume the supply:demand ratio for CORs would lean more in your favor.
Seeing as how it has been a few weeks since a last post in voidwatch, and the rng and cor forums have only a handful every week, it is completely safe to assume that in order to get more than 1-2 responses i should use multiple avenues to gain a decent opinion base for my question.
For physical damage output, RNG is well above COR. But if it's magical, WF COR can get more from his own buff than WF RNG. Fights like Kalasutrax and Botulus Rex are the examples where physical damage goes crap.
Fitali said: » Seeing as how it has been a few weeks since a last post in voidwatch, and the rng and cor forums have only a handful every week, it is completely safe to assume that in order to get more than 1-2 responses i should use multiple avenues to gain a decent opinion base for my question.
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: » Fitali said: » Seeing as how it has been a few weeks since a last post in voidwatch, and the rng and cor forums have only a handful every week, it is completely safe to assume that in order to get more than 1-2 responses i should use multiple avenues to gain a decent opinion base for my question. Fitali said: » I want to start leveling a ranged attacker for voidwatch. Mages are out so it's down to Ranger or Corsair. Which one would you guys think would have an easier time getting in to voidwatch events? IMO COR is more demanding, but if you only want to lv a job to "get invite in X event", you may as well not to do it. COR is obviously gonna be more demanding, those buffs are always wanted in VW, but not only that it can do decent dmg. Pretty silly question if you ask me, I mean if you had any Voidwatch experience you'd easily know.
Anyway: COR for powerful party buffs/ decent dmg RNG for more procs, and in most cases, "most!", better damage. Ragnarok.Afania said: » Fitali said: » I want to start leveling a ranged attacker for voidwatch. Mages are out so it's down to Ranger or Corsair. Which one would you guys think would have an easier time getting in to voidwatch events? IMO COR is more demanding, but if you only want to lv a job to "get invite in X event", you may as well not to do it. So... with your outlook on things... During abyssea days if someone's favorite job was say RDM, a job that is damn near completely un-needed in abyssea, you're advice would be to just suck it up play rdm? Ultimately leading them to very very slowly get gear. Am I correct in assuming this is your outlook? While that would be outstanding in a perfect world, my favorite jobs are Bst and Thf, who after much to my chagrin are not easily to get invites to voidwatch events, which i would like to get involved in. Go with COR then. It's definitely useful in term of PT buff.
I almost always see a COR in VW alliance, but not always for RNG; Although I've been called to go RNG recently on VW. In term of proc completeness : RNG has full range of Archery and Marks proc, while COR still missing Heavy Shot and Blast Shot for the proc. RNG also have some of the axe proc, But procing axe is most likely to be WAR's job. Fitali said: » So... with your outlook on things... During abyssea days if someone's favorite job was say RDM, a job that is damn near completely un-needed in abyssea, you're advice would be to just suck it up play rdm? Ultimately leading them to very very slowly get gear. Am I correct in assuming this is your outlook? While that would be outstanding in a perfect world, my favorite jobs are Bst and Thf, who after much to my chagrin are not easily to get invites to voidwatch events, which i would like to get involved in. RDM is different issue. Both RNG and COR fits in VW pt setup, while RDM doesn't fit in Abyssea setup. Let's say COR is more demanding, but doesn't mean your RNG will never get invited. The issue I see on RNG is, a lot of players don't view RNG as a DD job, thus if someone already on RNG in pt many leader won't get 2nd one. However if your RNG is very very good I don't see the reason not to get 2nd RNG. COR is probably easier if you just want a get the invite job though, you just need to roll and still somewhat contributed. PewPew...
like everyone else has said Cor. especially if you can get wildfire access. kinda off topic but i didnt want to start my own thread, but since i use my Cor for VW atm i was curious. i need to merit a third WS and didnt know if dagger ws did a lot more for non emp/relic Thf compared to last stand for a WF Cor. im just stuck on which i should merit. =/ been procrastinating for a week now lol (if there is a link that might help let me know) Leviathan.Phenomena said: » PewPew... like everyone else has said Cor. just be sure to get wildfire access. ftfy RNG can use armageddon just as well, if not better than a COR. I'm not sure why I always see people saying that COR does better damage with it. Maybe people forget, but COR rolls are AoE, and there's nothing to stop the RNG from receiving the exact same buffs as a COR, and the exact same benefits from QD.
We were just doing Rex yesterday with 2 CORs and 1 RNG (me). We were all using wildfire, and it was grand old time. I'm not sure why people automatically assume that RNG is physical damage and COR is magical. A good RNG will have access to both types of damage.
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wait wtf there's two
Deleted the thread in Ranger.
Locked the thread in Corsair. Do NOT create multiple threads for the same thing. EVER. I'd guess people think cor WF does more becouse COR has access to more MAB gear? I dont play the job much, correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes they do but not by much. but also another reason is that they can sub blm and get away with it lol.
RNG can go /BLM /RDM /BLU just as easily as COR lol. What other SJ would you use for fighting Rex?
Also COR does NOT have access to better WF gear. In fact, RNG does. Sylvan feet have AGI +15, Seiryu's kote has way more AGI than anything COR can use, there is a back piece called Tjukurrpa Mantle that only RNG can use (Agi +4, magic attack +4). The rest of the gear is exactly the same as what a COR would use. Thus, RNG's WF is in fact more powerful than a COR's. Bismarck.Helel said: » RNG can go /BLM /RDM /BLU just as easily as COR lol. What other SJ would you use for fighting Rex? Also COR does NOT have access to better WF gear. In fact, RNG does. Sylvan feet have AGI +15, Seiryu's kote has way more AGI than anything COR can use, there is a back piece called Tjukurrpa Mantle that only RNG can use (Agi +4, magic attack +4). The rest of the gear is exactly the same as what a COR would use. Thus, RNG's WF is in fact more powerful than a COR's. The thing that's going to pull COR's WF ahead is their ability to control what buffs they have and whether or not they get the Fire Shot bonus.
So, Ideally, RNG can pull off a stronger Wildfire. In practice, COR will get more out of it. Bismarck.Markas said: » Bismarck.Helel said: » RNG can go /BLM /RDM /BLU just as easily as COR lol. What other SJ would you use for fighting Rex? Also COR does NOT have access to better WF gear. In fact, RNG does. Sylvan feet have AGI +15, Seiryu's kote has way more AGI than anything COR can use, there is a back piece called Tjukurrpa Mantle that only RNG can use (Agi +4, magic attack +4). The rest of the gear is exactly the same as what a COR would use. Thus, RNG's WF is in fact more powerful than a COR's. Under the assumption both COR and RNG in the same PT and both received the same roll effect, and attacking a mob under the same debuff effect (fire shot), shouldn't it gives a better confidence who will pull ahead? Asura.Vrytreya said: » Bismarck.Markas said: » Bismarck.Helel said: » RNG can go /BLM /RDM /BLU just as easily as COR lol. What other SJ would you use for fighting Rex? Also COR does NOT have access to better WF gear. In fact, RNG does. Sylvan feet have AGI +15, Seiryu's kote has way more AGI than anything COR can use, there is a back piece called Tjukurrpa Mantle that only RNG can use (Agi +4, magic attack +4). The rest of the gear is exactly the same as what a COR would use. Thus, RNG's WF is in fact more powerful than a COR's. Under the assumption both COR and RNG in the same PT and both received the same roll effect, and attacking a mob under the same debuff effect (fire shot), shouldn't it gives a better confidence who will pull ahead? Bismarck.Markas said: » parse data Quote: EXACTLY If you want to know exactly, then you want to see the math, not the parse.
Bismarck.Helel said: » RNG can go /BLM /RDM /BLU just as easily as COR lol. What other SJ would you use for fighting Rex? Also COR does NOT have access to better WF gear. In fact, RNG does. Sylvan feet have AGI +15, Seiryu's kote has way more AGI than anything COR can use, there is a back piece called Tjukurrpa Mantle that only RNG can use (Agi +4, magic attack +4). The rest of the gear is exactly the same as what a COR would use. Thus, RNG's WF is in fact more powerful than a COR's. You seem to be forgetting that cors af3+2 feet have agi+10 and the enhances quick draw adds 20% damage to WF after a fire shot making Cors WF do a lot more than a Rngs. Odin.Creaucent said: » Bismarck.Helel said: » RNG can go /BLM /RDM /BLU just as easily as COR lol. What other SJ would you use for fighting Rex? Also COR does NOT have access to better WF gear. In fact, RNG does. Sylvan feet have AGI +15, Seiryu's kote has way more AGI than anything COR can use, there is a back piece called Tjukurrpa Mantle that only RNG can use (Agi +4, magic attack +4). The rest of the gear is exactly the same as what a COR would use. Thus, RNG's WF is in fact more powerful than a COR's. You seem to be forgetting that cors af3+2 feet have agi+10 and the enhances quick draw adds 20% damage to WF after a fire shot making Cors WF do a lot more than a Rngs. 13AGI. also its 20% for 15 seconds. a rng will most likely hit in that window as well RNG gets the benefit of the COR's fire shot, too.
Bismarck.Sylow said: » The thing that's going to pull COR's WF ahead is their ability to control what buffs they have and whether or not they get the Fire Shot bonus. So, Ideally, RNG can pull off a stronger Wildfire. In practice, COR will get more out of it. That's what I meant when I said that ^ Wouldnt RNG get more out of Last Stand than WF with Arma? Considering RNG has access to much better ammo and agi/str gear. Somewhat off topic.
The situations when RNG would be using Wildfire over Last Stand are situations where enemies resist Piercing/Physical damage and/or are particularly susceptible to magic damage.
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