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 Asura.Daleterrence
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2012-02-14 08:07:22
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Who the hell uses a mouse for FFXI? Like, really? PC or otherwise. You can do everything on a keyboard. Literally everything, it's not like WoW or most MMOs these days where you need a mouse.
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By Gilgamesh.Hunewearl 2012-02-14 08:10:24
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Sylph.Kimble said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
The mouse is hated by majority of players for a huge reason, it isn't sensitive enough. Unlike the analog sticks of controllers, if you want to move your character you are constricted to set degrees which is not pleasant.

It is better than trying to control the camera with a keyboard though, so I can't really say a mouse is worse than a keyboard. I simply can not understand why it is so strict though, to me it seems like it should be exactly the same as an analog stick, where if I want to move 5 degrees to the right I should be able to, not 45 degrees.

It is a personal preference, and everyone has their own opinion, but I'd be very impressed with anyone capable of using the mouse and perform just as well as someone using a controller, or keyboard.

Still don't see how it takes 90 minutes to fix though.

Every update always takes at least 90 minutes. Most likely has to do with powering down and powering up the servers.
^pretty much.

It's also a buffer they give themselves, sometime they are done rebooting servers sooner than announced and make the game available right away, sometime not.

Some people are really dense in this thread.

As for performing correctly with a mouse, well, I have seen a certain player play with a mouse and I can say that he destroys about 99% of the playerbase in term of accuracy, speed and overall quality in his gameplay, he's known for that anyway. You need to be less narrow minded, especially when you are kinda average yourself.

I'm a keyboard guy but honestly, I wouldn't bash a mouse, gamepad is way worse objectively speaking yet, it doesn't mean anything.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2012-02-14 08:35:11
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was this maint now or not? only posted pst time....
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By Lakshmi.Aanalaty 2012-02-14 08:48:06
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Gilgamesh.Hunewearl said: »
I'm a keyboard guy but honestly, I wouldn't bash a mouse, gamepad is way worse objectively speaking yet, it doesn't mean anything.

Pssh. Speak for yourself! Dual box with 2xGamepad ftw! iRock :)
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2012-02-14 09:02:47
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Apparently they broke Tidal Talisman too! WOOOOOOO. Heard it does like when you try to nexus to an area you cant, charges to 10% then stops. Even from both Aht Urhgan and Al Zahbi (im sure they didnt try any other areas).
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By Shiva.Solidyuna 2012-02-14 09:13:32
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:x i think its more then that cause i'm randomly dc'ing today for no reason. My net is fine o0 apparenly SE isn't .. but when are they ever -.-;
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By kenshynofshiva 2012-02-14 09:47:54
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Playing since NA release with a mouse and damn it they better fix this ***. F a keyboard that ***for macros only lol.
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By Cerberus.Weissberv 2012-02-14 10:34:38
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My way of playing:

Keyboard numpad for movement, autorun, mob selecting and walk/run toggle. Macros and chat (obviously).
Mouse for camera control as well as targetting big mobs.


Is this issue just for controlling your character or does it effect camera controls too? I haven't bothered to log in yet.
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By Valefor.Fmaxgluttony 2012-02-14 10:46:20
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Quote:
- An issue wherein a character cannot be controlled using the mouse.
(PlayStation 2 and Windows)


I can understand PC players but why are ps2 players getting a maint for the mouse Oo.
 
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By Valefor.Fmaxgluttony 2012-02-14 10:49:07
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Really? time to get a mouse and try updating my ffxi on ps2!
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By Shiva.Karmessurma 2012-02-14 10:52:15
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To preserve the balance of mouse users in this game, we will be disabling random client's keyboards.

Thank you for your cooperation in this manner.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-02-14 11:05:58
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Shiva.Karmessurma said: »
To preserve the balance of mouse users in this game, we will be disabling random client's keyboards.

Thank you for your cooperation in this manner.
what is a keyboard?
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By Bismarck.Recaldy 2012-02-14 11:06:22
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WASD + IJKL w/ Compact Keyboard > Mouse.
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By Phoenix.Salmijr 2012-02-14 11:07:36
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Like has been mentioned, mouse input is client side. I'm sure they are patching some major bug. Maybe NeoNyzul bosses weren't supposed to double drop, etc.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-02-14 11:08:58
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Bismarck.Recaldy said: »
WASD + IJKL w/ Compact Keyboard > Mouse.
>all
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By Asura.Akamatzu 2012-02-14 11:10:09
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I thought it was very common for someone to play FFXI with the mouse?
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 Bismarck.Recaldy
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By Bismarck.Recaldy 2012-02-14 11:10:14
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Bismarck.Recaldy said: »
WASD + IJKL w/ Compact Keyboard > Mouse.
>all
I used to use one but mine would put my character on auto run and wouldn't stop until I unplugged the controller so I stopped using it.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-14 11:16:47
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Bismarck.Recaldy said: »
WASD + IJKL w/ Compact Keyboard > Mouse.

what?

nvm, who uses a compact keyboard?
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-14 11:20:48
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Lakshmi.Aanalaty said: »
Gilgamesh.Hunewearl said: »
I'm a keyboard guy but honestly, I wouldn't bash a mouse, gamepad is way worse objectively speaking yet, it doesn't mean anything.

Pssh. Speak for yourself! Dual box with 2xGamepad ftw! iRock :)

indeed, the controller gives a more accurate movement control (imo, I'm sure you could probably adjust the settings on the keyboard but meh)

I didn't like the tor climb on a gamepad I'd hate to try it keyboard onry.
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By missdivine 2012-02-14 11:25:32
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do you know how hard is moving the camera + running/using macros at the same time with a keyboard? just no no no no no no no
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-14 11:27:34
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Odin.Elmodfz said: »
I don't know how people use a mouse/keyboard combination for gaming. Not just this game but all other PC games, I just can't deal with it. Obviously we have to use a keyboard for typing (inB4 smart arse comments) but moving etc is horrible!

Controllers are they way forward, I use my 360 for FFXI but I have a wired pad for my PC.

Has anyone else noticed on the select character screen, the gold ends that are on the name labels of your characters have gone really 64bit and blocky? I wonder if that will be fixed because it never used to look like that before the update.

you have your technology terms confused
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By Asura.Calatilla 2012-02-14 11:27:56
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Lakshmi.Aanalaty said: »
Gilgamesh.Hunewearl said: »
I'm a keyboard guy but honestly, I wouldn't bash a mouse, gamepad is way worse objectively speaking yet, it doesn't mean anything.

Pssh. Speak for yourself! Dual box with 2xGamepad ftw! iRock :)

indeed, the controller gives a more accurate movement control (imo, I'm sure you could probably adjust the settings on the keyboard but meh)

I didn't like the tor climb on a gamepad I'd hate to try it keyboard onry.

Ive used both, personally prefer keyboard. Imagine tor climb using only a mouse >.>
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-14 11:28:58
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Asura.Calatilla said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Lakshmi.Aanalaty said: »
Gilgamesh.Hunewearl said: »
I'm a keyboard guy but honestly, I wouldn't bash a mouse, gamepad is way worse objectively speaking yet, it doesn't mean anything.

Pssh. Speak for yourself! Dual box with 2xGamepad ftw! iRock :)

indeed, the controller gives a more accurate movement control (imo, I'm sure you could probably adjust the settings on the keyboard but meh)

I didn't like the tor climb on a gamepad I'd hate to try it keyboard onry.

Ive used both, personally prefer keyboard. Imagine tor climb using only a mouse >.>

easy

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By Schwertzauberer 2012-02-14 11:29:05
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The mouse is the best kept secret in FFXI. All those times you got out-claimed... it wasn't bots! It was the mouse users who simply had to click on the NM rather than tabbing through the NQ mob spam to get to it. :D:D:D:D

Seriously though, it's the only time I use my mouse in the game. So much better than tabbing through a million squibs while trying to target Heqet.
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By Sylph.Rebo 2012-02-14 11:29:59
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missdivine said: »


do you know how hard is moving the camera + running/using macros at the same time with a keyboard? just no no no no no no no

It's quite easy actually, Keyboard imo is best way to play, shortcuts and macros are so much faster than scrolling, although you can still scroll if you would like from a keyboard, it's still much better with control options.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-14 11:31:42
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Schwertzauberer said: »
The mouse is the best kept secret in FFXI. All those times you got out-claimed... it wasn't bots! It was the mouse users who simply had to click on the NM rather than tabbing through the NQ mob spam to get to it. :D:D:D:D

Seriously though, it's the only time I use my mouse in the game. So much better than tabbing through a million squibs while trying to target Heqet.
use a controller and you don't have to do this, you were doing it wrong.

edit: you still don't do it that way with keyboard onry...
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By Lucried 2012-02-14 11:33:30
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I like how this has been on the test server for a little while now and they just now notice such a problem after implementing it.