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(Feb. 14) All Worlds Emergency Maintenance
 Sylph.Kimble
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-14 04:46:21
The mouse is hated by majority of players for a huge reason, it isn't sensitive enough. Unlike the analog sticks of controllers, if you want to move your character you are constricted to set degrees which is not pleasant.
It is better than trying to control the camera with a keyboard though, so I can't really say a mouse is worse than a keyboard. I simply can not understand why it is so strict though, to me it seems like it should be exactly the same as an analog stick, where if I want to move 5 degrees to the right I should be able to, not 45 degrees.
It is a personal preference, and everyone has their own opinion, but I'd be very impressed with anyone capable of using the mouse and perform just as well as someone using a controller, or keyboard.
Still don't see how it takes 90 minutes to fix though.
Every update always takes at least 90 minutes. Most likely has to do with powering down and powering up the servers.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-14 04:49:00
The mouse is hated by majority of players for a huge reason, it isn't sensitive enough. Unlike the analog sticks of controllers, if you want to move your character you are constricted to set degrees which is not pleasant.
It is better than trying to control the camera with a keyboard though, so I can't really say a mouse is worse than a keyboard. I simply can not understand why it is so strict though, to me it seems like it should be exactly the same as an analog stick, where if I want to move 5 degrees to the right I should be able to, not 45 degrees.
It is a personal preference, and everyone has their own opinion, but I'd be very impressed with anyone capable of using the mouse and perform just as well as someone using a controller, or keyboard.
Still don't see how it takes 90 minutes to fix though.
Every update always takes at least 90 minutes. Most likely has to do with powering down and powering up the servers. The mouse is client side, not server.
Valefor.Artemys
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By Valefor.Artemys 2012-02-14 04:49:53
Haven't played much lately, due to Star Wars: The Old Republic, first thing I did when I logged on was try to move using WASD and control the camera with the mouse, instant WTF moment and realization of just how bad using those in FFXI is. . .
 Asura.Fondue
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-02-14 04:51:22
someone who posts on official forums needs to tell them that bhaflau remnants is broken too
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-14 04:52:13
someone who posts on official forums needs to tell them that bhaflau remnants is broken too What is broken about it?
Sylph.Kimble
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-14 04:52:59
The mouse is hated by majority of players for a huge reason, it isn't sensitive enough. Unlike the analog sticks of controllers, if you want to move your character you are constricted to set degrees which is not pleasant.
It is better than trying to control the camera with a keyboard though, so I can't really say a mouse is worse than a keyboard. I simply can not understand why it is so strict though, to me it seems like it should be exactly the same as an analog stick, where if I want to move 5 degrees to the right I should be able to, not 45 degrees.
It is a personal preference, and everyone has their own opinion, but I'd be very impressed with anyone capable of using the mouse and perform just as well as someone using a controller, or keyboard.
Still don't see how it takes 90 minutes to fix though.
Every update always takes at least 90 minutes. Most likely has to do with powering down and powering up the servers. The mouse is client side, not server.
This is also SE we are talking about here. They probably still take the servers down. And there is most likely other tweaks they need to do, like always.
Sylph.Kimble
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-14 04:53:32
someone who posts on official forums needs to tell them that bhaflau remnants is broken too
Was it ever working? ;p
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-14 04:55:12
someone who posts on official forums needs to tell them that bhaflau remnants is broken too
Was it ever working? ;p Just thinking something broke broke, like cells are completely broken.
 Lakshmi.Aequis
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By Lakshmi.Aequis 2012-02-14 04:57:48
Something's not working properly, so they're fixing it. I don't see the problem.
There could be something else that isn't "working as intended" or such. I noticed that if you have damage numbers displayed on screen, they appear in a really big font size - bigger than some of the mobs you're actually damaging more often than not. Could be that or some other stuff.
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Asura.Fondue
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-02-14 04:58:23
they need to put out some kind of triggers for *** nm pops, getting depressing ,_,
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-14 04:58:26
But yea, this can't be for the mouse. It would just be one of those non urgent updates that you can still play the game but when you log out you have to install it before you log back in.
This has something more to do with something breaking, but they probably aren't talking about it because it might be taken advantage of? Or just the general attitude "they don't work here why do they need to know?".
Cerberus.Thongypoo
Server: Cerberus
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By Cerberus.Thongypoo 2012-02-14 04:58:37
The mouse is hated by majority of players for a huge reason, it isn't sensitive enough. Unlike the analog sticks of controllers, if you want to move your character you are limited to set degrees which is not pleasant.
It is better than trying to control the camera with a keyboard though, so I can't really say a mouse is worse than a keyboard. I simply can not understand why it is so strict though, to me it seems like it should be exactly the same as an analog stick, where if I want to move 5 degrees to the right I should be able to, not 45 degrees.
It is a personal preference, and everyone has their own opinion, but I'd be very impressed with anyone capable of using the mouse and perform just as well as someone using a controller, or keyboard.
Still don't see how it takes 90 minutes to fix though.
Not to sound cocky but watch me play. You'd have no idea I used my touch pad and not a controller. On a side note I'm sure they are fixing something else too.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-02-14 05:00:15
Probably the thing that if you port up in nyzul while slept you get left behind on the floor and can take the whole group up again.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-14 05:02:23
Touch pad... ugh I'd rather just quit. No offense >.>; but I've quit exp parties back in the day because my controller stopped working.
That, and I just hate EXP'ing so it was a welcomed disappointment for me lol >.>;
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-14 05:03:29
Probably the thing that if you port up in nyzul while slept you get left behind on the floor and can take the whole group up again. So someone's mule could use a sleeping potion, get left behind, and if the random floor they picked sucks they can have the mule wake up and change it?
Sylph.Kimble
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-14 05:03:44
At any rate, something is broke, and they fixing it, not really sure why people are shocked, they always do this after an update.
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Cerberus.Thongypoo
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By Cerberus.Thongypoo 2012-02-14 05:04:25
Touch pad... ugh I'd rather just quit. No offense >.>; but I've quit exp parties back in the day because my controller stopped working.
That, and I just hate EXP'ing so it was a welcome disappointment for me lol >.>;
Its ok I hissy fitted about the touch pad being broken because controller/wasd pisses me off way too much and I suck. I did salvage with friends on sam I couldn't target or engage fast. It was beyond frustrating lol. Also agreed on old exp parties. "OH STORM COMING IN GUYS OH NOOOO TORNADO!!!!!!" /dcs.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-14 05:04:56
At any rate, something is broke, and they fixing it, not really sure why people are shocked, they always do this after an update. Wasn't really shock, for me I was just curious. It couldn't possibly be for the mouse yet I haven't heard anything else about something being wrong (until Sawtelle mentioned nyzul).
Sylph.Kimble
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-14 05:07:37
Well, an input device isn't working, its kind of a big deal.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-02-14 05:08:18
Starting rumors cause I have nothing else to do :/ I gave up trying to play w/o my mouse.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-14 05:14:00
Starting rumors cause I have nothing else to do :/ I gave up trying to play w/o my mouse. You fooled me :x
Seemed like a perfectly logical reason as to why they would do an emergency maintenance honestly.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-02-14 05:17:28
I didn't want to fool you! I wanted to fool other people, but ya, I thought it sounded possible+ exploitable enough to require a fast fix! Those make the best rumors.
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Fenrir.Jarrin
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 83
By Fenrir.Jarrin 2012-02-14 05:22:48
Quote: I love how the stuff they break is usually better than the stuff they implement. The game functions better without having to worry about my character running off in random directions because I closed a window.
mouse_blockinput 1
type that in you init.txt page and never worry about the mouse again.
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Cerberus.Halticus
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 257
By Cerberus.Halticus 2012-02-14 06:07:32
I don't have a problem with this Maintenance...Now if they could only fix this logout button issue so I dont forget my friends, family, work, and school. >.>
Server: Odin
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By Odin.Elmodfz 2012-02-14 06:15:07
I don't know how people use a mouse/keyboard combination for gaming. Not just this game but all other PC games, I just can't deal with it. Obviously we have to use a keyboard for typing (inB4 smart arse comments) but moving etc is horrible!
Controllers are they way forward, I use my 360 for FFXI but I have a wired pad for my PC.
Has anyone else noticed on the select character screen, the gold ends that are on the name labels of your characters have gone really 64bit and blocky? I wonder if that will be fixed because it never used to look like that before the update.
By Quiznor 2012-02-14 06:24:25
this is the new "ps2 limitations"
"mouse limitations?"
Carbuncle.Kerokun
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By Carbuncle.Kerokun 2012-02-14 07:07:25
A guy in my LS uses a mouse; you guys are just haters. D:
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-02-14 07:25:45
Lol maint how typical
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2012-02-14 08:05:15
Just think...
If a normal update is 2 hours, and it takes them 90 minutes to fix a mouse issue, they're adding 30 minutes of content per update, and avoiding mouse issues for the other hour and a half of downtime.
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| | | | | | | Feb. 14, 2012 00:30 [PST] From: FINAL FANTASY XI |  | | All Worlds Emergency Maintenance (Feb. 14) | | |  | | | At the following time, we will be performing emergency maintenance on FINAL FANTASY XI. During this period, FINAL FANTASY XI will be unavailable.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.
[Date & Time]
Feb. 14, 2012 from 9:00 to 10:30 (PST)
* The completion time may be subject to change.
[Affected Service]
FINAL FANTASY XI
* The FINAL FANTASY XI client will be automatically updated (The client will not be updated for the Xbox 360). After the date and times listed above, pressing the "Play" button and following the on-screen instructions will begin the update.
* The World Transfer Service will be unavailable starting 30 minutes before the maintenance. Please wait until after the maintenance is completed before attempting to use this service.
* Maintenance operations will delete any reservations for Pankration matches and Maze Tabulae registered to NPC Duplidoc for Moblin Maze Mongers. To those players who are scheduled to participate in Pankration matches, those who will enter Assault, Salvage or Einherjar areas, or those who will participate in Dynamis or Limbus at the time of the maintenance, we ask that you please wait until maintenance is complete before engaging in these activities. Please note that we cannot replace items that are lost during the maintenance process. | | | | | | Begins:
Feb. 14, 2012 9:00 PST
Ends:
Feb. 14, 2012 10:30 PST |
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| | | | | | | Feb. 13, 2012 20:30 [PST] From: FINAL FANTASY XI | | | Current Known Issues with the Version Update (Feb. 13) | | | | | We have identified the following issue after the version update that took place on Feb. 13, 2012.
- An issue wherein a character cannot be controlled using the mouse.
(PlayStation 2 and Windows)
We are currently in the process of testing fixes to address this issue.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.
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| | | | | | | Feb. 14, 2012 10:30 [PST] From: FINAL FANTASY XI | | | FINAL FANTASY XI Version Update (Feb. 14) | | | | | At the following time, a version update was performed on FINAL FANTASY XI.
* Clients will update automatically upon launch after release of the patch. (The client will not be updated for the Xbox 360)
[Date & Time]
Feb. 14, 2012 at 10:30 (PST)
[Affected Service]
- FINAL FANTASY XI
[Update Details]
The following issues have been addressed:
- An issue wherein a character cannot be controlled using the mouse.
(PlayStation 2 and Windows)
- An issue wherein the Tidal Talisman cannot be used in the following areas:
Aht Urhgan Whitegate / Nashmau / Ru’Lude Gardens / Upper Jeuno / Lower Jeuno / Port Jeuno | | | | |
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