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                     Asura.Bombs
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Bombs 2012-02-07 12:59:44			
			
						
                     
                 ok so heres the wonderful story that the hard working SE people have done to me this week.
 When trying to log and saying that i couln't and after calling the helpless line to SE telling me that i have been selling gil for money (lol) i think i have to have gil in order to even sell it...
 
 but after talking to the new working at the SE HQ in india they told me that i had too much gil flow within the last week... so apparently you are now suppost to play the game without trading,bazzaring or using the AH... GJ SE heaven forbid you guys do any real work at your job...
 
 then the noob from SE tells my i had a large amount of gil recived in a short amount a time so think back i played the casino (aka Casinoo from those on the asura server known) and won over 18m gil...) winning that much apparently qualifies you as an RMT so for everyone that plays the casino "run away" you get banned for no reason when trying to have fun...
 
 on another note these wonder workers at the SE HQ are the same people in-game known as GM's (aka dont do anything)
 
            
                
                     Bismarck.Sylow
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-07 13:02:20			
			
						
                     
                 "An issue was found where players were too good at the game, so we banned them."                                             
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Bluespoons 2012-02-07 13:03:21			
			
						
                     
                 It's because you keep getting all the good VW drops, damn it. They will be after Hyd next!                                     
            
                
                     Asura.Bombs
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Bombs 2012-02-07 13:05:26			
			
						
                     
                 yeah hyden with his 1/1 drops evertime they should look in to that lol                                     
            
                
                     Fenrir.Kelyn
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Fenrir.Kelyn 2012-02-07 13:05:29			
			
						
                     
                 
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                     Leviathan.Chaosx
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Leviathan Game: FFXI Posts: 20284 
                
			
			By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-02-07 13:05:53			
			
						
                     
                 So what were to happen if you won the Bonanza and spent that ~81mil or w/e the prize?  Banned for burning through gil you won?!                                             
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			By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-02-07 13:09:14			
			
						
                     
                 You were banned for being a terrible gimp and getting a coruscanti.                                             
            
                
                     Siren.Stunx
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Siren.Stunx 2012-02-07 13:10:00			
			
						
                     
                 SE been pissing me off lately too, those stupid clock puzzles in 13-2 are so annoying                                             
            
            
                            
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                                Server: Sylph Game: FFXI Posts: 1549 
                
			
			By Sylph.Liltrouble 2012-02-07 13:18:28			
			
						
                     
                 SE may have their pitfalls, but identifying RMT's isn't one of them. I'm not buying into the "casino" excuse. SE has an elaborate means of identifying RMT's. It's a 90 day thing, if I remember correctly. If a character does something that causes it to get flagged, it's monitored with a microscope for 90 days, then it may or may not get banned. I don't remember exactly what the character has to do to raise a flag, nor do I remember what the 90 day microscope investigation entails, but yeah, the casino excuse doesn't wash                                             
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Xenophire 2012-02-07 13:21:53			
			
						
                     
                 http://nyusuke.com/game/ff13/ff13-2puzzle.htmlSE been pissing me off lately too, those stupid clock puzzles in 13-2 are so annoying
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                     Carbuncle.Kunisama
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Carbuncle Game: FFXI Posts: 389 
                
			
			By Carbuncle.Kunisama 2012-02-07 13:23:03			
			
						
                     
                 SE may have their pitfalls, but identifying RMT's isn't one of them.
It most definately is one of their pitfalls. You don't remember the mass bannings for people gardening too much?                                             
            
            
                
			
			By Latifah 2012-02-07 13:23:20			
			
						
                     
                 fishy.. i know some people that always carry 40-110m+ gil and never got banned                                     
            
                
                     Ramuh.Krizz
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Ramuh.Krizz 2012-02-07 13:25:20			
			
						
                     
                 Changed thread title.                                     
            
                
                     Bismarck.Markas
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Bismarck.Markas 2012-02-07 13:25:33			
			
						
                     
                 @op. i believe everything you say and im sorry for your plight.    
if you won said gil from a "casino" (which is unheard of, i mean come on) then do you have any proof? 
            
                
                     Bahamut.Jetackuu
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Bahamut Game: FFXI Posts: 9001 
                
			
			By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-07 13:26:06			
			
						
                     
                 it's funny, I've randomly recieved large amounts of gil for no reason, even logged in before with more gil than I logged out and nothing.
 I don't get it.
 
            
                
                     Cerberus.Taint
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Cerberus.Taint 2012-02-07 13:28:01			
			
						
                     
                 fishy.. i know some people that always carry 40-110m+ gil and never got banned
Its the flow not the amount, lots of people got banned on Feb3rd for BS reasons.  One was my friend with 700mil on him and I promise you he wasnt RMTing.                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Sylph.Liltrouble 2012-02-07 13:28:42			
			
						
                     
                 Carbuncle.Kunisama said: »SE may have their pitfalls, but identifying RMT's isn't one of them.
It most definately is one of their pitfalls. You don't remember the mass bannings for people gardening too much?Oh, but I DO remember them. And they were selling the gil. It was even published somewhere how they were identified. However , in any investigation, I am sure that some innocents MAY have gotten caught up in it. But I doubt it.                                             
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                     Bismarck.Markas
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Bismarck.Markas 2012-02-07 13:30:16			
			
						
                     
                 it's funny, I've randomly recieved large amounts of gil for no reason, even logged in before with more gil than I logged out and nothing.
 I don't get it.
its as liltrouble said, a character would have to exhibit certain behaviors in order for the banhammer to come down.  that or someone put in an anonymous tip, believe a friend got banned for no more than that once but who knows.                                             
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			By Asura.Xenophire 2012-02-07 13:30:27			
			
						
                     
                 @op. i believe everything you say and im sorry for your plight.   
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			By Asura.Karbuncle 2012-02-07 13:31:40			
			
						
                     
                 Should really b*tch about this on the official forums. Flood the place they actually have to read :D                                     
            
                
                     Carbuncle.Kunisama
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Carbuncle.Kunisama 2012-02-07 13:34:20			
			
						
                     
                 SE use a bot, called the banbot V1.3.3.7 or something ridiculous. They set conditions for it, and bans people who break them. That is what happened with the gardening. Was nothing to do with seeing them selling gil or anything, was simply because they did too much gardening.                                             
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Sylph.Liltrouble 2012-02-07 13:35:07			
			
						
                     
                 I really don't think people understand. You don't just get banned for a flag. The people that were banned the beginning of this month were under investigation for at least 90 days. The OP of this thread had been under investigation. Even people who had a GM called on them for RMT aren't instabanned. They're FLAGGED  They're placed under investigation. Cry fowl all you want. I'm not convinced.                                             
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Izilder 2012-02-07 13:35:18			
			
						
                     
                 Carbuncle.Kunisama said: »SE may have their pitfalls, but identifying RMT's isn't one of them.
It most definately is one of their pitfalls. You don't remember the mass bannings for people gardening too much?
Oh, but I DO remember them. And SOME were selling the gil. It was even published somewhere how they were identified. However , in any investigation, I am sure that innocents WERE caught up in it. But I dont really know or care.
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edit * iirc its a 3rd party bot SE bought that looks at EVERY gil and and tracks it - conditions are in place for red flags / bans, and i would doubt a human even looks at the log reports.                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Bluespoons 2012-02-07 13:36:29			
			
						
                     
                 I don't think Bombs had even been back to the game for 90 days. Bombs, wtf at least wait a few months before you start selling gil!                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Sylph.Liltrouble 2012-02-07 13:36:59			
			
						
                     
                 Carbuncle.Kunisama said: »SE may have their pitfalls, but identifying RMT's isn't one of them.
It most definately is one of their pitfalls. You don't remember the mass bannings for people gardening too much?
Oh, but I DO remember them. And SOME were selling the gil. It was even published somewhere how they were identified. However , in any investigation, I am sure that innocents WERE caught up in it. But I dont really know or care.
^ fixednot hardly.                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Mekaider 2012-02-07 13:37:29			
			
						
                     
                 I really don't think people understand. You don't just get banned for a flag. The people that were banned the beginning of this month were under investigation for at least 90 days. The OP of this thread had been under investigation. Even people who had a GM called on them for RMT aren't instabanned. They're FLAGGED They're placed under investigation. Cry fowl all you want. I'm not convinced.
I believe OP. At the start of this month i too got a LM-31 ban yet i don't RMT. 
 
This investigation your claiming, that, i'm not convinced of.                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-07 13:40:06			
			
						
                     
                 Carbuncle.Kunisama said: »SE may have their pitfalls, but identifying RMT's isn't one of them.
It most definately is one of their pitfalls. You don't remember the mass bannings for people gardening too much?Oh, but I DO remember them. And they were selling the gil. It was even published somewhere how they were identified. However , in any investigation, I am sure that some innocents MAY have gotten caught up in it. But I doubt it.  
            
                
                     Ragnarok.Nekonarf
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2012-02-07 13:49:43			
			
						
                     
                 shocked I haven't been banned then for porting over 42mil from my mule to buy 4,700 / 6000 byne bills for my next relic, on top of the other silly amounts of gil I've transferred between characters, of which all accumulates on one character before moved over.                                     
    
    
        
        ok so heres the wonderful story that the hard working SE people have done to me this week.
 When trying to log and saying that i couln't and after calling the helpless line to SE telling me that i have been selling gil for money (lol) i think i have to have gil in order to even sell it...
 
 but after talking to the new working at the SE HQ in india they told me that i had too much gil flow within the last week... so apparently you are now suppost to play the game without trading,bazzaring or using the AH... GJ SE heaven forbid you guys do any real work at your job...
 
 then the noob from SE tells my i had a large amount of gil recived in a short amount a time so think back i played the casino (aka Casinoo from those on the asura server known) and won over 18m gil...) winning that much apparently qualifies you as an RMT so for everyone that plays the casino "run away" you get banned for no reason when trying to have fun...
 
 on another note these wonder workers at the SE HQ are the same people in-game known as GM's (aka dont do anything)
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