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New SCH! T_T
Shiva.Hiep
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By Shiva.Hiep 2012-02-05 12:58:33
So.. I'm new to SCH, and was wondering what kind of sets I should be using. Any help is appreciated ^^, Was thinking of using sets for Helix, Sublimation, Nuke, ENF, Dark, ENH, and curing. Are there any other sets out there? Ty~
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-02-05 13:03:37
You also may want to consider a enmity down nuking set for extended fights
Quetzalcoatl.Vileplume
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By Quetzalcoatl.Vileplume 2012-02-05 13:09:01
idle/refresh set, -pdt, -mdt, healing magic skill set
Fenrir.Yuriki
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By Fenrir.Yuriki 2012-02-05 13:12:29
Healing magic is going to rock on SCH come the curing formula update. Might want to think about putting healing skill gear in slots that don't help you cap cure pot.
Shiva.Hiep
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By Shiva.Hiep 2012-02-05 13:17:15
*Edit
Showing gear for the sets would be lovely :)
Phoenix.Bomber
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-02-05 13:39:55
If your a chick all you need to do is rock that Sexy skirt
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Asura.Chefm
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By Asura.Chefm 2012-02-05 13:41:36
I use this (when i get some of the other gear) for healing. Heka's Kalasiris for cure body. Rubeus for refresh * Some of it is used for refresh
Nukeing Gear, has a mix of stuff i use for different nukes or different times i would need it.
Enf. set
My sets arent prefect beside my Light Art one. I dont take the time to update all my gear set online. But this is a good set for a new SCH.
By Latifah 2012-02-05 13:54:47
I use this (when i get some of the other gear) for healing. Heka's Kalasiris for cure body. Rubeus for refresh * Some of it is used for refresh
Nukeing Gear, has a mix of stuff i use for different nukes or
for nuking you want to use af3+2 head and Stoicheion Medal or savaeus neck, always use elemental obis for nuking, a lot of people forget that sch can use
Quetzalcoatl.Kimora
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kimora 2012-02-05 14:20:12
These are some items I use
Cure, I use SV Bonnet+2 with JA:
Enhancing magic affected spells:
Helix spells, I use AG Board+2 without JA:
Other attack magic, I use Rubeus band without JA:
Bismarck.Stfutaru
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By Bismarck.Stfutaru 2012-02-05 14:41:16
Idle (Refresh)
Sublimation
Enhancing
Cure
Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan
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By Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan 2012-02-05 14:53:25
Oh speaking of sch, does anyone have that super awesome SCH spellcast? I used to have it but my comp crashed and I lost it all D: It would switch to light+addendum if you wanted to cast erase and dark/addendum for dispel. Also if you wanted to nuke/raise and needed addendum, it was super cool :\ Also it would confirm if you wanted accession, but you could turn it off if you decided you didn't want to use it for your next spell. I've been having a craving to level some sch lately D:
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By Sylph.Katalsar 2012-02-05 15:08:35
Why no Stoich Medal included in those nuking set hmm????
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-02-05 15:14:30
Don't you mean Saevus Pendant?
Quetzalcoatl.Kimora
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kimora 2012-02-05 15:19:51
Why no Stoich Medal included in those nuking set hmm???? I have not updated the elemental magic set in a while, but I do use it. They should all be my current armor, now
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By Sylph.Katalsar 2012-02-05 15:45:41
Just giving advice we all have our sets...
I'd sub these in your helices set if it was me.
Main: ToM nuking (Duh!)
Sub: Elder's Grip
Neck: Stoich Medal
Waist Oneiros Sash
- I'll assume your using Ebullience
- Tamas Ring < Strendu Ring
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-02-05 15:48:53
Tamas Ring has been obsolete since they released INT+6 Rings, and even before that it was tied with everything else.
Quetzalcoatl.Kimora
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kimora 2012-02-05 17:21:05
Just giving advice we all have our sets...
I'd sub these in your helices set if it was me.
Main: ToM nuking (Duh!)
Sub: Elder's Grip
Neck: Stoich Medal
Waist Oneiros Sash
- I'll assume your using Ebullience
- Tamas Ring < Strendu Ring I have all the magian staves, I leave that area blank because it is not consistant. Comment of the sets say what the blanks are, as well as augments. I think you overestimate the importance of Mag.Attack for helix spell, your suggestions would make my spells weaker.
Tamas Ring has been obsolete since they released INT+6 Rings, and even before that it was tied with everything else. I know Tamas Ring is not the strongest, but I really only use magical jobs, the others I leveled up for the hat. So I am fine with giving up the 2 INT and MND in exchange for the -3enmity.
Shiva.Hiep
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By Shiva.Hiep 2012-02-05 19:38:00
Is a HP build needed for Sublimation? and wat modifies Helix's? MAB & INT?
Asura.Baroma
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By Asura.Baroma 2012-02-05 19:50:35
INT is helix mod
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By Asura.Calatilla 2012-02-05 19:53:58
Elemental Skill, MaB and INT for Helix spells
By Latifah 2012-02-05 20:18:27
Just giving advice we all have our sets...
I'd sub these in your helices set if it was me.
Main: ToM nuking (Duh!)
Sub: Elder's Grip
Neck: Stoich Medal
Waist Oneiros Sash
- I'll assume your using Ebullience
- Tamas Ring < Strendu Ring >Oneiros Sash
Quetzalcoatl.Kimora
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kimora 2012-02-05 20:19:56
Helix is INT and magic attack like other elemental attack magic, but because base damage of spell is so low, INT > Magic attack.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-05 20:23:39
Is a HP build needed for Sublimation? and wat modifies Helix's? MAB & INT?
They changed the way sublimation works a while back. its not ur HP when u "activate" but ur total HP when the charges "complete" if that makes sense.
Take @Kimoras advice. his SCH is very well geared and very knowledgeable.
elemental skill is obsolete its just an inventory sink at this point.
Fast cast set, enhancing(embrava/phalanx), MAB(nuking), helix set, and maybe a cure set for party situations.
(pdt, idle is just extra, regen5 is just amazzzzing).
Wizzan grip
Stendu + icesoul is easiest to obtain combo. im not sure if that VNM ring is better or not.
obi/twilight cape
Bismarck.Stfutaru
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By Bismarck.Stfutaru 2012-02-05 20:50:11
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »maybe a cure set for party situations.
Not maybe, you really should get a cure set.
Is a HP build needed for Sublimation?
It's not necessarily needed but it's useful before fights. With my HP set, I have just more than 2000HP (outside of Abyssea) as a taru. Coupled with Sublimation merits, I get around 500MP from a fully charged sublimation.
Benefits:
- You effectively have 500MP plus whatever your current MP pool is at the beginning of a fight.
- Useful for MP intensive fights when items are used up, and can be a lifesaver especially if you're curing.
Cons:
- Takes up a lot of inventory space.
- With the current events such as Voidwatch, you never really run out of MP; 'useless'.
- Only to be used before a "long" fight. During battle or in between fights, sublimation+ gear should be used.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-05 21:01:33
Bismarck.Stfutaru said: »Not maybe, you really should get a cure set. I should have been more specific, pardon. u SHOULD have a cure set. whether u carry it around. well... if im soloing.... regen5 usually takes care of my self healing. im already 80/80 on sch inventory.... so its not on my top priorities of carrying around my full cure/enmity set around with me. my nefer kalaris and arka IV has to do most of the time...
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-02-05 21:39:03
Best SCH curing set atm, make sure you use haste belt and Veela cape for when weather doesn't align. Under Light Arts, you will be able to hit close enough to the recast cap that you won't be able to cast C4 any faster.
SCH is about consolidating gear, I would give up on the idea of a MDT PDT and HMP set. If you favor obi nuking, you'll want to take as much of them as you can which will probably means you'll have to give up your Sublimation set as well. Otherwise to maintain the most flexibility you'll need
Curing/Healing
Enhancing
MND Enfeeble
INT Enfeeble
Nuking
Helix
Dark magic/Drain
Also a Fastcast and a Recast set (more valuable than you can imagine). The 80 slot gear limitation is really a ***.
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Caitsith.Pebe
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By Caitsith.Pebe 2012-02-06 00:08:19
For the person who said Hyorin obi is greater than oneiros sash for helixes, I would just like to point out that Helixes automatically get the weather bonus regardless of whether or not you are wearing an obi.
Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan
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By Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan 2012-02-06 14:37:33
Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan said: »Oh speaking of sch, does anyone have that super awesome SCH spellcast? I used to have it but my comp crashed and I lost it all D: It would switch to light+addendum if you wanted to cast erase and dark/addendum for dispel. Also if you wanted to nuke/raise and needed addendum, it was super cool :\ Also it would confirm if you wanted accession, but you could turn it off if you decided you didn't want to use it for your next spell. I've been having a craving to level some sch lately D: Found it, Lakshmi.Snuffy was nice enough to re-give to me! If you guys are interested, here it is: Pastebin
Shiva.Hiep
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By Shiva.Hiep 2012-02-06 17:29:30
Thanks alot guys! :), another few silly questions, so for helix's, should I be using twilight cape for its "Enhance Bonus" effect, and can anyone show me a dark set (are scholar's gown/slacks even good?), and best merits are? ^^ ty again ~
So.. I'm new to SCH, and was wondering what kind of sets I should be using. Any help is appreciated ^^, Was thinking of using sets for Helix, Sublimation, Nuke, ENF, Dark, ENH, and curing. Are there any other sets out there? Ty~
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