Atheists Get Place Of Worship??
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Atheists get place of worship??
I've had a pretty good week all things considered.
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Valefor.Slipispsycho said: » Caitsith.Zahrah said: » Ugh...Can't we all just agree that we want people to live happy lives regardless of whether they believe in a deity or not? True, but how much of that bitching is simply over the superficial aspects of life? I mean, how many of us can really sit in a moment of solitary introspection and tell ourselves that our life is terrible without feeling like a total ingrate and jackass? I suppose many fail to have the foresight to realize that self-proclaimed (and often times self-inflicted) misery is indeed selfish.
It took an understanding, empathy and sense of obligation towards others to pull myself out of my teenage phase of brooding self-pity. Sorry, going off topic here. Carry on~
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Atheist worship something?
That's what I said at the beginning of the thread. It's an oxymoron. I wouldn't want to anyway. Not having to be anywhere on Sunday is one of the reasons I like not being a Catholic anymore >_>.
Caitsith.Zahrah said: » Ugh...Can't we all just agree that we want people to live happy lives regardless of whether they believe in a deity or not? Hard to live my life when every day I'm tasked with seeing my rights stripped by theists who believe they're carrying out the will of their deity. They aren't satisfied with the everlasting life they're locked in to receive. They must distort separation of church and state and put down anyone they feel isn't in line. Bad enough most of them can't help but jump to "I'll pray for you" when you reject their offers of salvation but the hatespeech is cranked up to 12 in the US when you make the simple request to be left alone or challenge scripture. I won't even go into the virtual swamp Islam is with regards to any criticisms. Not even the moderates who believe it want to denounce their extremist counterparts.
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Bismarck.Longkissgnight said: » Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: » Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: » Well, i know my God and have experienced Him too much to ever be told otherwise. You cant tell someone something does not exist when they know 100% that it does. But after all, in your own terms. If your right, you lose nothing. If i am right, you have everything to gain. Pascal's Wager? Really? Well; if i knew you guys in rl we could chill and eat, my treat, i don't need to argue these things, but knowing what i have experienced, i have a hearts desire to reach out to people, but since you guys are more hostile then communicative, i can tell my beliefs have no validity and only yours do. Good day, guys, good day. Atheists are Hostile? Maybe with our mouths, but not with air planes, and strap on bombs :D Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Caitsith.Zahrah said: » Ugh...Can't we all just agree that we want people to live happy lives regardless of whether they believe in a deity or not? Hard to live my life when every day I'm tasked with seeing my rights stripped by theists who believe they're carrying out the will of their deity. They aren't satisfied with the everlasting life they're locked in to receive. They must distort separation of church and state and put down anyone they feel isn't in line. Bad enough most of them can't help but jump to "I'll pray for you" when you reject their offers of salvation but the hatespeech is cranked up to 12 in the US when you make the simple request to be left alone or challenge scripture. I won't even go into the virtual swamp Islam is with regards to any criticisms. Not even the moderates who believe it want to denounce their extremist counterparts. Damn! Those Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons must be vicious up North! Serious business when it goes from door to door solicitation to stripping people's rights willy-nilly. Jumping the gun. We don't need to worry about Santorum just yet. I'm positive Obama will get his second term before the US votes in another overly religious nutjob. As much as I like the idea of "a place for doing anything that is good", it still kinda baffles me why the necessity bringing a non-position to a certain position.
I've watched some theists vs atheists debates in these recent months. I think they shouldn't be seen as if both sides have something to argue and to defend. It's about theists necessitate the claims of the supernatural being(s) and atheists to stay unaffected by such claims. Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: » Atheist worship something? Makes as much sense as mainstream hispters.
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: » I see atheism as the color black  where atheism is the absence of a religious belief, much like how black is the absence of color. I still see dumb comments from both sides of the fence are allowed to breed here.
Like the comments on evolution, micro-evolution are real and observable, such as the example for becoming resistant to medicines. Macro-evolution is still just a theory that may or may not be real. Need an example of that? How about these island civilizations that have existed for thousands and thousands of years? They are still building boats. No signs of fins or gills yet. Plus...nowhere does it say that a divine being couldn't have used evolution to mold the world as He sees fit. The Bible tells you why not how. A lot of science is based on axioms, look up the word, if you trust scientific findings, than you have put some form of faith in axioms. So stop acting like people who have faith have no logical basis in faith. This site isn't about open mindedness and free speech, all it is, is a place that atheists are allowed to be hypocrites for everything they claim to want. Where they are allowed to attack peaceful, God loving people simply because they don't share the same belief as them. Once again, that makes you no better than the Westboro Baptist Church. Also the comment about Santorum was priceless...considering Romney is religious too. Here is the definition of axiom for those too lazy to look it up: Quote: axiom (ks-m) A principle that is accepted as true without proof. The statement "For every two points P and Q there is a unique line that contains both P and Q" is an axiom because no other information is given about points or lines, and therefore it cannot be proven. Also called postulate. By the way, we all still devote hours of our day on a video game acquiring virtual currency and gear that has no value to the real world, doesn't benefit our real selves, and will eventually be taken from us when the servers are closed down (whenever that may be). How smart do you think we are now? I see religion as black, because anyone who manages to convince themselves of that ***must have hit an off switch somewhere in their head.
Atheism gets ALL the colors. Ragnarok.Evandis said: » I still see dumb comments from both sides of the fence are allowed to breed here. Like the comments on evolution, micro-evolution is real and observable, such as the example for becoming resistant to medicines. Macro-evolution is still just a theory that may or may not be real. Need an example of that? How about these island civilizations that have existed for thousands and thousands of years? They are still building boats. No signs of fins or gills yet. Plus...nowhere does it say that a divine being couldn't have used evolution to mold the world as He sees fit. The Bible tells you why not how. A lot of science is based on axioms, look up the word, if you trust scientific findings, than you have put some form of faith in axioms. So stop acting like people who have faith have no logical basis in faith. This site isn't about open mindedness and free speech, all it is, is a place that atheists are allowed to be hypocrites for everything they claim to want. Where they are allowed to attack peaceful, God loving people simply because they don't share the same belief as them. Once again, that makes you no better than the Westboro Baptist Church. Also the comment about Santorum was priceless...considering Romney is religious too. Here is the definition of axiom for those too lazy to look it up: Quote: axiom (ks-m) A principle that is accepted as true without proof. The statement "For every two points P and Q there is a unique line that contains both P and Q" is an axiom because no other information is given about points or lines, and therefore it cannot be proven. Also called postulate. By the way, we all still devote hours of our day on a video game acquiring virtual currency and gear that has no value to the real world, doesn't benefit our real selves, and will eventually be taken from us when the servers are closed down (whenever that may be). How smart do you think we are now? 
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: » Atheism gets ALL the colors. Duh, all athiests are gay. Also Muslim, terrorists, abortion clinic owners, and cannibals. I think atheism more fuschia. I'm claiming periwinkle just because I like to say it.
/shrug Can we get color system like the terrorist threat level alert for the AH religion threads? I really just want the opportunity to shout, "Code Periwinkle!" That's all I really want.
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atheist fundamentalists raising hell in ah again?
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Ragnarok.Evandis said: » I still see dumb comments from both sides of the fence are allowed to breed here. Like the comments on evolution, micro-evolution are real and observable, such as the example for becoming resistant to medicines. Macro-evolution is still just a theory that may or may not be real. Need an example of that? How about these island civilizations that have existed for thousands and thousands of years? They are still building boats. No signs of fins or gills yet. Phoenix.Kirana said: » Ragnarok.Evandis said: » I still see dumb comments from both sides of the fence are allowed to breed here. Like the comments on evolution, micro-evolution are real and observable, such as the example for becoming resistant to medicines. Macro-evolution is still just a theory that may or may not be real. Need an example of that? How about these island civilizations that have existed for thousands and thousands of years? They are still building boats. No signs of fins or gills yet. Prove that statement. Caitsith.Zahrah said: » Damn! Those Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons must be vicious up North! Serious business when it goes from door to door solicitation to stripping people's rights willy-nilly. While it's an obvious exaggeration, it's not as far off as you might think. :-( (Now admittedly I live quite close to Utah, which is Mormon Central, as well as in a very conservative state. Also admittedly, a lot of my problems with religion stem from family issues, not issues with religious strangers.) In my hometown you might not even be able to get a job unless you are Mormon. My state never, ever votes for a Democrat in presidential elections. More than one teacher in high school only recommended scholarships for students who claimed to be going to Brigham Young University when they graduated, and refused to write letters of recommendation or the like for students who wanted to go to secular colleges. I had one cousin (on my father's side), ever, who came clean to the family about not believing in the family religion. He was disowned. (Now do keep in mind that I have a cousin on my Mama's side that claims to be "Not religious, but spiritual." She is accepted perfectly fine. However, she also works as an assistant manager at a Christian old folks' home.) My college town has a grand total of two billboards that advertise for Humanists. One said "Millions are good without God." and the other said "Think before you believe." They were both vandalized multiple times, and have received enough threats that whenever people go to un-do the vandalism or replace the billboards because of the vandalism, security details have to be present. (Never once has a Christian billboard in this town been vandalized.) I'll post an article that says more about this at the bottom of this post. Humanists signs or posters are not allowed on campus, but there are several dozen posters for Campus Crusades for Christ and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Door-to-door missionaries are common here. If you ask them not to come back, they will not respect your wishes. It's also common for atheists to receive far less in child custody cases than their Christian counterparts. Check this site for info on that: http://atheism.about.com/od/attacksonatheism/p/AtheistBigotry.htm And here is the site I promised to find earlier in this post, which mentions my state and even my town directly in a list of the top 10 worst places to be an atheist: http://www.alternet.org/belief/151241/10_scariest_states_to_be_an_atheist/?page=entire Please don't think that I am saying that Christians are bad or whatnot. That's not what I believe at all. I believe that people can believe whatever they like. They just shouldn't be upset when others don't agree. Live, and let live. An it harm none do what ye will.
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Ragnarok.Evandis said: » Phoenix.Kirana said: » Ragnarok.Evandis said: » I still see dumb comments from both sides of the fence are allowed to breed here. Like the comments on evolution, micro-evolution are real and observable, such as the example for becoming resistant to medicines. Macro-evolution is still just a theory that may or may not be real. Need an example of that? How about these island civilizations that have existed for thousands and thousands of years? They are still building boats. No signs of fins or gills yet. Prove that statement. The "proof" requires years upon years of geological research among other things which has already been done by others, and repeating it myself would be pointless. This page should be a good starting point. Phoenix.Kirana said: » Ragnarok.Evandis said: » Phoenix.Kirana said: » Ragnarok.Evandis said: » I still see dumb comments from both sides of the fence are allowed to breed here. Like the comments on evolution, micro-evolution are real and observable, such as the example for becoming resistant to medicines. Macro-evolution is still just a theory that may or may not be real. Need an example of that? How about these island civilizations that have existed for thousands and thousands of years? They are still building boats. No signs of fins or gills yet. Prove that statement. The "proof" requires years upon years of geological research among other things which has already been done by others, and repeating it myself would be pointless. This page should be a good starting point. 1. Wikipedia has never been a recognized source of information in the scientific and educational society. 2. You clearly missed the point. Nothing you offered there is proof, just a bunch of references to other people's ideas and beliefs on it. I want empirical proof. Until you can provide it, you have nothing more than a belief. Which makes you the same foolish and illogical person as the religious person you put down.
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Odin.Liela said: » While it's an obvious exaggeration, it's not as far off as you might think. :-( (Now admittedly I live quite close to Utah, which is Mormon Central, as well as in a very conservative state. Also admittedly, a lot of my problems with religion stem from family issues, not issues with religious strangers.) In my hometown you might not even be able to get a job unless you are Mormon. My state never, ever votes for a Democrat in presidential elections. More than one teacher in high school only recommended scholarships for students who claimed to be going to Brigham Young University when they graduated, and refused to write letters of recommendation or the like for students who wanted to go to secular colleges. I had one cousin (on my father's side), ever, who came clean to the family about not believing in the family religion. He was disowned. (Now do keep in mind that I have a cousin on my Mama's side that claims to be "Not religious, but spiritual." She is accepted perfectly fine. However, she also works as an assistant manager at a Christian old folks' home.) My college town has a grand total of two billboards that advertise for Humanists. One said "Millions are good without God." and the other said "Think before you believe." They were both vandalized multiple times, and have received enough threats that whenever people go to un-do the vandalism or replace the billboards because of the vandalism, security details have to be present. (Never once has a Christian billboard in this town been vandalized.) I'll post an article that says more about this at the bottom of this post. Humanists signs or posters are not allowed on campus, but there are several dozen posters for Campus Crusades for Christ and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Door-to-door missionaries are common here. If you ask them not to come back, they will not respect your wishes. It's also common for atheists to receive far less in child custody cases than their Christian counterparts. Check this site for info on that: http://atheism.about.com/od/attacksonatheism/p/AtheistBigotry.htm And here is the site I promised to find earlier in this post, which mentions my state and even my town directly in a list of the top 10 worst places to be an atheist: http://www.alternet.org/belief/151241/10_scariest_states_to_be_an_atheist/?page=entire Please don't think that I am saying that Christians are bad or whatnot. That's not what I believe at all. I believe that people can believe whatever they like. They just shouldn't be upset when others don't agree. Live, and let live. An it harm none do what ye will. Understood, Leila. I won't deny that the religious community has pull in small towns. Baptists were out in droves during HS. They're probably as annoying as it gets here. Anyhow, I'm still struggling to put a cohesive thought together this afternoon, so I'm pretty much just jokes today. Didn't mean to offend. :) |
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