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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-03-31 09:17:21
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Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
This is what I'm aiming for atm


I'd retool that build without AF3 body and try to work in something with ACC.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-03-31 09:31:20
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
This is what I'm aiming for atm


I'd retool that build without AF3 body and try to work in something with ACC.
If you need more acc you could always swap out the body for Ogier's Surcoat (+20acc) and/or drop Tyrant's for Mars's Ring and use Ogier's Gauntlets to maintain 5hit (which would also enable sword strap 5hit if you wanted to go that way).

Stuff is situational etc.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-03-31 09:46:21
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In addition, with Aftermath up, you can then use Phorcys Schuhs if even more acc is needed.

Edit: Could also change hands to Bale +2, allowing you to change the feet to something else. Just throwing stuff out there, and this is all if acc is needed.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-03-31 10:21:30
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Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
In addition, with Aftermath up, you can then use Phorcys Schuhs if even more acc is needed. Edit: Could also change hands to Bale +2, allowing you to change the feet to something else. Just throwing stuff out there, and this is all if acc is needed.


The Haste is overkill and Armadaberk would free up the stp in goading.

But thats a Nyzul fodder build.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-03-31 10:26:17
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
In addition, with Aftermath up, you can then use Phorcys Schuhs if even more acc is needed. Edit: Could also change hands to Bale +2, allowing you to change the feet to something else. Just throwing stuff out there, and this is all if acc is needed.


The Haste is overkill and Armadaberk would free up the stp in goading.

But thats a Nyzul fodder build.
You are correct about the Haste/tp, but those things go without saying. I was just throwing out different acc pieces that wouldn't destroy the 5hit.

Edit: Mostly, I was looking at pre-AM sets, as alot of options open up when you have that extra haste to play around with.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs 2012-03-31 10:32:49
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This is what I use

dont have Ganesha's Mala yet.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-03-31 10:42:48
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Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs said: »
This is what I use

dont have Ganesha's Mala yet.
If you have any STP on the 'berk, you could drop Tyrants for Mars's.
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2012-03-31 10:43:25
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Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs said: »
This is what I use

dont have Ganesha's Mala yet.

Should use Rancor Collar then.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs 2012-03-31 11:08:54
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Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs said: »
This is what I use

dont have Ganesha's Mala yet.
If you have any STP on the 'berk, you could drop Tyrants for Mars's.
I have 6, dropping Tyrants would mess my 5hit
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By Asura.Toxleh 2012-03-31 13:33:25
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here's my updated sets

TP


AM /SAM


AM /WAR


CATA (bale +2 feet/moonshade for entropy)
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-03-31 13:35:01
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By Shiva.Zykei 2012-03-31 13:45:49
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5 hit AM /WAR worth it?


21.4/hit + 15.2 WS I think, getting Salade when my tags recharge...
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By Ragnarok.Alcarin 2012-04-01 05:58:40
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Quick Question, if you are /Sam how many store tp gear you need in TP
for 5hit? thanks
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-04-01 06:04:33
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Ragnarok.Alcarin said: »
Quick Question, if you are /Sam how many store tp gear you need in TP
for 5hit? thanks
29 STP

Edit: 34 STP with Sword Strap (just in case you wanted to know)
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By Ragnarok.Alcarin 2012-04-01 06:13:29
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Thanks for the fast answer!
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By Carbuncle.Crollion 2012-04-11 18:46:38
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question anyone got any Cata sets for attack capped?

cause i have the feeling T body not helping much TBH.
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By Lakshmi.Chaosblast 2012-04-12 20:50:05
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Question... How do i trigger a set change in spellcast when a buff comes up or wears? Specifically aftermath for apoc...
Code
<rules>
                <if buffactive="Aftermath">
					<equip when="autosset" set="ScytheAM" />
				</if>
				<if status="idle">
					<equip when="idle" set="Idle" />
				</if>
				<elseif status="engaged">
					<if EquipMain="Apocalypse">
						<if buffactive="Aftermath">
							<equip when="engaged" set="ScytheAM" />
						</if>
						<elseif notbuffactive="Aftermath">
							<equip when="engaged" set="Scythe" />
						</elseif>
					</if>
				</elseif>
</rules>


It works when I re-engage with aftermath up, but not if I just WS and stay engage.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-04-12 20:53:14
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You don't, because Spellcast doesn't and has never been able to do that. Best solution is to trigger a dummy spell with AutoExec.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-04-15 20:28:19
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Shiva.Zykei said: »
5 hit AM /WAR worth it?


21.4/hit + 15.2 WS I think, getting Salade when my tags recharge...
This, for reals.
Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
Ragnarok.Alcarin said: »
Quick Question, if you are /Sam how many store tp gear you need in TP
for 5hit? thanks
29 STP

Edit: 34 STP with Sword Strap (just in case you wanted to know)
It's 34STP to true 5hit, no sword strap.

You can make it work /WAR with 54STP like the set posted above, again, true 5hit.

Atma question: for doing trials, normal DD atmas, or anything special for cata?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-04-15 21:36:48
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May want to drop RR since it greatly increases your risk of killing the mob prematurely.

Barring regain or STP food, I'm getting better numbers with a 6hit. Given the low acc of such a set, capped attack is almost a given, which constricts useful options somewhat... this seems to edge out the usual Valk setup ever so slightly in such a situation:



I'd also argue that this set is actually be more accessible than a Valk build. Abyssea notwithstanding since it's partially dependent on the STR gained but DRK in Abyssea and all that.

EDIT: Forgot to note, that set only works with buffs+LR up since it's 13% haste. Otherwise Valk/Ace's is still favorable.
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2012-04-20 03:53:03
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
You don't, because Spellcast doesn't and has never been able to do that. Best solution is to trigger a dummy spell with AutoExec.

Really?
How works switching af3+2 head over other options on BLU spells when CA is up? Or Berserk down/up sets? I tho they works like that and you dont need to manually look if you have buff up to choose right macro.

Logically you should be able to macro TP set and it should check you "buff" and equip right gear no?

Unless it works completely different?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-04-20 04:01:36
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It can put on gear depending on buffs, BUT, it does'nt automaticly swap gear to the right sets right away, unless you trigger something.
Like, you use Berserk -> berserks gets active and spellcast changes your gear back to what it was before berserk was up.
If you have autoexec trigger a spell or something when berserk gets activated, it switches to the right set.

Edit:

<register event="gainbuff_Aftermath" silent="true">/ma "holy"</register>
<register event="losebuff_Aftermath" silent="true">/ma "holy"</register>
Something like that would work
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-04-20 10:04:16
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Updated my Apoc sets.

/sam, I haven't optimized my /war sets because its a lot more complicated since I"m generally /war for VW and zergs where Embrava, atmacites etc all come into play.

Anyways...

TP


AM


WS


100.1 TP

Toxleh's set actually pulls slightly ahead with capped ACC. 27 more ACC in my set allows more flexibility on a broader range of mobs.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2012-04-28 14:05:40
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Off-topic somewhat, but I didn't want to start a new thread for this. I'm seeing lots of Armadaberks being used so question to the Armadaberk owners. In terms of Synergy and augmentation, is getting Store TP on it just dumb luck? Or is there a way to get Store TP more often? I'm currently 3/40 on seeing Store TP, the highest being +3. I realize it's not a large sample, but suffice to say I'm moderately frustrated so I'm curious if I'm missing something.

I always am within 1 of the elemental balance, though usually I match it. I also take impurities below 10% every time. Not sure if these affect it, if anything affects it. Just hoping to hear some experience as I'd like to maximize my set easier if possible.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-04-28 14:06:17
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Luck.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2012-04-28 14:12:48
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Luck.

Gay.









Thank you.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-04-28 14:26:50
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Sylph.Systematicchaos said: »
Off-topic somewhat, but I didn't want to start a new thread for this. I'm seeing lots of Armadaberks being used so question to the Armadaberk owners. In terms of Synergy and augmentation, is getting Store TP on it just dumb luck? Or is there a way to get Store TP more often? I'm currently 3/40 on seeing Store TP, the highest being +3. I realize it's not a large sample, but suffice to say I'm moderately frustrated so I'm curious if I'm missing something.

I always am within 1 of the elemental balance, though usually I match it. I also take impurities below 10% every time. Not sure if these affect it, if anything affects it. Just hoping to hear some experience as I'd like to maximize my set easier if possible.

I went 1\25-30 (lost count a bit) on stp+5 da+2 on NQ ebody, so it's just luck.
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2012-05-02 00:01:48
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Ragnarok.Lugat said: »
Fenrir.Greever said: »
Im getting my apoc tomrrow and was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to share their apoc drk xml with me.

Based on Yugl's work on BG Aftermath stuff hasn't really been tested I'm still just shy of stage 4 apoc

Have you updated the XML's since you posted them? I copied them in an attempt to use them for myself but could not get the include file to register as an xml after I saved it.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-05-04 08:24:06
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This ws set for cata is setup to be copacetic with this aftermath:



I was going to use the 5-phorcys set above, before the novelty started to wear, and it requires a little more tweeking. I'm gonna spreadsheet a couple sets later when I'm not busy at work. I feel this set here is great on double attack attack and acc but I feel like it lacks +str.
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