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 Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-01-21 18:39:42
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Let's also say no WoE-GA, basicly wondering which GA is the best one for the new WS?
Not just for epeen, but all-over.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-01-21 18:42:28
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Widowmaker

Str, Vit and also bestows "enhances double attack damage" Which is very nice.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-01-21 18:45:48
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OAT might be up there. Can't check the spreadsheet atm though, sorry.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-01-21 18:47:01
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maybe the lvl 99 tpbonus ToM Greataxe?

though its 488 delay, so would be a bit harder to 5hit.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-01-21 18:47:14
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Widowmaker for obvious reasons!!
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-01-21 18:51:33
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Actually the TP bonus Gaxe looks pretty good for Upheaval at the moment.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-01-21 18:51:35
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So, 5hit widowmaker? or a 6hit with sword strap?
Have'nt checked up gear needed for 5hit, but I imagine it would really destroy tp-phase dmg?
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-01-21 18:55:22
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I have to tried the new TP GA . That maybe what your looking for. Anyone have numbers for the new TP GA??
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-01-21 21:24:27
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Is it confirmed if Gorget/Belt work on all hits of the WS or not?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-01-21 21:28:00
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Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Is it confirmed if Gorget/Belt work on all hits of the WS or not?

Last I heard, no, it does not.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-01-21 21:35:59
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Fair enough, actually I'm kind of glad to hear that lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-01-21 21:59:41
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I feel like I'm missing something here... Widowmaker is outdated at this point and the WSDMG gaxe would beat the TP bonus path given that fTP only applies to the first hit of Upheaval. I'd also submit DA and STR path weapons for consideration but I've no idea how they actually stack up.

inb4 pdt gaxe
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By Odin.Sheelay 2012-01-21 22:17:44
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11 VIT on the Pdt Telamon for Upheaval yo! ;o
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-01-21 22:23:42
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Given the fact I'm a lazy *** with ToM weapons I could'nt tell you myself.
I would've assumed the DA Gaxe would be heavily devalued due to War's High amount Double attack.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-01-22 03:18:57
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
I feel like I'm missing something here... Widowmaker is outdated at this point and the WSDMG gaxe would beat the TP bonus path given that fTP only applies to the first hit of Upheaval. I'd also submit DA and STR path weapons for consideration but I've no idea how they actually stack up.

inb4 pdt gaxe

I was thinking that too.
"This thing can hardly be at the top spot anymore <_>"
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By BahtBaht 2012-01-22 08:44:40
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I would believe that the correct answer would be Shamash (D144 Delay:504 "Ukko's Fury" > Telamon (D133 Delay:482 STR+11 Attack+26) > Tavatimsa (D125 Delay:488 WS DMG+10%). Though it's possible that the WS DMG may be better then the STR magian for WS's. I'd have a hard time believing that the added 8 main DMG with the added STR/attack wouldn't make the comparison close, considering the TP phase as well.

Edit: And sorry Kvazz somehow I missed the whole "No WoE GA" in the OP. ~_~;
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By mortontony1 2012-02-25 21:12:40
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So after reading this and seeing nothing but ToM GAxes, we basically have Laceratrice and Widowmaker to choose from, correct?

Edit: spelling
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By Bahamut.Wolfjorg 2012-02-25 21:22:58
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You are correct in only those 2 to choose from, since OP is obviously talking about AH or RA/EX Gaxe only.
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By mortontony1 2012-02-25 21:27:58
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Can't tell if trolling, sarcastic, or serious. But regardless, Widowmaker for inside, Laceratrice for out?
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By Xorn 2012-02-25 22:25:57
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Was the specific amount of increase to double attack damage on Widowmaker ever discovered? I don't see the info anywhere.
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By Odin.Morgish 2012-02-25 22:58:54
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I didn't screen shot it but i got two procs on the widowmaker crit dmg went from 643 to 1286 on two double attacks and no it wasn't war af3 set bonus i tested without it.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-02-25 23:03:11
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So what you're saying is widowmaker is 100% DA damage increase?
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-02-25 23:14:14
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It's 2% iirc. I imagine laceratrice is better everywhere
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-02-25 23:15:48
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Odin.Morgish said: »
I didn't screen shot it but i got two procs on the widowmaker crit dmg went from 643 to 1286 on two double attacks and no it wasn't war af3 set bonus i tested without it.
Have to say Poidh on this.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-26 06:54:31
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Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
It's 2% iirc. I imagine laceratrice is better everywhere

Lolwiki, but it lists the DA dmg as +10%.

And nowhere in OP did I say anything about ToM GAs not counting, just non-emp\relic\mythic. :P

Everything just seems so weak compared to Ukon\Bravura, compared to scythes\great swords for DRK..
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-02-26 06:56:53
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Odin.Morgish said: »
I didn't screen shot it but i got two procs on the widowmaker crit dmg went from 643 to 1286 on two double attacks and no it wasn't war af3 set bonus i tested without it.

Why do people even say things like this when they know it's completely false?
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By Bismarck.Markas 2012-02-26 07:16:25
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Odin.Morgish said: »
I didn't screen shot it but i got two procs on the widowmaker crit dmg went from 643 to 1286 on two double attacks and no it wasn't war af3 set bonus i tested without it.
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By Bismarck.Markas 2012-02-26 07:19:34
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but on topic. my gf is using a warlords axe (her ukon is only 80 atm) and was pulling off some pretty nice upheavals even at level 1.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-02-26 17:29:31
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Has the OaT GA been mentioned? I would assume it stands as a good contender for best non empy/relic/mythic. I have no math to support this, but i'm thinking that it would be good for the same reasons OaT GS is one of the better weapons for drk.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-26 17:35:09
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WAR has more DA and thus benefits less from OAT. I believe the delay is also relatively less attractive (514 on GAxe vs Fulgurante's 480).
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