Lv.99 MNK TP Set
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lv.99 MNK TP set
Latifah said: » it's true that Spharai 99 is better than vereng? just saw someone comment about it saying that Assuming 440 hand-to-hand skill and 366 delay, with at least two attacks per round (guaranteed), DPS math for these would seem to be: 60/366*(3+floor(440*.11)+52) = ~16.88 per fist, or ~33.76 DPS total. Delay for Spharai MNK is 566 not 366. Ramuh.Austar said: » What? 280+86=566? 280 is delay cut by martial arts trait. It goes under -80% total delay reduction so when its true that naked MNK with Spharai will have 280+86 delay it cant be said that Spharai pure DPS (as weapons comparison) can be calculated with this lower delay. Its important because total delay for Spharai MNK can go as low as 566*0.2 not 366*0.2 Its pretty the same as saying naked DRK Ragnarok delay would be 353 ( Thats avg delay counting Last resort up/down) but Ragnarok delay is still 431. Which won't happen unless you're getting haste samba anyways.
It really doesnt matter how achievable is that. WAR cant reach cap with Ukonvasara ( w/o samba ) either and that doesnt change the fact Ukonvasara is 482.
Well maybe I will say when its important. Its important when you want to make comparison between other type of weapons/jobs DPS. Its less important when you compare h2h with h2h. Duh? Unless you do your TP Per hit based on 566, it's not 566 delay. It's 366 with delay reduction capped at 566*.8 Same situation as ninjas.
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So a Spharai MNK beat a Vere MNK on Orthrus in Abyssea? Did that Vere MNK drop his ***for being terrible?
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There is another reason besides counter though, you could just argue that jesus willed it
There is a edit post button you can use.
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Is there a button for giving a ***?
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Ramuh.Austar said: » Duh? Unless you do your TP Per hit based on 566, it's not 566 delay. It's 366 with delay reduction capped at 566*.8 Same situation as ninjas. When talking about weapon DPS you cant really take into account delay reduction traits. I guess its just personal point of view more than some rule so lets drop it. Hey Austar, can you do me a favor? Can you weigh the relative pros and cons of two weapons as they apply to real, in-game situations by using perimeters that are literally inapplicable in real, in-game situations?
Thanks.
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: » Is there a button for giving a ***? Hmm. I would think the only one would possibly be the reply button. But it doesn't always mean "Give a ***" Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: » Spharai 95/99 beats 99 vere in total dmg. My ls mate always beats Ukko war/Vere mnks in parses with his 95 spharai.
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Ramuh.Austar said: » Duh? Unless you do your TP Per hit based on 566, it's not 566 delay. It's 366 with delay reduction capped at 566*.8 Same situation as ninjas. Oh btw I forgot to ask what was exactly wrong with Latifah's DPS formula if you agreed that delay is 366? That's a horrible way to find DPS.
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Ramuh.Austar said: » That's a horrible way to find DPS. What you mean? If you want to compare DPS between for example great sword and h2h what other formula would be better? Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: » Look, Only banwaggon Mnks are going to get sad that Spharai beats Vere. Sorry that its going to more than a couple of hours to make the best weapon a Mnk can use. <3 Take care! And Austar you really hurt my feelings... ; ; .... lol i could care less what you think. By the way, it's couldn't care less. Unless you do care?
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Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: » Look, Only banwaggon Mnks are going to get sad that Spharai beats Vere. Sorry that its going to more than a couple of hours to make the best weapon a Mnk can use. <3 Take care! And Austar you really hurt my feelings... ; ; .... lol i could care less what you think. Its exactly the other way around.. Fake elitist jerks will try to defend Spharai because they somehow think that its harder to make and turn ppl who own it into true MNKs. Truth was told many times in this thread. They are close and depending on the situation one will beat another. You only making yourself looks like a giant troll when you trying to argue about this using some bs Orthrus competition with your half brain friends vs parses, math and experience of many ppl.
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