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lv.99 MNK TP set
 Bahamut.Gimpness
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By Bahamut.Gimpness 2012-01-12 03:23:10
I'm wondering what your opinion on my TP sets is.
well, most of the time you're gonna be /war, no? so alternating between focus and aggressor sorta makes a focus up set pointless. If you *really* need the acc then eat pizza or sushi or w/e
Would use the second tp set and use aesir instead of moonshade. Would reconsider the moonshade, 3 counter and 4 acc isn't so great.
PC up set is fine, think that's really just 2 pieces though.
 Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-01-12 03:24:50
Is'nt focus up\down sets pretty lame anyways, unless you know the exact evasion of your target? (Like greater colibris back in the day)
Bahamut.Gimpness
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By Bahamut.Gimpness 2012-01-12 03:27:44
Melee Gloves +2 are a viable option. I believe you are only short 0.4% haste from the true cap. BB, Tantra Head and Hose all have a lot of Haste on them in 1 junk, this is better than a lot of gear with small %s of Haste stacked up.
Atm I use 2 sets myself:
Tantra Head, Faith, Melee Gloves +2 - Just good allrounder
Ganesha, Rancor Collar, Tantra Hands +2 - When I want more power and dmg taken dosn't matter
Both setups work around +1D from skill. Bruisers not needed.
I like ganesha, rancor, tantra hands better because you're only losing 5 acc and 7 str ... but you gain 5% crit rate and 4% att.
Again, if you *need* the acc, eat fewdz
Bahamut.Gimpness
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By Bahamut.Gimpness 2012-01-12 03:29:17
Is'nt focus up\down sets pretty lame anyways, unless you know the exact evasion of your target? (Like greater colibris back in the day)
yea... but you can like.. guess :3?
idk. stick with
unless you use a regain moonshade :3...
 Bahamut.Tychefm
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2012-01-12 04:55:22
You'd be surprised, both setups are pretty even on ATK in reality. Faith + Melee Gloves +2 actually have a little edge with buffs.
I don'T know why but the more buffs you have the better the first setup does against Ganeshas setup in the attack part.
For example:
No buffs: First setup 1ATK more
RCB + berserk: First setup 7ATK more
It must be the way the % ATK are calculated. My guess is Berserk, Boost and other buffs simply ignores the 4% ATK on Ganeshas in regards of increasing their own potency.
So it really only comes down to +16 Suble Blow vs +5% Crit +10% damage taken. Obviously the Crit is better, the first setup more comfortable for lowman things.
By Cannonaire 2012-01-12 05:25:43
Again, if you *need* the acc, eat fewdz I hope that people would be using food on important things anyway.
Bahamut.Tychefm
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2012-01-12 05:33:45
Some more data on the Ganesha's Mask issue:
MNK/WAR naked: 507 ATK
MNK/WAR with Ganesha only: 527 ATK
MNK/WAR with Mel. Gloves+2: 528 ATK
With Berserk
MNK/WAR naked: 633 ATK
MNK/WAR with Ganesha only: 653 ATK
MNK/WAR with Mel. Gloves+2: 660 ATK
This should count for % Boosts like Berserk, Boost, Chaosroll etc
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-01-12 07:50:11
Again, if you *need* the acc, eat fewdz I hope that people would be using food on important things anyway.
Support your local cooks, and kill things better, all in one convenient package!
 Fenrir.Camaroz
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2012-01-12 07:56:23
Again, if you *need* the acc, eat fewdz I hope that people would be using food on important things anyway.
Support your local cooks, and kill things better, all in one convenient package!
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 Siren.Julio
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By Siren.Julio 2012-01-12 08:20:40
I'd prefer to use ATT food and cap ACC through gear though
Bismarck.Eburo
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By Bismarck.Eburo 2012-01-12 09:04:30
I use Red Curry Buns on everything that isn't Voidwatch (except for a few), and well... on anything we aren't zerging in Voidwatch I use Marinara Pizza +1 so I can lolproc stuff easier.
I have 78 cooking, but unfortunately cooking isn't exactly profitable enough for me to bother gathering materials when I can't HQ everything. :/
Bahamut.Gimpness
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By Bahamut.Gimpness 2012-01-12 17:58:05
Again, if you *need* the acc, eat fewdz I hope that people would be using food on important things anyway.
well, i assume people at least use yellow curry... red if you have the gils.
so pizza(+1) or sushi if you need acc, whatever floats your boat :3
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By Asura.Akamatzu 2012-01-12 18:46:58
This is my current 99 TP setup.
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 Quetzalcoatl.Artichaos
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By Quetzalcoatl.Artichaos 2012-01-12 19:41:28
This is my current 99 TP setup. Ditch the TOAU ring, switch the Ammo piece out, the new +15 attacks good sub and lose the Kemas, should be capping acc (Unless doing Voidwatch then that's different)
Edit, if you dont have sea togue, use rancor collor :)
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By Asura.Akamatzu 2012-01-12 21:58:43
Which one of these should I be using? Attack+4 and Regain+1
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-01-12 22:14:33
If you have Regain augment, it is the best. If not, Aesir is good.
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By Asura.Akamatzu 2012-01-15 17:33:06
This is my ws setup for Shijin Spiral.
I was questions on heads pieces, belt, neck and hands.
I have Aias Bonnet for head wonder would that be better then the Tokon?
Would Tantra hands or Melee Gloves+2 be better?
Light Belt or Anuguinus Belt? Why?
And should I ws in Ire Torque+1 or Agasaya's Collar?
If you could leave a reason why would be awesome.
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-01-15 17:35:32
Quote: aias/ele gorget/aesir earring/thew bomblet/melee+2 gloves/epona's ring/and aurore boots
Courtesy of a friend.
More
Quote: melee +2 cuz 21 attack > 7, anguinus cuz fTP on light belt isn't on all hits like some other new WS, and both of those necks suck *** for it, so use something like justiciar's, moepapa, or ele gorget if you're cheap Quote: oh and if he can find an artful+1, that'd be even better of a belt
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Asura.Kreed
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By Asura.Kreed 2012-02-01 10:23:27
Is what I use most of the time. I've been switching between Brutal Earring and Bruiser's earring, playing around with it. Of course I love the Brutal for the +DA, and wouldn't imagine anything else when I /nin, but 90% I'm /war, So... +Bruiser's gives me 450h2h with everything else pushes att to 652, iirc. Can't log due to payment issues atm. I know the "haste boots are bad, m'kay" rule, but this brings me to 24%, and helps ACC, Kick att+, and Subtle Blow, and I hit pretty hard. Been contemplating what to drop the Rajas ring for. Open to any suggestions. I have Ulthalam's Ring, and couple other options. Just curious about the general opinion.
Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2012-02-01 10:28:08
Brutal will without a doubt be better then an attack earring.
Ragnarok.Crunkie
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By Ragnarok.Crunkie 2012-02-01 10:30:08
Is what I use most of the time. I've been switching between Brutal Earring and Bruiser's earring, playing around with it. Of course I love the Brutal for the +DA, and wouldn't imagine anything else when I /nin, but 90% I'm /war, So... +Bruiser's gives me 450h2h with everything else pushes att to 652, iirc. Can't log due to payment issues atm. I know the "haste boots are bad, m'kay" rule, but this brings me to 24%, and helps ACC, Kick att+, and Subtle Blow, and I hit pretty hard. Been contemplating what to drop the Rajas ring for. Open to any suggestions. I have Ulthalam's Ring, and couple other options. Just curious about the general opinion.
Drop the silly looking feet and use Emp+2 feet. They are definitely better. If you're going to use the +2 relic hands I would highly suggest dropping the Ganesha's Head for the empy +2 or relic+2 head to get your haste back up. It will make a difference in your DoT. And make up your mind on earrings. I go with the brutal/bruiser's combo personally.
Asura.Kreed
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By Asura.Kreed 2012-02-01 10:54:14
Like I said, I often rely on the Aesir/Bruiser's, unless I'm /nin for some reason, then I usually Aesir/Brutal. /war, have played around with Brutal/Aesir and Brutal/Bruiser's a bit. That's a loss of quite a bit of attack swapping the Ganesha's though. And, why are the Sava feet silly? -.-'
I'm not trying to be controversial, but the loss of 1% haste doesn't seem that huge, I don't recognize a huge difference, but I'm sure there is a bit. And, I was mostly curious about what, if anything anyone would suggest swapping with the Rajas ring with.
Ragnarok.Crunkie
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By Ragnarok.Crunkie 2012-02-01 11:10:04
I guess in a situation where you have haste full time and marches the 2% haste isn't going to matter. But if you are unbuffed and in a low man situation those extra few hits are going to make a difference if the fight gets drawn out. I would advise you to download a parser and check your sets out in dynamis for a week or so trading gear sets out every day to find what works best. That's what I did and that's the suggestions I made to you. Because with me it did give me more DoT.
You could use Strigoi ring > rajas if you wanted extra attack. Aside from that I've never really bothered with rings for MNK.
Ragnarok.Crunkie
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By Ragnarok.Crunkie 2012-02-01 11:14:17
Also those feet you are using just increases the chance of kick attacks. The emp+2 feet give kick attacks damage plus~ So you are losing out on 8 STR which will increase your base attack. And losing out on the extra Kick attack damage, which makes you do even more damage.
Edit: This is my TP set, plain simple caps haste and get's the most attack I can without sacrificing. Also I use Toci's Harness when Impetus is down.
Asura.Kreed
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By Asura.Kreed 2012-02-01 11:31:38
Bleh... Lord Ruthven. Maybe he's less annoying now at 99. I would hope so anyways. I totally forgot about that ring. And, about everything else, sounds good. Thanks for sharing, I'll consider. Really like the relic+2 gloves though, lol >.>
Ragnarok.Crunkie
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By Ragnarok.Crunkie 2012-02-01 11:41:41
I see you have BST unlocked. You can solo Lord Ruthven with BST just bring dawn muslums. He is cakes. Just make sure he has a shadow when you fight him. I would depop him if no shadow and try again. Bring a THF friend for TH or maybe TH pet? I saw it done with gooey gerald easily~
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-02-01 11:45:26
You lose 5atk/5acc/2str/MA bonus with impetus down using Toci's, why?
Also, Rancor/Brutal/Aesir is better than Faith/Bruiser/Brutal.
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 Bismarck.Disguise
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By Bismarck.Disguise 2012-02-01 11:48:18
This is my TP set, I love it.
Working on finishing my Whitegate missions for the earring and farming a pop set for a Faith Torque.
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Hello all,
Hope you all had a Merry Christmas.
I never really bothered with the math between 90~95. At 99 is this the
optimal TP set for MNK.
Does this set bring us to MAX tier? Or is it too much? Let me know it would be appreciated.
Thankyou
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