Lv.99 MNK TP Set

MA
331/531 = .62335217

Capped gear haste.25

(1024 -(256+448))/1024 .3125 x .6234 = .1948

24%

(1024-(246+448))/1024 .3223 x .6234 =.2009


Messed up originally using the in game % values

but still

Vere MNK can cap delay with just gear MA and magic haste.

You only need 67.915% haste with verethragna after martial arts. With capped Magic Haste (43.75) you need 24.165% from gear and/or ja. Kyler's set puts you at worse case 250/1024 or 24.41% so it caps haste.

Further Dark Designs adds nothing for monk but an additional 50tp bonus over the 75tp bonus you'd have from moonshade +Latitude (9% crit for WS ONLY if ws fired at 100tp), which is indeed nice. Valiant adds 15 to all stats (perhaps some base damage from fSTR but at the least attack, and unless dDEX capped 2% crit up to a possible 10% depending on dDEX prior to atmacite) while allowing gear changes which at the very least allow for more DA (twilight) or 2% TA and 1% QA (windbuffet) which greatens WS frequency and almost always outweighs the tp bonus.

While Kyler's example illustrates using Tantra mitts, nomkhapa or Tenryu both keep haste capped and can also be used. If attack caped can use a multitude of different head pieces. While 9% crit for WS is super nice, being that we are talking about monks, and a huge percentage of damage is due to melee damge while building TP, I would 9 of 10 times recommend Valiant>Latitude.

If you're in a party of say, Competent DD, Would Atmacite of the Depth's be a good Atmacite?

HP+15% STR+15 (Useless) Sphere: Double Attack +2%.

as a DRK, it would have the added benefit of 15% HP for Souleater, but in general for this situation, its more a question of the Sphere... How much Damage/WS Frequency would adding 2% Double Attack to 2-3 Melees do? Maybe assume a they're MNK... (Assuming BRD/COR/WHM/3DD).

This is honestly a question for my own enlightenment. Sphere effects are relatively new concepts and I figure one must consider that when thinking of group events with competent, solid DDs such as yourself. If this has been discussed elsewhere, Point me in that direction.

Not sure why some of you are giving value to store TP.

Monarch's Drink, Tactician's Roll, Embrava, Adloquium, Dusty Wings.... There's hardly a time that I'm playing monk where I don't have 1 or more of these.

I'm pretty anal about making sure I weaponskill as soon as I have the TP for it, and I can honestly say I don't even remember the last time I was at exactly 100 TP on my MNK.

I guess my point is, you shouldn't let a spreadsheet make you waste money or inventory space.

If you're anal about WSing at exactly 100, then the store tp people are saying you should wear would benefit you "alot".

You're wrong. To clarify, I'm referring specifically to Hagneia Stone. It's just a direct downgrade to Potestas unless you don't have regain of any form.

Ok but well, Embrava is getting nerfed hard.
VW is'nt everything.
You should'nt get tact roll in combat.
Once brava is nerfed, there's way less of a chance you'll have a SCH in your pt, so no Adloquium either.

Those are all good points. Although I disagree with the last one. And none of them actually address why anyone is using Hagneia's right now except in... Abyssea and Dynamis I guess? I guess the way I see it, I could buy a Hagneia and add something like this to my spellcast:
<if notbuffactive = "any form of regain">
<ammo>Hagneia Stone</ammo>
</if>

In a world where it isn't possible to have gear sets for when you have regain and when you don't.

More at 11.

In my experience, I have regain a LOT more often than I don't. Not to mention there are too many times where DA/TA/QA/KA make it so even without regain I'm not landing at 99 tp very often. I know the spreadsheet accounts for this last factor, and that's why they are so close in dps comparison.
Also I'm not sure if calculations ever takes in to account tp you gain from being hit.

Even having 2 decent drk rings to blink in more than negates it.

*** yeah necroquote?

How's mustella mask?

Also is hagneia stone worth it or white tathum.. or just spam hkcnm?

It has a field for you to add arbitrary amounts of TP gain/loss if you want to simulate getting hit more or less.

Also, I don't get why you guys are arguing over the shitty dps:gil ratio of Hagneia when Nomkahpa is the big kahuna of gil wastefulness. Nomkahpa's price is 20% usefulness and 80% towngear.

Actually it's about 80% "Nobody Does Flux 15". Supply and demand. Rare but in-demand drop from a fight people don't usually attempt, and those who do may want to keep the drop.

I don't think Hagneia Stone is worth it. I think Potestas is the best option for ammo slot with uncapped attack and Tantra Tathlum for capped attack, but it depends on the situation. If you don't have regain and you aren't taking damage, Hagneia > all. I just think the situations where this is the case are too rare to warrant paying for it. "Worth it" is in the eyes of the buyer though.

Better off spending the time/resources saving for hexed tekko -1.

I have the abjuration, but I gotta get heavy metal plates and riftcinders first =/

Not really a huge MNK player but a buddy of mine just finished his Glanzfaust last night and I came up with this TP set for him curious as to if this is any good or not and if any improvements can be made.

narbo, ima brak you. yolo

Hasty Pinion making me weep :c

THAT's what got you? lol

That and Ocelot Gloves.

for tp use a Athel Mantle. And a potestas bomblet if attack is capped.
Also use a attack +9 earring instead of kick attack earring. And a racor collar any time he has fanatics drink / healer

Hahaha hexed tekko -1 is a MUST!

Just curious, but any reason Thaumas Nails aren't showing up in this thread?

This is what I use.



I'd imagine Thaumas nails being an upgrade over Tantra gaiters +2, but maybe there's some mathy stuff I'm missing. Any help would be appreciated.

I put your gear set in vs tantra feet +2 in excel dps spread sheet, tantra wins by 1.722 dps

The reason Thaumas Nails do not show up is because they do not beat AF3.

Do you guys mean from a DPS standpoint? Because they do seem like they'd get you to 100 TP faster than Tantra though.

DA has diminishing returns, on top of ws/tp split being a lot stronger in tps favor on mnk compared to other heavy DDs. So even if it does barely get you to 100% faster, af3 still beat it in overall dps.