Lv.99 MNK TP Set

Read the question, he asked which was better not which was the best. Unless you mean neither regarding the nq or hq.

Sorry I saw best for some reason. Full af3 over toci when impetus is up.

Np I edited it because "neither" could of been a reply to the 2nd question regarding oce nq/hq, either way it left alot to the imagination lol. I thought you may of read it as best though yea.

Yeah I didn't mean best XD No Thaumas yet unfortunately.

I also meant to mention about Impetus down or not. I currently have my spellcast swap me to Toci/Ocelemeh when Impetus down and was wondering if it was actually best. Sorry for not being verbose enough.

Thanks for the help.

If you do not have Thuams coat, TP in Toci/Ocelomeh+1 impetus down. the 7% haste on the HQ is the difference between being at 24% vs 25% haste, so I would highly recommend it since the question of whether or not "you're only adding a fraciton of a percent of haste" does not apply--you are getting the full effect of that extra 1% haste assuming you are using Black Belt(12%) and Tantra Hose+2(6%) as your only other sources of haste. This lets you hit 25% haste in your impetus down TP set with Oce headpiece+1/BB/AF3+2 legs, while also maintaining melee gloves+2 in the hand slot as opposed to another haste option.

However, if you do not have Toci's harness already, I would sincerely recommend you divert your efforts to potentially forming a Neo-Nyzul group; if you roll the dice enough times, you'll eventually pull out a 100 win (and frankly, Thaumas body would even be worth the effort of locking onto Floor 80 and obtaining 25 gold medals if 100 truly is out of reach). Thaumas becomes your cure-all for the TP phase body slot, and given the rarity of Toci's coupled with the time it takes to form groups, it would be worth the effort to pump out one NN win.

Thanks. I luckily have Toci's Harness already.

Ocelomeh + 1 is over 5mil on my server and I have a contact selling Thaumas for 7mil, so I'll just focus my efforts there.

Right now my current set is tantra legs/hands/feet thaumas body Ganesha mask rancor collar and aeth mantle, petatos bomblet ghille+1/brutal epona/rajas (sorry for not making item set...at work on phone ><) and I was looking to add the new nomkahpa gloves but dont know if I should keep mask or replace with thaumas head. Just looking for the top TP set :)

Thaumas, generally.

So this is what my set looks like then. 25% haste.

If you don't have Toci's or Thaumas body what would you use for Imp down set to tide you over?

I believe Ocelomeh Harness would beat AF3+2 as long as your accuracy is capped after the swap (assuming you are also TP'ing in the head to activate the triple attack).

Anyone have any feedback to make my current TP set any better?

A dream for a MNK, which put a good efford into its build:



With Black belt and Thaumas coat, you can leave some pieces of your AF3 to meet haste cap.
To get a 9-rounds build, you need to equip Hagneia stone, Brutal, Rajas and Misuuchi kappa.
To get the next dmg tier you need to equip Faith torque.

Compared to a set every MNK should get, which put a moderate amount of efford into its build:



Without Black belt and Thaumas coat, you need to equip full AF3+2 to get near haste cap.
The rest meets the same criteria.
Now you have the neck slot open for any good piece you can get, e.g. Agasaya's, Rancor or Nefarious Collar.

Try and get tenyru+1 gloves augmented with 2 dbl attack. I use the triple attack +2 rings instead of rajas. I seldom land at 99 tp do to the rediculous amount of multiple attack equip. If you have any form of regain, it makes the triple attack a no brainer. And after that, just 99 your vere until the update.

For really really real--get the TP Bonus moonshade instead of regain.

Was under the impression the Kappa is only now used by SAMs who use P. Salade to TP in and Hagenia was the STP piece to lower xhit for a Vere

But the TP Bonus earring would only be something to WS with. I know that to much Double/Triple gimps Regain, but nontheless has its effect to WS more often.

Let's say you choose TP Bonus, what earring would you take, which offers more than just attack? Attack is important, but some food would do much more for your dmg.

Why should sTP have a negative effect on x-hit?

Theres so much triple/dbl store tp builds aside from mnk legs and brutal earring is redundant. Events that favor vere over Spharai you would have some for of regain on as well, further making x hit build for mnk less important.

At no point I sacrifice something important to get more TP from a hit. For all the used slots (Raja's, Misuuchi kappa and H. stone) I only sacrifice attack (and maybe 5% CH from Rancor mantle).

Isn't this thread titled "MNK TP set"? My WS set looks way different.

MNK h2h TP gain:

Base delay: 275 (with MNK AF3+2 body)
With Verethagna: 326 (163 per fist)

sTP 0 -> 4,8% -> 11 rounds
sTP 6 (MNK AF3+2 legs) -> 5% -> 10 rounds
sTP 18 (MNK AF3+2 legs, Brutal, Raja's, Misuuchi kappa and H. stone) -> 5,6% -> 9 rounds

My set is just advice, it's good advice but hey.. You don't have to take it, do whatever the hell ya wana do!!

You're not counting the TP obtained from using VS.

4 fold in Rajas + Brutal = 12.
Need 88 post WS to hit 100.
15 STP = 5.5 x 16 (or 8 rounds) = 88, so you should TP in Atheling.

Edited

When Berserk is up, would Tenryu Head +1 with any of the Haste augments be better to TP in over Ganesha's Mask?

Also curious as to wether or not Oneiros Ring is worth it.

More likely it doesn't.

Epona's is better than Oneiros Ring, so no.

Point of using Ganesha's during Berserk down is the extra attack, and STR during Berserk up for the extra fstr. That being said, if you can get 5% haste on Head +1, then yeah it's good. Compared to haste +4% or lower, you'd have to math it out.

Head is 6% on NQ result and 7% on HQ. As far as Oneiros Ring goes, I didn't ask how it compares to Epona's. I'm merely wondering if the 4 extra attacks/100 > 5 str 5 dex 5 stp.

That's a good point ;)

If you're not going for an x-hit I don't see how it's going to hurt.

(Didn't know possible augments on head) Those augments make head +1 a fantastic piece to use during Berserk up, and depending on the rest of the gear, might have a place with Berserk down.

I made the assumption Rajas would be the standard first ring. No, Rajas is better.


If using Brawny:
+31 delay, assuming you're using Shijin
Rajas + Brutal + 5 hit = 13 TP on WS
Need 87 TP to hit 100
5.5 x 16 (8 rounds) = 88 TP
Dropping Rajas =
5.2 x 17 = 88.4, otherwise x18 because you won't single punch.

So even with Brawny Rajas drops you a hit.

Now you could use Kappa over Atheling and Onieros over Rajas, but Atheling / Rajas have been shown to generally be the best items for their slots for the TP phase.