Fenrir.Pitunia said: »
Haha... I love how quickly this thread devolved into a borderline personal attack. Thanks to all those who made an attempt at answering my questions... cheers :)
Welcome to ffxiah! And I hope you got what you were after.
Which New Weapon Skills To Merit?
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Which new weapon skills to merit?
Welcome to ffxiah! And I hope you got what you were after.
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Reaffirming my decision to leave things as is. If my comments were taken as a personal attack, I see no reason to believe I would make even a dent in the issue.
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I was pretty sure it was just more or less saying don't assume you can't get a empy for being casual. I'm atm casually working on Kannagi. Going to claim guku when it's not camped especially with new content, then killing sobek here and there. Take it as you will /shrug
I typed up a long post, but all it really said was that people have different goals, standards, and a different idea of "fun" in FFXI (and life and general). If he doesn't want to work towards an empy, he doesn't have to... he can still have fun doing the things he enjoys most in this game without it.
In before the "well he should just play the game without gear then, lololol"
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Fairy.Ghaleon said: » Odin.Eikechi said: » Which polearm does Captain America approve of, for sam? lol In case you were being serious, Draca couse. Best you can get on sam at the moment sadly :(. And yes, the cap approves. lol Yes, I was lol. I was looking for a decent polearm for sam, to make my sam more versatile again. Fenrir.Vazerus said: » I typed up a long post, but all it really said was that people have different goals, standards, and a different idea of "fun" in FFXI (and life and general). If he doesn't want to work towards an empy, he doesn't have to... he can still have fun doing the things he enjoys most in this game without it. In before the "well he should just play the game without gear then, lololol" You seem to have forgotten that he made a thread requesting information on micro maximization. What I don't get is, why even respond to this thread if you don't want to help him with his question?
Unless you assume telling him he should get a vere is helping.
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Sylph.Kimble said: » What I don't get is, why even respond to this thread if you don't want to help him with his question? Unless you assume telling him he should get a vere is helping. Why do you assume getting a verethragna isn't helping? He was giving him an alternative, as was I, to think about. Everyone has their own ways of helping. People already stated what ws he should get based off that. Not much more you can offer in that department. Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: » Sylph.Kimble said: » What I don't get is, why even respond to this thread if you don't want to help him with his question? Unless you assume telling him he should get a vere is helping. Why do you assume getting a verethragna isn't helping? He was giving him an alternative, as was I, to think about. Everyone has their own ways of helping. People already stated what ws he should get based off that. Not much more you can offer in that department. No, the question was: is this a 'how do I improve my MNK' thread? No. This is a 'which WSs should I merit? Here are my jobs:...'
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Fenrir.Minjo said: » Fenrir.Vazerus said: » I typed up a long post, but all it really said was that people have different goals, standards, and a different idea of "fun" in FFXI (and life and general). If he doesn't want to work towards an empy, he doesn't have to... he can still have fun doing the things he enjoys most in this game without it. In before the "well he should just play the game without gear then, lololol" You seem to have forgotten that he made a thread requesting information on micro maximization. Quite the opposite actually, I just wanted to know which WSs weren't a waste of merits w/o getting into the finer points of, "well, if you already have weapon A, coupled with pieces B, C and D, and you're in situation E as opposed to F, then weapon skill G will out perform weapon skill H." That's pretty much all I could find on forums... and that's perfectly fine, it's a very valid conversation, and one that, years ago, I would have loved pouring over in my spare time. It's that kind of stuff that makes me appreciate this game and its incredible depth. But now, 8 years in, I suppose you could say I've lost my patience for many aspects of the game and jumping though SE's hoops (like collecting 50 Ulhuadshi Fangs). So, since of lost my taste for certain finer aspects of the game, I tried (although, possibly, unsuccessfully) to frame my question as a "casual" player. If you're not comfortable and/or able to give a generalized answer, that's fine too. However, implying that it's wrong of me to even ask such a question is pretentious at best. In conclusion... happy holidays :)
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Quote: I'm disinterested in changing any one person's choices on such a fundamental level, but it also begs the question of why he's unable or unwilling to seek partnership in a game that is relatively unforgiving to those who choose to disassociate themselves from the rest of the playerbase. I'm not prepared to tell anyone that their Lone Ranger playstyle is inappropriate, because it's well within their rights, but as I said, pragmaticism isn't isolated. Pragmaticism? Really? I just can't take you seriously if this is the kind of nonsense you think makes you appear intelligent. Seems like looking down your nose has caused you to go cross-eyed.
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Its astonishing how quickly "...he's well within his rights..." turns into an implicit attack on the legitimacy of your priorities. I didn't think or imply that there was an issue with your question. I explicitly said that I didn't care to change your in-game decisions. My only quarrel, which is an overstatement in and of itself, was with the inappropriate and often cited established dogma that casual players cannot create Empyrean weapons.
When so many of you take from my posts exactly what it is you want to, its no wonder I'm so often called condescending. Fenrir.Minjo said: » Its astonishing how quickly "...he's well within his rights..." turns into an implicit attack on the legitimacy of your priorities. I didn't think or imply that there was an issue with your question. I explicitly said that I didn't care to change your in-game decisions. My only quarrel, which is an overstatement in and of itself, was with the inappropriate and often cited established dogma that casual players cannot create Empyrean weapons. When so many of you take from my posts exactly what it is you want to, its no wonder I'm so often called condescending. Check your tone, douche-whistle. (btw - "Pragmaticism" isn't a word) That is all.
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Lectures me on forum etiquette, then calls me names.
I'm the one being rude?
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Fenrir.Minjo said: » I explicitly said that I didn't care to change your in-game decisions. My only quarrel, which is an overstatement in and of itself, was with the inappropriate and often cited established dogma that casual players cannot create Empyrean weapons. Whatever logic brings you to the latter, need to be eviscerated.
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Fenrir.Minjo said: » Lectures me on forum etiquette, then calls me names. I'm the one being rude? I never accused you of being rude. I accused you of being a condescending pseudo-intellectual. You are actually quite polite about it. :)
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Leviathan.Iphigenia said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Its astonishing how quickly "...he's well within his rights..." turns into an implicit attack on the legitimacy of your priorities. I didn't think or imply that there was an issue with your question. I explicitly said that I didn't care to change your in-game decisions. My only quarrel, which is an overstatement in and of itself, was with the inappropriate and often cited established dogma that casual players cannot create Empyrean weapons. When so many of you take from my posts exactly what it is you want to, its no wonder I'm so often called condescending. Check your tone, douche-whistle. (btw - "Pragmaticism" isn't a word) That is all. The audacity you must have to continue to critique my manners while using personal attacks. Quote: The audacity you must have to continue to critique my manners while using personal attacks. I thought this was a very nice thread before you stank it up with imaginary words and elitist jabbering. Honestly I'd add that you're pretentious as well, but I don't believe I know you well enough to make that claim. Besides, points for any Stephen Fry reference, however unrelated to my claims. Cheers.
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Sometimes I feel as if this website has its own spin on the Trueman Show. I explicitly said that I'm not interested in changing anyone's playstyle, because there's zero inherent issue in it. I explicitly said that his question was a perfectly legitimate one, and that I wished to deter it no longer. Then you roll in and call me a "douche-whistle", and I'm the antagonist. This is lunacy.
Its cuz you don't provide constructive criticism and if you do, its in a really condescending tone
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You can like each other's posts all you like. The fact remains that I not only specified that there's no reason to force him to make a lick of adjustment, but that there was additionally nothing wrong with his question. A portion of my posts were hypothetical, and in regard to something said by a different person entirely.
But hey, keep calling me names while telling me that I'm a meany. I enjoy non sequitur. Fenrir.Minjo said: » Sometimes I feel as if this website has its own spin on the Trueman Show. I explicitly said that I'm not interested in changing anyone's playstyle, because there's zero inherent issue in it. I explicitly said that his question was a perfectly legitimate one, and that I wished to deter it no longer. Then you roll in and call me a "douche-whistle", and I'm the antagonist. This is lunacy. "Its cuz you don't provide constructive criticism and if you do, its in a really condescending tone" This above, and a thousand times this... I challenge any of you to explicitly show that I was being condescending and not just taking greater advantage of language, as I very much enjoy. Please.
This thread is very silly.
This whole page was pretty much arguing with Minjo. Well done. Fenrir.Minjo said: » I challenge any of you to explicitly show that I was being condescending and not just taking greater advantage of language, as I very much enjoy. Please. Also Fenrir.Minjo said: » It's astonishing how quickly... All this being said, thank you for the contributions that you do undeniably make to the forums.^^
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Way to derail it. Again. Should just get a mod to nuke the threads everytime he or someone else starts this
Fenrir.Minjo said: » You can like each other's posts all you like. The fact remains that I not only specified that there's no reason to force him to make a lick of adjustment, but that there was additionally nothing wrong with his question. A portion of my posts were hypothetical, and in regard to something said by a different person entirely. But hey, keep calling me names while telling me that I'm a meany. I enjoy non sequitur. I don't dislike you or think you are the least bit mean. You are careless in your use of language and have a lofty attitude. I didn't feel you were being helpful to the OP. That's really all there is to this. You can stop acting hard done by. The name calling (and it wasn't really so bad was it?) stopped with a single post. Why continue to wreck this thread by being oblivious to some very constructive advice? Your words and how you arrange them say as much about how you feel about your audience as the message you supposedly intended. Be well. Alexander.Carrelo said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » I challenge any of you to explicitly show that I was being condescending and not just taking greater advantage of language, as I very much enjoy. Please. Also Fenrir.Minjo said: » It's astonishing how quickly... All this being said, thank you for the contributions that you do undeniably make to the forums.^^ That's funny, because I could have sworn the words you've take issue with were used after I was told I was being rude. Context makes all of the difference. And again, I'm having my grammar corrected on a forum while being called condescending. As I said, lunacy. |
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