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 Cerberus.Maeldiar
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2011-12-23 18:56:06
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So I camped Khim today and his wings broke immediately and never repaired. Even waited for about 5 mins with no damage on him and they never fixed.

I ended up dying from fulmi but one of the blu left alive actually learned the spell. He never used it once. He's ls mate so I doubt he lied and i even had him cast it in front of me.

Planning to make a tyger set after that fight but I'm wondering if anyone else experienced the same.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-12-23 18:57:56
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Might be best off attempting to learn this Blue Magic from the Nyzul Isle version of Khimaira. Just an idea.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-12-23 19:00:36
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Hes lying or you didn't see the ws go off, if it never used you won't learn it. Don't melee it until it does tourbillion so you don't risk breaking the wings. I had a blu I was with in the FL assault use 1 dmg clubs and broke the wings, just use spells (not heavy strike or CA certain spells).
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By Lakshmi.Galith 2011-12-23 19:11:16
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The FL Assault Bellaphoon's Bliss is a good way to learn it tho the goblin has to roll a 1-1 to get him to do the move which is a 1/36 chance. Makes it somewhat frustrating but I think it's the easiest option.

Outside that you're left with Nyzul which you will have a 1/3 chance to have ~10mins to get the mob to use the move, TOAU Shantoto mission which means you have to have someone on the mission and have them exit the mission before shantoto 2hrs and destroys the khim, ZNM Khimmy, or just camp khim.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2011-12-23 19:19:07
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He has no reason to lie, he was even in the middle of something and dropped it to run to khim. As soon as it was killed he said "wow i learned it". Was there myself the whole time and never saw tourbillion used.
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-12-23 19:30:17
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Someone said the same thing earlier for GoH where our cerb didnt use it once (we all forgot floor 60 version doesnt use it).
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2011-12-23 19:31:11
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2011-12-23 19:37:41
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would save a lot of headaches.. might even go and try blu on apadamak and see if i learn lol
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-12-23 19:41:23
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Prob only spells that need UL active or HNM mob spells that this works, never heard of this before and kinda doubt they changed it so it works for all spells I think this was intentional and not a glitch. Also i imagine everyone is going 1/1 - 1/3 on these new HNM spells from what ive experienced so perhaps if they do use the tp move too there is higher learn rate than other non HNM spells.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-23 19:48:22
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Screenshot of him using Tourbillion?
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-12-23 19:50:05
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Point is there isnt as screenshot of him using it, have to screenshot whole fight to prove he didnt use it and still learnt it.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-23 20:05:01
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I meant the guy who claims to have learned the spell, though obviously the whole thing is pretty suspect regardless. >99% chance one person or the other is wrong about what happened in that fight.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-23 20:10:01
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
could be a glitch. but if not and they designed it now so a blu can learn a spell just by clashing swords with that mob type, would be interesting

lol
please
this is the same dev team that designed grounds of valor caskets
like they're going to make something easier just to be nice
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-12-23 20:10:23
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I dont understand, someone posts saying they learnt the spell even though khim didnt use the tp move and screenshotted them learning it with several other people also testifying that it didnt use tourbillion. Then you said "screenshot of him using it?" ... there wouldnt be a screenshot of him using it though because the point is he didnt use it but the spell was still learnt. Same thing someone in my group experienced with a cerb I fought earlier and GoH. It might be a glitch but its not suspect, nothing in my log was missed it 100% didnt use GoH.
 
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-12-23 20:18:11
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You can't learn a spell w/o the mob using it, someone is wrong here or there's a glitch.
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-12-23 20:21:05
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Yes we know thats already been established, 2 parties witnessed it though so its either intentional or a glitch, we arent both wrong.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-23 20:30:42
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Sylph.Krsone said: »
I dont understand, someone posts saying they learnt the spell even though khim didnt use the tp move and screenshotted them learning it with several other people also testifying that it didnt use tourbillion. Then you said "screenshot of him using it?" ... there wouldnt be a screenshot of him using it though because the point is he didnt use it but the spell was still learnt. Same thing someone in my group experienced with a cerb I fought earlier and GoH. It might be a glitch but its not suspect, nothing in my log was missed it 100% didnt use GoH.
Screenshot of Reiv casting the spell Tourbillion. Clear now?

EDIT: Didn't catch your initial post about someone learning GoH.
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-12-23 20:35:58
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Is np I was just confused by your confusion, dont see why you'd want screenie of him casting it too though theres already enough proof imo in that screenshot of Reiv learning it.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-23 20:43:54
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Oh wow, double fail on my part. I didn't see the learn message, assumed it was a SS by the OP so I skipped straight to chat.
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-12-23 20:46:50
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Ahhh lol.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2011-12-23 20:54:35
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the SS was given to me by reiv, i posted it to further prove my case
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By Carbuncle.Ianpyst 2011-12-23 22:54:19
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
could be a glitch. but if not and they designed it now so a blu can learn a spell just by clashing swords with that mob type, would be interesting

Going to guess it's a glitch. This used to happen a few rare times to people years ago too.

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During a long spell shopping spree with a friend, we were not learning a spell, pollen to be exact. In a fit of frustration, I called a GM. The first question he asked me was HOW MANY MEMBERS of that monster family had i killed in total. Not HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SEEN THE SPELL USED. We learned the spell shortly after. Last night while shopping again , My friend learned a spell, Uppercut, from a Mob that didnt even use the spell. But it had been used on him previously. I added the edit noting the possiblity that the number of monsters from that family may be a determining factor in learning a spell as long as it has been used on you. More testing is obviously needed, but considering what the GM asked and what has been witnessed first hand I feel it is a legit edit. --MIKUMARU 14:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

This is on the talk page for Blue Mage.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-12-24 13:30:46
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Do Khimaira 14X's wings ever go back up?
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By Cerberus.Deadplaything 2011-12-24 13:44:39
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I notice sometimes certain monsters abilities do not show up in the chat log when you have certain filters up a few I noticed were Ballistic kick, Gates of Hades Fulmination, Tourbillion, I know there are a few more. Its been that way since I started the game just certain chat filters you will not see it say Cerberus readies Gates of hades. Check your filters.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2011-12-24 14:13:38
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Another ls mate was tanking, he never saw it either or received the defense down effect. The wings never returned to normal but some other idiots were still beating on it so the wings never had a chance to repair. they got off at ~25% so maybe it was already in fulmi mode.
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By Dzapa 2011-12-24 15:54:43
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Other night, me and 3 other BLUs attempted to learn Toubillion from AU22: Shield of Diplomacy. Entered the mission 10 times, and Tourbillion was used 8/10. No-one learned the spell though. Is this extremely bad luck on our parts, or is it not possible to learn the spell from this NM? I asked several people, and they said you should be able to learn spells from mission NMs. I can also confirm that the finishing blow was dealt by a party member, and not Shantotto.
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By Quiznor 2011-12-24 16:35:06
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Dzapa said: »
Other night, me and 3 other BLUs attempted to learn Toubillion from AU22: Shield of Diplomacy. Entered the mission 10 times, and Tourbillion was used 8/10. No-one learned the spell though. Is this extremely bad luck on our parts, or is it not possible to learn the spell from this NM? I asked several people, and they said you should be able to learn spells from mission NMs. I can also confirm that the finishing blow was dealt by a party member, and not Shantotto.

Going through the motions here

Blue Skill at the time of death?
AF1 hands at time of death?
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By Leviathan.Dzapa 2011-12-24 16:49:21
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Hands were worn by all BLUs, skill at death was ~467. This is the last spell I need. Logically, since I learned all the other spells, this one should be learnable also.
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