[Dev] Four New Weapon Skills Revealed

It's all about those weeks that come so often where you don't have work or school or any obligations whatsoever and you have a WHM indentured servant.

Just throwing this out there. The GK ws looks like he is jumping and cleaving downwards. Kinda the opposite of Gekko... sweet either way..

oh wait.. by a week Minjo meant 168 hours of farming collectively guys... :P

Sexy Scythe WS SE since this is your last level up WS my hopes are riding on this for DRK... Please make this WS worthy. The community knows DRK needs some TLC!

Elaborate upon this, please. Bought outright, the two shields will go for a similar price. The 12-day gap imposed by the goblin creates an artificial extension which isn't really present with Ochain. Beyond that, I'm not sure what we're defining "difficulty" as. Farming currency is a joke, and competition for T2/3 VNM is fierce, especially on the easiest of the three options in Ule. Maere is simple enough with an outside healer. Brulo can be extremely unforgiving unless one takes extraordinary measures to insure that there are never any mishaps.

Overall, Ochain can certainly be completely in the fewest days(although the actual time spent on it will likely be considerably less), but its far from easier.

A spent a few hours a day on it. That's casual farming.

Still waiting for the promised DRG buffs. I hope the buffs aren't just level 96+ stuff, otherwise it's not really a buff since EVERY job is going to get something new. They explicitly said DRG would get buffed after the Wyvern Buff update, after they finalized THF SCH PUP buffs and WAR nerfs(and all those are done)

Iron plates took a few hours on the first day, colorless souls took ~6 days on a fairly consistent 2-3 hour basis, and the Azdaja trials were finished in a few hours on the last day. My group consisted of a WHM, NIN, MNK, and THF(never engaged). My NIN was mostly useless, it just seemed like a productive way to level 90-95.

There is literally no way you killed 25 iron clads in "a few hours" and got doubles on all. NM killing for 2x KI per ironclad + the ironclad + non-double drops.... dude come on lol

KI? Ironclad Sunderer.

I call ***.
Been doing Ochain 'casually' for a little while, on and off, Ironclads take a while. Souls drain you, horribly (havent seen how hard it is to upgrade since they changed the KI' and Azdaja is a ***.

You've got quite a warped sense of time.

Do the timetable yourself, then. The most time-intensive aspect of Ironclad Sunderer was leaving the zone to buy more pop items. It took in the neighborhood of three hours to complete.

even if you went the sunderer route, there is still the single drop kills...gtfo lol.. 3 hours for 50 plates

Ironclad takes no time at all with a good DD and the wallet to purchase pop items. Colorless Souls' drop rate on Brulo is incredibly high(eyeball ~80% double with TH6). Cleaving Grauberg for on of the two KI in the zone while Wildfire chaining Azdaja is laughable.

I dont think its at all a stretch to say that ironclads could be knocked out in a few hours. I did most of mine in 1 night. However I dont know if it could be done by a "casual" player. When I think of casual players I think of people that have average gear and probably dont find it worth having a mule. So while a "hard core" player like myself can team up with 1 friend and have 2 amazing ukons, a twashar thf mule, and a whm mule and casuaully knock out an ochain in a week, a casual player cant do the same.

Exaggeration to the extreme.

Napkinmath disagrees with you. ~70-75% double rate, a couple minutes per kill, 3-4 minutes to grab new pop items. Feel free grab a calculator and prove it unreasonable.

Everyone wants to claim exaggeration, nobody wants to take the minute it takes to use a calculator and prove the contrary.

It's because numbers you are giving are bull.

They can't just "take a calculator" if they think your numbers are exaggerations.. That's the point lol. That's hardly "casual" to be non-stop farming, and non-stop cleaving with Arma cor/rngs chaining that dragon....

I don't really think it's unreasonable about the plates, but the souls on the other hand...VNMs suck, they're heavily camped at almost all times and you need to farm the abyssites which is additional timesink.

Prove it.

2-3 minutes every four pops(excluding the initial), a maximum of 5 minutes to kill an Ironclad, a minute for the ??? to respawn(excluding the initial on every wave of four).

In a perfect world with unlimited pops on the AH and no VNM competition while farming all 3 zones at once for T3 pops, sure. I'm still calling BS on 75 azdaja in 3 hours with that few pop holders though.

Your numbers also account for ZERO competition, on any T3 VNM, which have a ***respawn too lol and upgrading KIs like we've mentioned before

You're trying to treat two independent designations as the same entity. I said farming casually. I'm not talking about casual players. I am not a casual player. When I play, I play intensively, because I want my goals accomplished in the shortest amount of time. I casually farmed Ochain in the sense that very little total time per day was spent on it. Casual players do not get Empyrean weapons. There's nothing unusual about having a friend who can cleave for a few hours for you, nor is there anything unusual about having a friend who can brew down an extended chain of dragons for you. These are not extraordinary measures. That requires two friends, and Wildfire is incredibly commonplace.

If you're looking for figures based on people who run around in full Perle, I'm afraid I can't help you. You're asking for unreasonable circumstances.

Plates maybe, Souls No.

[Dev] Four New Weapon Skills Revealed

i thought that was what this thread was gonna be about. and updates on new ws as they come out. i didnt know it would turn into a cryfest of ppl who dont believe someone did something so fast.

if ur gonna continue crying about specifics then create a thread called "I just cant believe its not butter because he did his ochain in 1 week." and go debate and run ur numbers there. stop filling up this thread with ur useless arguing,

who cares if u dont believe he did it in a week. his point was ochain is a joke to get anyways, as is aegis if u have the gil. so saying one is "harder" is just HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. cause fact is they arnt hard at all.

also who cares if it took him 10 days instead of the 7 he said. he still did it in 20-30 hours of playtime...

now lets get back on topic which is "SE is gonna fail us on these new ws and if they are better than the emp on dmg then ima cry because i spent 2 days to get it and i want it to be justified even though my aftermath will pull my dmg ahead D:" and stuffs like that.

now my 2cents on drk ws. i want 4 hit crit ws that drains hp according to dmg!

~80 T3 VNM can be spawned in one of the three zones in 20 hours.

~240 T3 VNM can be spawned in all applicable zones in 20 hours.

~100 T2 VNM can be spawned in one of the three zones in 20 hours.

~300 T2 VNM can be spawned in all applicable zones in 20 hours.

Feel free to refute any of this based on actual numbers. The "lol no u cant" is getting tired.

I finished Ochain and Almace in 1 day. Farming 2hrs a day. True story