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D ring gil value?
Leviathan.Draugo
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-11-27 00:43:34
dring would cost more than a Relic, that's for sure. As for augmented dark rings, yes those cap most jobs(all jobs?), but dring opens up more flexibility and optimization.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-11-27 00:47:25
I'd charge 180m but I'd get the person who is buying to buy the pop item for it first regardless of if it dropped or not.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-27 01:04:19
I'd charge 180m but I'd get the person who is buying to buy the pop item for it first regardless of if it dropped or not.
Then what exactly are you selling? Cuz KB isn't THAT hard...
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By Siren.Mcmurdles 2011-11-27 02:43:57
I just went 1/1 on this mind you 1/20~ in shank upgrades.. is it possible drop % has gone up or im just a very lucky taru? Either way reading this kinda makes me wish i'd sold it and got a couple relics :/ lol
By Powerslave 2011-11-27 05:00:48
I'd charge 180m but I'd get the person who is buying to buy the pop item for it first regardless of if it dropped or not.
Not sure if trolling....
Or just plain stupid.
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By Brolli 2011-11-27 05:09:47
the ring drops like rain now, it's no longer 5% almost every pld on my server haves one, kraken club drop rate got modified too? cause i see lots of people wearing it
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-11-27 05:14:37
the ring drops like rain now, it's no longer 5% almost every pld on my server haves one, kraken club drop rate got modified too? cause i see lots of people wearing it
proof? i call male cow feces.
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2011-11-27 05:22:48
the ring drops like rain now, it's no longer 5% almost every pld on my server haves one, kraken club drop rate got modified too? cause i see lots of people wearing it Sorry for the cliche but...
No.
KB's are more readily available to fight/kill but that ring doesn't drop like rain.
Statistics, they're a ***.
By Brolli 2011-11-27 05:23:42
i seen more than 18+ drings i think, on my server, native form lakshmi, and like 2 transfered.
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2011-11-27 05:25:18
i seen more than 18+ drings i think, on my server, native form lakshmi, and like 2 transfered. Its damn near 2012 with a whole lot of server merges, that's not unbelievable.
By Brolli 2011-11-27 05:26:17
bleh just saying
By Brolli 2011-11-27 05:26:59
isn't double dark rings with 6% bonuses better for pld?
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2011-11-27 05:30:40
isn't double dark rings with 6% bonuses better for pld? As said before 2 666 Dark rings would be better for PDT/MDT but I'd rather have a D. Ring
and spare a ring slot for added utility.
Edit: Internets or site died while I was typing that.
My only real point is that it doesn't drop like like rain.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2011-11-27 05:59:03
No 2 dark rings give dt-12% but a dring and a dark ring gives dt-16%. No idea where people get that 2 dark rings are better than a dring and a dark ring. If you are comparing 2 rings against one its a bit silly there is a free slot for another ring like the 90hp ring or w/e you want to use.
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By Quiznor 2011-11-27 06:32:32
isn't double dark rings with 6% bonuses better for pld?
Perfect Dark Ring = 6% MDT 6% PDT 6% BDT x2 = 12% MDT 12% PDT 12% BDT
Defending Ring 10% DT + Minerva's Ring 8% MDT = MDT-18%....which is better than 12% from 2 dark rings for MDT.
Defending Ring 10% DT + Dark Ring 6% PDT = 16% PDT....which is better than 12% from 2 dark rings for PDT.
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2011-11-27 06:32:51
Yeah, at 4am or w/e my thoughts are a bit convoluted.
2 Dark rings wouldn't be better, they'd be easier (even that is time/luck based)
I was comparing the option of farming 2 quality Dark rings over the chance at a D.Ring. I'd rather have a D. Ring and spare a ring slot for added utility. As for the OP, I'd still pay a pretty penny for the ring.
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-11-27 06:34:23
Seen some dude shout to buy dring for 100m on Cerb lately
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-11-27 06:40:56
It would cost you about 200mil + labor to "farm" one just by buying HQ pops, which may actually be the cheapest way to get one.
Ragnarok.Nekonarf
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-11-27 06:58:36
isn't double dark rings with 6% bonuses better for pld?
Perfect Dark Ring = 6% MDT 6% PDT 6% BDT x2 = 12% MDT 12% PDT 12% BDT
Defending Ring 10% DT + Minerva's Ring 8% MDT = MDT-18%....which is better than 12% from 2 dark rings for MDT.
Defending Ring 10% DT + Dark Ring 6% PDT = 16% PDT....which is better than 12% from 2 dark rings for PDT.
If you're rocking defending ring in a MDT set, most likely you could drop Minerva's for Shadow, which is gonna do so much more for you when you're capped, and on just about every job, that's a hell of a lot easier to do.
By Quiznor 2011-11-27 07:15:04
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »isn't double dark rings with 6% bonuses better for pld?
Perfect Dark Ring = 6% MDT 6% PDT 6% BDT x2 = 12% MDT 12% PDT 12% BDT
Defending Ring 10% DT + Minerva's Ring 8% MDT = MDT-18%....which is better than 12% from 2 dark rings for MDT.
Defending Ring 10% DT + Dark Ring 6% PDT = 16% PDT....which is better than 12% from 2 dark rings for PDT.
If you're rocking defending ring in a MDT set, most likely you could drop Minerva's for Shadow, which is gonna do so much more for you when you're capped, and on just about every job, that's a hell of a lot easier to do.
I know that,I'm just posting the numbers between dual dark rings and other % based rings.Not sets or better options,etc
Carbuncle.Blazer
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By Carbuncle.Blazer 2011-11-27 09:54:19
Quote: Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »I wouldn't spend more than 10m on a dring. It was worth way more before because it was a lot harder back in the day to get -% damage equip. Now there's a lot more equipment for -% damage bringing down the value substantially.
good luck farming highlands for days on end for 666 dark ring....then get 2, and its BARELY better than 1 d ring... k Not only that but anyone who is going to be buying a d ring is probably the type that is looking to push their gear to the very best of what is available. This is a lot more involved than getting 50% pdt or mdt. You can cap quite easily on many jobs but that sure as hell won't be an optimal build.
Plus, 10 mil is a joke, it's retardedly easy to make gil now. If you could buy one for 10 mil, even I'd be up there doing it... The rarity and difficulty to obtain pops drives the price up. It might not be worth it to many but I guess those who it isn't have other things that gil can actually be used to get. -Spending days to farm for two 6-6-6 rings is definitely a more viable option compared to paying some of the ridiculous prices some people are throwing up for a d-ring.
-You can cap 50% mdt/pdt in the same build on paladin with way less effort/money than obtaining a d-ring. In the best possible build wouldn't you rather dual archon ring/shadow ring instead of worrying about a 10% reduction in mdt when it's so easy to cap mdt without using ring slots? I honestly can't see the value in a d-ring when everyone knows the main point of it is for mdt.
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By Shiva.Francisco 2011-11-27 10:09:59
Price all depends how much gil I had, really... if I had 999,999,999 gil and all the relics/emps I wanted, I'd drop up to 200m on it... even if I think that's an overpay.
As a monk, I wouldn't especially need it... PDT is pretty easy to cap so not worried there... the value is more in MDT.
Tantra+2/Twilight/Brutal/Merman's
Avalon/Denali/Dark6/Shadow
Mollusca/BlkBlt/Tantra+2/Tantra+2
= -25% MDT (roughly capped with Shell V), 25% Haste, Occ. Null Damage... I like the idea of keeping Haste capped on a MDT set for ***that just spams spells/AoEs...
That's currently the set I'm working on... still need a couple of pieces.
Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-11-27 10:10:23
I honestly can't see the value in a d-ring when everyone knows the main point of it is for mdt.
huh?
Carbuncle.Blazer
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By Carbuncle.Blazer 2011-11-27 10:18:42
I honestly can't see the value in a d-ring when everyone knows the main point of it is for mdt.
huh?
I meant nothing in the game does physical damage attacks so backbreaking that a benefit of 4% through a ring (considering optimal pdt of dring + darkring vs dual darkrings) is worth the price.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-11-27 10:26:47
I'd charge 180m but I'd get the person who is buying to buy the pop item for it first regardless of if it dropped or not.
Then what exactly are you selling? Cuz KB isn't THAT hard...
Selling the ring? And they would have to buy the shank too before we popped it... whats so hard about this. (Total price 185m ish)
Fairy.Spence
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-11-27 10:33:11
So you charge 180m for killing KB? Sounds fair.
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-11-27 10:36:40
I'd charge 180m but I'd get the person who is buying to buy the pop item for it first regardless of if it dropped or not.
Then what exactly are you selling? Cuz KB isn't THAT hard...
Selling the ring? And they would have to buy the shank too before we popped it... whats so hard about this. (Total price 185m ish)
I'm a little confused. You're saying they buy the pop, then they pay you if ring drops?
That's kinda silly...
Phoenix.Neosutra
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-11-27 10:54:18
Hey KB is hard guys and people are paying for it to be killed for them, not for the ridiculously low drop rate item off a NM that's popped via another rare pop item..
On a serious note: Not counting random kills throughout the years before the HNM update, currently about 0/32 on rings off KBs since update. Done spending money of shitty overpriced pops. Hate this new system.
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By Garuda.Poetsave 2011-11-27 10:54:31
After seeing this topic in the forum I now see D Ring is the 3rd top viewed item.
To me this says there is a lot of people playing FFXI who didn't know what D Ring was.
Which to me means there is a "generation" of players playing now who don't understand how hard it used to be to get D Ring.
Bismarck.Angeleus
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2011-11-27 10:57:59
What year are we in right now?
What would you be willing to pay or do you believe the value of a D Ring would be if sellable?
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