[Dev] Enhancing Elemental Spirits Response

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[Dev] Enhancing Elemental Spirits Response
 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-09 16:25:13
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11-09-2011 04:13 PM
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We are currently looking into enhancing elemental spirits.

However, rather than simply adjusting their behavior, we feel that everyone might enjoy things a bit more if we were to do something different, so we feel this is a bit low on the priority scale. However, if you feel differently please let us know!
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By Inuyasha 2011-11-09 16:28:49
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rather than simply adjusting their behavior
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if we were to do something different
hrm....
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By Leviathan.Narshe 2011-11-09 16:28:58
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My spirits hate me :( I have capped smn magic skill and a crap load of +skill gear and they never cast spells ;-; my ice ele attempted a freeze once but that was it.
 
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2011-11-09 17:09:49
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Let me get this straight:

"We wanted you to know that we're going to adjust summoned spirits in some way.

...But just so you know, we don't really care about the issue all that much, so don't expect anything to change."
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-11-09 17:29:42
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Pretty much. Not happy.
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By Odin.Minefield 2011-11-09 17:32:03
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I actually sat in Thickets one time, I had a Ice Spirit fighting a spider, it took nearly 5min to even cast something remotely helpful :(.

.../starts casting Freeze..../interrupted.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2011-11-09 17:35:08
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Only thing spirits are good for is sipon, by the time they decide to cast anything they`ve already wasted half of your MP.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-09 17:42:33
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Odin.Minefield said: »
I actually sat in Thickets one time, I had a Ice Spirit fighting a spider, it took nearly 5min to even cast something remotely helpful :(.

.../starts casting Freeze..../interrupted.

And your current Fin avatar really suits your rage with elemental spirits, well lol
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2011-11-09 17:44:46
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Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Pretty much. Not happy.

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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-11-09 17:56:56
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I think this means "we have no *** idea what to do, so we're going to sleep on it for a while."

To be honest, it's better than when they just get a random(-)***(-)idea and then go through with it without thinking about how it should work or if it will be useful or not.

Scarlet Delirium says hi.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-11-09 18:06:45
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Rather to make other adjustments to SMN than spirits anyways.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-11-09 18:19:08
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The only adjustment to SMN that I would like to see is to lower the BP delay cap to 30s instead of 45.
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-11-09 23:33:55
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I don't know what they could do "different." They're giving other jobs more and more control over their pets (BST choosing pet TP moves, wyvern pet commands, revamped automaton AI), yet we're still completely at the mercy of Spirits' shoddy AI. Unless they want to add BPs for Spirits, I don't see what they could possibly do. Spirits' Favor?
 
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By Kryztal 2011-11-09 23:50:55
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Take a lesson from http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Vee_Qiqa_the_Decreer and let smns cast 2 or 3 elementals at one time, for same mp cost. Their AI sucks anyways, so having more could offset their crappy AI?
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-11-09 23:56:04
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I read OP and I got:
"we played with elemental's AI, and broke it, deal with it"
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-09 23:58:20
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Bismarck.Misao said: »
I read OP and I got:
"we played with elemental's AI, and broke it, deal with it"
That's the spirit! (heh)

Keep adding more until the broken pieces fit together :o
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-11-10 00:59:20
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Kryztal said: »
Take a lesson from http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Vee_Qiqa_the_Decreer and let smns cast 2 or 3 elementals at one time, for same mp cost. Their AI sucks anyways, so having more could offset their crappy AI?

I don't know, I'd take quality over quantity. If they can completely revamp automaton AI, why not spirits?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-11-10 03:41:45
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Dawnn casts Dark Elemental.
The Dark Elemental casts Sleepga on the Kindred Summoner.
(Dawnn) Hell yeah!
The Dark Elemental casts Bio on the Kindred Summoner.
(Dawnn) ...
The Kindred Summoner uses Astral Flow.
Dawnn was defeated by the Kindred Summoner.
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By Soranika 2011-11-10 08:44:16
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Unlike one smn in particular on the official forums, all that really translate to me is "We notice elemental spirits are crap, but we're not gonna do a damn thing about them yet."

Which is fine by me. I don't see why elemental spirits need an update. Maybe reduction of their recast timer cause they cast magic god forsakenly slow... but really?