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 Cerberus.Deadplaything
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By Cerberus.Deadplaything 2011-10-17 04:48:39
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Been camping Bugbear Strongman for over 13 hours now. Not one pop Killing the correct place holders as well. I have other people here who have killed before as well. Are there any other people having issues with this? It doesn't help the repop on Place holders is 15 minutes either. And before speculation I am in the right camp and Killing the correct place holders.

10 seconds later he pops I think the gm got tired of me crying to him.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-17 04:57:54
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explanation of your observation
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By Cerberus.Deadplaything 2011-10-17 05:43:40
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Well this nms PNG. if I may is rediculous.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-10-17 06:40:46
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why I gave up on twashtar >:
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By LoremIpsum 2011-10-17 06:41:52
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ill agree with that dodgy NM. 2/4 with over 48 hours of camping i gave up.
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By Valefor.Hayleyrose 2011-10-17 06:45:51
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I got lucky and 2/4 instantly then waited 5hrs for 3/4 then 10hrs 4/4 :/
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-10-17 06:47:20
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Asura.Ludoggy said: »
why I gave up on twashtar >:

Black Triple Stars is about 127x more annoying than bugbear.
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By Asura.Revear 2011-10-17 07:08:09
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last time took 14 hours for 4/4. Atm 0/4 with 18 hours lol. Least i have a alt to play on HOOOOD
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-10-17 07:16:18
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Hovering



Hotpot










21 hour pop
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-17 07:17:11
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Shiva.Xellith said: »
Asura.Ludoggy said: »
why I gave up on twashtar >:

Black Triple Stars is about 127x more annoying than bugbear.

ApRadar, go!
Seriously though, 3rd party tools are terrible and you shouldn't use them ever.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-10-17 07:33:27
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Apradar doesnt help him to pop. 15 Hours+ and no spawn = sad panda. (I was in a pt that camped him none stop replacing members and people sleeping in shifts. Popped 3 times in 4 days)
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By Valefor.Hayleyrose 2011-10-17 07:35:58
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Someone with Jap button did my Tripleblackstars
I spent 5 nights camping no pop, teamed up with them, double pops on night
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By Oumura 2011-10-17 07:39:40
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OMG Hovering Hotpot made Bugbear Strongman seem like cake. At least there are two instances of Strongman, and from personal experience its fairly easy to get him to pop back to back.

Took me 4 days to get Hovering Hotpot done back when I did dagger and another 4 for the gun. ><;
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By Cerberus.Deadplaything 2011-10-17 07:40:06
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I sent a gm a message even though I knew they would toss my message, they responded saying please ask fellow players and friends about pop conditions, bla blah blah, so i responded back with one more gm message this time they didnt send a message back, It pretty much said I wasn't born yesterday I am aware of how this nm pops I know what to do I know I have been here 13 hours something isnt right fix it.
5 minutes later the nms pop. IT popped back to back to back x3 within 1.5 hours now im on number 4 and its been over an hour so please dont be 13 hurs again.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2011-10-17 07:56:48
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FFXIclopedia said:
Has taken over 10 hours to spawn before. 7/13/11 - 12 hours now and counting.

Have to assume that was there before.

Other people have your weapon. Have to assume they suffered through it, too.

Sorry it didn't pop back to back to back when you zoned in, though. I really am.
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By macsdf1 2011-10-26 08:48:17
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I killed 4 strongmans in 4 hours, this was on a day after a maint though if that matters.

stupid hotpot wont spawn now.
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By Willi 2011-10-26 09:06:36
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I had to do both Bugbear and Hotpot trials twice for Gun and Dagger. HUGE /wrist ;- ;
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-10-26 09:08:12
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Meh, I've camped worse NMs. Bugbear wasn't that bad.
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By Fenrir.Yuriki 2011-10-26 09:50:37
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1) Find another game that interests you (I used Marvel vs. Capcom 3 for PS3).

2) Kill first place holder, set stop watch, kill rest of PH.

3) Play your other fun game.

4) When timer goes off, do steps 2 and 3.

5) ??? (probably masturbation).

6) Profit!
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By Siren.Barber 2011-10-26 10:24:38
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The reason bugbear and hotpot suck so much is the repop time of the placeholder. 16 minute respawns are terrible because it doesn't seem like they adjusted the pop percentage of the NM to account for it. Expect it to take 3x as long as getting a NM with 5 minute placeholder pops to spawn.

Bugbear made me smooth quit the game for 2 months it was so maddening and hotpot was even worse. That's from someone with 100 fishing, ebisu rod, max choco digging, max crafting etc so I have done my fair share of tedious and mindless crap. But if you catch those two on the wrong day when they just won't pop it is about the worst experience FFXI has to offer.

If you are a COR it's pretty much your only option though since mythic is a touch more time consuming......
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-10-26 10:44:35
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Hotpot placeholders are 5 minute respawn now thanks to Grounds of Valor.
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By Siren.Barber 2011-10-26 10:59:16
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That shouldn't be too bad then, assuming the placeholders can be killed by cor. When I did it (I know I know, walking up hill both ways in the snow) even the placeholders were challenging as a solo cor, and probably would have killed me if I would have went on ranger. 5 minute repops will help immensely though, although that means paying attention more often.....
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2011-10-26 11:00:28
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IMO the entire twashtar path is full of annoying pops. Just stick with it and hope the hovering hotpot doesn't have a bad run, that one can be really annoying too.
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By Shiva.Gib 2011-10-26 11:05:05
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for all of you complaining nancys, I did Hovering hotpot and the the NMs popped within 45 mins of the window opening.

the repop timer being 5 mins instead of the normal 15 helps alot
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-10-26 11:44:46
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i did gun trials, bugbear wasnt that hard. only took me like 3 days of solid camping to finish it
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By Leviathan.Lunazetha 2011-10-26 11:45:11
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huh? why ppl have problems on this i did my way through the dagger trials in 1 week something like this:
1. kill mob late night as last thing to do before sleep
2. log out there
3. wake kill mob and go to work
4. log there
5. back from work kill nm again
6. do all the stuff
7. come back to step 1
8. profit

even if you have to team up whit ppl and NM dont pop you dont lost time to make another thing
this thing work for me on bat, bugbear and olla
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-10-26 11:48:43
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the hardest one for me was the quadav, was annoying to find and always took forever to pop
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By Siren.Barber 2011-10-26 12:07:24
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Leviathan.Lunazetha said: »
huh? why ppl have problems on this i did my way through the dagger trials in 1 week something like this:
1. kill mob late night as last thing to do before sleep
2. log out there
3. wake kill mob and go to work
4. log there
5. back from work kill nm again
6. do all the stuff
7. come back to step 1
8. profit

even if you have to team up whit ppl and NM dont pop you dont lost time to make another thing
this thing work for me on bat, bugbear and olla

People are 'having problems' because of the amount of time that can take place between pops. Bugbear for me was 32 total hours with the fastest pop being 4 hours. Hotpot was 49 hours with the fastest pop being 8 hours. That's killing the placeholder as soon as it is up. Bugbear I did 2 then took a 2 month break. Hotpot I did 49 hours straight with only one 4 hour nap while a friend killed PH.

So some people are not fortunate enough to 'wake up and use the 30 minutes before work to magically make it pop'.

I've done the bow/gun/hth/katana paths and bugbear/hotpot were about as bad as all the other trials combined. That's just the way it is, sometimes you get mega unlucky with pops. Placeholders on 16 minute pops like bugbear is and hotpot was just exacerbates the potential for a hella long spawn.

To the OP, just grind through it and get it done. Set up shop and don't leave for anything. You only have to do it once and then it's over forever. After this doing cara/croin will seem like a walk in the park.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2011-11-04 16:07:28
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ARGUS.
THERE IS NO WORKING TOGETHER WITH OTHERS.

Enough said.
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