BLU - Dual Wield . . . What?

Actually the First person talkinga bout the DW Shamsir made a very valid point and I acknowledge that, but the rest just making crap up are just anoying.

You should know by now, that 90% of the player base have no idea what's better in this game, and just use random crap.
Asking questions like this is totally useless, because the answer is allways: PEOPLE DONT KNOW ANY BETTER.
It's like, why the hell do BLMs nuke in that mab+10 scythe? It's HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, but tons of them do it.

But I did learn to DW Shamsirs :D!

what a troll...

So, you're asking why stupid people do stupid things. I believe you answered your own question.

In all honesty, I will probably be that blm. If I had a mule to be my mage I would set it up with all the staves and obis etc. But if and when I level blm it'll be to get another 90+ job. I still gear up my jobs to "passable" levels, but I don't go all out for every single job I have.

I'm not trying to give anyone in, or described in, this thread an "out". I'm just saying that you MIGHT not be viewing a job someone takes seriously. If I cared about blue mage like i care about drg I'd have a seperate gear macro for each spell in my arsenal and 2-3 TP sets. The problem is that I don't have the inventory or the "love" for blu that I do for drg. That being said, I have 2 jobs that I carry ~ 72-74 inventory for (food and meds in storage) 2 that I have "ok" gear for, and the rest gets the "2-3 sets/ probably just tp and ws gear" treatment. You'll still never see me in aurore though :x

I honestly dont see the reason to level a job if you arent gonna gear it properly <_>
If it's simply for blm procs in abyssea, sure. But might aswell just be naked then.

Why do you see BLU's set things like Magic Fruit, and Hysteric Barrage still? Why do I constantly see BLUs make +eva swords. Face it not everyone is going to be good at the job they're playing. Dual wielding swords increase damage output. And when you're waiting for recast on spells the damage is going to be coming from your normal hits and weapon skills. Sure having a shield has it uses, but in most cases the shield is just not needed. Plus unless you play another job that needs shield skill most people probably just don't want to bother skilling it up.

Magic fruit is a more mp-efficient cure.
Eva+ swords can be really handy in solo\tank situtation, if you bother with eva sets (mostly there's just HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE jps that fulltime them, tho)

You should be setting Embrace anyway for the strengh, and having two healing spells set is a waste. You're not going to have MP trouble with the refresh you get from Battery charge and tping in the AF3+2 body. I don't even see Galka blu have problems with mp using embrace.

Blu doesnt get any shield skill in the first place so its not a case of not wanting to bother you just cant. Magic fruit is used because of the lower mp cost and it heals for almost as much as plenilune its 30 mp you could use on heavy strike or delta thrust. Using eva swords lets you solo a lot of the lower NMs like seal stuff ect.

Magic Fruit cures for damn near the same amount, for much less mp. More important it doesnt lock the recipient up for 5 seconds. Plenilune Embrace is a waste of mp and time.

Many Almace wielding BLU stack dex in favor of str for CDC. So instead of spending the 4 points for Plenuline, we can set Magic Fruit for 3 and use the 4th point to set fantod for +2 dex and +2 agi (to boost benthic's damage when chaining with CDC).

As Kvazz pointed out, Magic Fruit is a more MP efficient cure. Additionally, the cast time is .5 seconds faster, and the recast time is almost 1/2 of what Plenuline is (6 seconds vs 10 seconds).

The attack bonus is Plenuline's one redeeming factor, but even that doesn't stack with drinks inside abyssea (which you should be using regularly). Of course, if you're spending more and more time outside abyssea like many of us are, that's less of a factor.

What... is...

Q: Why does BLU dual wield?

A: Why wouldn't BLU dual wield? The benefits of a second sword are irreplaceable. 10STR 20ATK from the offhand slot (ot 15AGI, 3% haste and TP drain) as well as an extra hit added to your weaponskills. What else would you put in your offhand that would even come close to these benefits?


/NIN is the superior sub job for damage and damage reduction if the target is of sufficient level; almost anything you'd be fighting in an endgame setting (/WAR for most of voidwatch).

Dual Wield III is superior to... well, /RDM offers nothing besides magic attack bonus for offense, which is easily replaced by our own trait.

Utsusemi is superior to occultation. Sure 9 shadows are well and dandy, until you get hit by an AoE 5 seconds after applying them. Grats on the wasted 138 MP. Somewhat confused by you using Ice Spikes as a damage deterrent too unless you're implying that the paralyze effect is worthy of note, which it is not as we have a more powerful natural paralyze available. As you do not seem to have a problem squandering MP, that shouldn't be much of an issue.

I have 3 off hand swords. Almace is my main hand.

1- Khanda (Occ. Attack 2-4 times). This is for CDC spam and for fun. It performs well, but on tough NMs, it isn't the weapon of choice.
2- Khanda (DA+10) See above
3- DEX Shamshir - This is best for HNM as it mods CDC and gives some extra accuracy. tests show it does more then the STR sword for it.

You think you can out dd a dual wielding blue single wielding? Myabe they are using a poor offhand choice, but i don't think you stand a chance at dealing the damage someone would with /nin and DW3... especially if they are smart and use suppa n' junk.

No. STR shamshir.

DEX sword if you need accuracy, STR if you dont.
If attack is capped, DA+10 sword.
As far as I remember?

I want to know what possible HNM you have capped attack on as a BLU, or fodder mob for that matter. Very few examples that I can think of where it's more effective to use a DEX sword due to accuracy, too. Situations exist, but they are very few and far between. I was more concerned with the "tests show it does more than STR sword for it" bit.

Yeah, STR is gonna be the best option 90% of the time.

Also to put it into perspective, in order to cap attack on a fresh, EP scorpion in Tahrongi Canyon, I had to use both frightful roar and triumphant roar on top of copious amounts of ATK gear as well as adding a bunch of STR.

My blm was 37 until 2 weeks ago just for lolwarp back in the day (tele-whoring to make money). I've hated elvaan blm since 2004. I think I over-exaggerated how I gimp some jobs I level but to be honest I don't enjoy blm.

If they made a staff with +5 to all elemental affinity, I might un-retire rdm..

I do have a HQ thunder for charged whisker, though! (my blm is naked though and i expect to keep it that way).

Magic Fruit outside Abyssea zones
Plenilune Embrace Inside Abyssea zones

its that simple

Please, explain why we should be using Plenilune Embrace inside Abyssea.

Plenilune embrace is incredibly inefficient compared to magic fruit. Literally all it does is add +100 to the end of the magic fruit formula. Well, it does add it before cure potency, but that doesn't come close to redeeming its value.

personal preference in my cast

You said "its that simple", so clearly there's some logic behind your decision that needs to be shared so that we can all follow your blanket statement and be better BLUs.

looks to me like you answered your own question from the original post.

This thread:

well first off i dont know any BLUs that would suffers from MP problems in aby zones while using atma of MM, body Af2/AF3+2, Battery Charge, and trait refresh i know Plenilune is incredibly inefficient but still i cant see how anywho would have mp issues unless their CWburning as i said its just a personal preference and i should of been clear in my first post

>MM

Solution: make an Almace.


Even with MM, plenilune is less effective than fruit just due to recast and casting times. Animation lock etc.