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 Bismarck.Angeleus
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2011-10-04 13:11:03
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I think this game has become more guys having woman emotions...
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-04 13:12:50
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Bismarck.Angeleus said: »
I think this game has become more guys having woman emotions...

This is why you'll never get laid.
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2011-10-04 13:15:58
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Bismarck.Angeleus said: »
I think this game has become more guys having woman emotions...

This is why you'll never get laid.

Maybe not in the game world...
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-10-04 13:16:33
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Odin.Sheelay said: »
They'll probably have to fix it, the same way they fixed the Relic trials when they realized that Thousands of WS killshots were a bit too much to ask off people who had already endured extended stays in Dyna.

The thing is, relic owners had already worked for their weapons by that point, thousands of weaponskill killshots were unfair by the time they'd done currency/attestations/fragments, easier trials after that point are completely justified. Problem is, each of the trials adds little to a relic in terms of equalizing them with empyreans. The most recent boost was great for some weapons with the increase to the proc rate on additional damage, but they definitely need more done to them.

Empyreans are the exact opposite. They start laughably easy to make and now seem to be shifting toward being incredibly difficult to upgrade. This would be acceptable if relics were getting stronger to be comparable with empyrean weapons and empyreans were still getting worthwhile boosts but becoming harder to upgrade.

This, however, is not the case. They made the mistake of making Empyreans too easy to get from the get go. I can't think of many ways that they can make it fair at this point besides making Mythics/Relics easier to get from the start.
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By Asura.Fondue 2011-10-04 13:18:15
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banning all windower users :( heard it from my gm friend
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By Phoenix.Crimsontears 2011-10-04 13:18:52
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Asura.Fondue said: »
banning all windower users :( heard it from my gm friend
I guess I better quit then XD
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By Carbuncle.Shayala 2011-10-04 13:19:45
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Asura.Fondue said: »
banning all windower users :( heard it from my gm friend

If this were true i'd quit playing.
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By Bismarck.Soranika 2011-10-04 13:31:36
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I"m sure he's just joking about that. Anyway bleh I choose a wrong time to log on then.
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By Cerberus.Leoxtribal 2011-10-04 13:33:27
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And its back up.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-10-04 13:33:39
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Odin.Sheelay said: »
They'll probably have to fix it, the same way they fixed the Relic trials when they realized that Thousands of WS killshots were a bit too much to ask off people who had already endured extended stays in Dyna.

The thing is, relic owners had already worked for their weapons by that point, thousands of weaponskill killshots were unfair by the time they'd done currency/attestations/fragments, easier trials after that point are completely justified. Problem is, each of the trials adds little to a relic in terms of equalizing them with empyreans. The most recent boost was great for some weapons with the increase to the proc rate on additional damage, but they definitely need more done to them.

Empyreans are the exact opposite. They start laughably easy to make and now seem to be shifting toward being incredibly difficult to upgrade. This would be acceptable if relics were getting stronger to be comparable with empyrean weapons and empyreans were still getting worthwhile boosts but becoming harder to upgrade.

This, however, is not the case. They made the mistake of making Empyreans too easy to get from the get go. I can't think of many ways that they can make it fair at this point besides making Mythics/Relics easier to get from the start.

I totally agree. As I said htough, I believe it takes different tries to fix certain errors in the game, especially if it means having to go mess with things that used to be acknowleged as the best item for the job.

With Abyssea they switched to a completely different gamestyle, one that is more relaxed, less timetaking but still very rewarding and fairly enjoyable. The reasons for this switch are enbedded in the game's age and all the factors that come with it, plus the fact that they constantly have to deal with us customers, who don't necessarily have the same opinion about how things should go.

That's where you hear from oldschool relic owners complaining about relic weapons being too easy, yet gimp in performance, mythic wannabees complaining about how insane it is to get alexanxrite, and empyrean owners who want to keep their top notch status with the light efforts it took them to obtain it.

Given all these different opinions, it becomes hard to make everyone happy, so I believe the only solution is to make everything about as easy/hard as the rest.
Ideally, we will come to a point where a specific job will know whether a Relic, Mythic or Emp will be his top weapon and be able to go for it with fair ease, as opposed to the current situation where -- aside from a few exceptions here and there -- Emps > All
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By Cerberus.Evilpaul 2011-10-04 13:34:42
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Goddamnit.
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news21094.shtml
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By Fenrir.Crystenne 2011-10-04 13:36:19
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AOE nerf in Dynamis. Called it. :/
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2011-10-04 13:36:35
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LOL
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-10-04 13:36:39
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Oh well
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2011-10-04 13:37:23
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servers are up
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-10-04 13:37:32
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They forgot a note.

*An issue wherein "Final Fantasy XI" was available for over a week after maintenance has been addressed.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-10-04 13:38:52
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Odin.Sheelay said: »
They'll probably have to fix it, the same way they fixed the Relic trials when they realized that Thousands of WS killshots were a bit too much to ask off people who had already endured extended stays in Dyna.

The thing is, relic owners had already worked for their weapons by that point, thousands of weaponskill killshots were unfair by the time they'd done currency/attestations/fragments, easier trials after that point are completely justified. Problem is, each of the trials adds little to a relic in terms of equalizing them with empyreans. The most recent boost was great for some weapons with the increase to the proc rate on additional damage, but they definitely need more done to them.

Empyreans are the exact opposite. They start laughably easy to make and now seem to be shifting toward being incredibly difficult to upgrade. This would be acceptable if relics were getting stronger to be comparable with empyrean weapons and empyreans were still getting worthwhile boosts but becoming harder to upgrade.

This, however, is not the case. They made the mistake of making Empyreans too easy to get from the get go. I can't think of many ways that they can make it fair at this point besides making Mythics/Relics easier to get from the start.
To be fair the Dynamis updates have done just that, especially the most recent update. A lot of 95 relics are equal to or better than their 90 empyrean counterparts, and if Empyreans didn't get a hidden boost at 95 that holds for the upgraded versions too. Some relics are still behind, but the situation in terms of both power and time to obtain has certainly shifted favorably in relics' favor.
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By Asura.Wordspoken 2011-10-04 13:39:12
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Carbuncle.Shayala said: »
Cerberus.Evilpaul said: »
So have seasonal hours. Changing your clock one hour does lots when the sun sets three plus *** hours earlier. Also, in the US daylight savings time was started in World War II and has something to do with farmers. But what with Hitler and Polio being a huge problem still it makes sense to keep it around.

Here in England we put our clocks forward 1 hour in March and back 1 hour in October (BST/GMT)
What job is GMT? :3
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By Leviathan.Kajii 2011-10-04 13:39:24
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wtf!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-10-04 13:40:07
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Wow, so much for that. Back to JA procs I guess.

EDIT: The irony of the update notes getting posted while I'm typing out how the past update was great for making relics easier to obtain is not lost on me =\
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2011-10-04 13:40:16
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2011-10-04 13:42:01
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »

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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-10-04 13:42:50
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Oh ho ho~ Finally!
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2011-10-04 13:43:07
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
Bahamut.Dannyl said: »
They better not fuc with dyna
this is almost certainly the reason
Pretty sure I called it!
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By Lakshmi.Cesil 2011-10-04 13:44:34
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fail :(
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By Asura.Mikalya 2011-10-04 13:46:28
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Bismarck.Angeleus said: »
I think this game has become more guys having woman emotions...

This is why you'll never get laid.

lol...
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-10-04 13:51:31
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...so they buffed the damage staves from what they were on the test server?

What was their thought process behind this?

"Alright guys, we realized that adding +1 to STR on your shamshir and then giving mages 5% more damage from affinity was kinda lame, so we're going to adjust things a little."

"Cool thanks guys"

"LOL J/K *** WE BUFFIN DAT ***, HAVE SOME ACCURACY MAGES"
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By Leviathan.Korialstrasz 2011-10-04 13:52:48
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Nooooooooooooooo!!!
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2011-10-04 13:53:13
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People complained about staves removal of macc, it was retained. People didn't complain about 1STR and it was maintained.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-10-04 13:54:53
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
People didn't complain about 1STR and it was maintained.

They didn't? You're telling me no one complained about 40 geodes for +1 to a stat? Hm. <_<