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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2012-09-12 01:29:55
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Ok so since i wish i dont have to get mekki and rose strap since im so low on campaign and it would take 3 months to reach the rank to buy strap, I made these sets and would love input on them. most are from what ive seen so will look repetitive but i just want to know if im doing it right...

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/Sam 4hit


/War 5Hit


Coronach


Last Stand

Moonshade Earring has TP Bonus +25

and Barrage


I hope those sets are all good also, as far as the X-hit idk if im doing it right since that is what ffxicalc show on per shot but idk tp return on the WS's themselves to see if i have a true X-hit whether 4 on sam or 5 on war. Thanks for taking the time in reading what i posted.
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By Leviathan.Hellcatt 2012-09-12 02:28:23
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this is more how ur barrage set should look with a relic
can even use Kacura Leggings +1 if u dont have thouse feet
and Prosilio Belt if u dont have cest
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-09-12 03:30:17
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Leviathan.Hellcatt said: »




this is more how ur barrage set should look with a relic
can even use Kacura Leggings +1 if u dont have thouse feet
and Prosilio Belt if u dont have cest

Oneiros cest is worthless unless you really need the store tp from it. Prosilio, or wanion belt (I prefer wanion for the dex), will easily beat it. Even with dead aim, ranged crits really aren't that special. You're better off gearing for ranged attack and strength. Wurrukatte boots are for precast only; kacura leggings +1 will easily beat them (str +6)--with that said, don't use them anyway (use scout's +2). Back should be terebellum or libeccio. Head should be scout's beret +2 (with augment) or sylvan +2.

That said, rancor collar is a pretty decent piece to use, mainly because there aren't any amazing RNG neck pieces out there.

@colonelace
Scout's beret +2 with augment will allow you to get rid of a lot of that crappy store tp gear. /SAM is pointless with annihilator btw so don't worry about that set. The rest look fine.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-09-12 03:36:22
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pretty much what helel said, in regards to making critical hit orientated barrage set. I'd maybe use one on fodder/where I have champ drink. Anything high level though, you'll want racc/atk, and alot of it.
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By Leviathan.Hellcatt 2012-09-12 03:57:48
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well either way im happy with this set up im using it i do consistently high barrage's my highest atm 16952 on pil so either way i offered my advice don't like it too bad and im currently using kacura +1 and wanion like u said as a belt still need cest and legion boots but still happy with my set o and im using yoi not Anni either way Anni should do more
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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2012-09-12 05:05:26
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well im thankful for the advice i have been given, i guess before my wording of the set to rule all sets was not well written. This was the advice i was trying to get Kenrusai, @helel As far as beret +2 with augments how does it fair vs the sets i have since you say /sam not needed im guessing you cant true 4 hit unless the recycle procs so often that it can be done. Also like i stated earlier im having issues knowing how to make sure its a true x hit and not 5 initial hits then ws and 5 again making it a 6 hit... I wanted to use sylvan neck for the 8 r.att and 6 agi and - enm since ppl in my ls(that dont own a anni) say that LS pulls major hate and that it cant be spammed while AM's up. So far most of the gear i own except vulcan's and the rest is not hard for me to obtain in the near future(doing legion soon). Again thank you for the advice and the help that is being given to me.
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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2012-09-19 21:45:29
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My new sets from what I have been reading up on lately, just wondering if I finally hit the sweet spot and don't need to gear it anymore lol...

TP Set

Augmented Beret

Barrage Set


Coronach


Last Stand

Last Stand still only set I haven't changed any pieces because I think that's the best it can get...

Hopefully I have finally hit the ideal gear for most content that matter and also content that you can have fun with like VW(love seeing my constant dmg LS's)

inb4 but wait you can use xyz piece D:
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-09-19 22:48:17
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So, I was thinking of jobs I could level, and RNG peaked my interest. I want to test it out to see if I like it, and if I do I would consider making Annihilator (I do love me them bandwagons). Since I didn't feel like necroing a thread I figured I would post in this thread. I tried poking around to see what I should do, but I just want a few other opinions on the subject.

Anyways, long story short I have some questions:

Merits:
Group 1:
Rapid Shot seems pretty obvious to 5/5.

After that, I am not sure. Camouflage and Sharpshot recast both appear nice, but they sound like something I would want to pair with Barrage, so it seems silly to me to lower their recast since all three would share recast otherwise.
I don't think I need to explain my thoughts on Scavenge recast, so that just leaves Unlimited Shot recast.

Should I just 5/5 Unlimited Shot or toss some in Camo/Sharp?

Group 2:
Snapshot is another obvious 5/5.

I was leaning towards 5/5 Flashy Shot for the extra pew pew, but after reading this thread, I am now leaning towards 5/5 Recycle because of the Relic+2 Head. Stealth Shot seems rather lackluster especially if I were to only put 1 merit in it.


Gear Sets:
I haven't made a barrage set yet, but I will probably cobble something together from discussion that I see in here.

Here are the sets I will be aiming at (basically the same as Colonelace's now that I am looking at it):
(Snapshot is straightforward, so not posting, and I will work on Barrage once I know more of what I should be looking for.)

TP


Last Stand


From what I understand, for /WAR I will have a 5 hit with those assuming Recycle procs at least once, and assuming the head gives 25% like the nq does, I should have 50% Recycle which seems like pretty good odds to hit it at least once in a 4 hits. Any obvious upgrades that I missed?

Dagger question:
How does Aluh compare against Carabineer Dagger or Nguul?

Final question:
Anni99 vs Arma99 (Leaning towards Anni.)

I apologize for the quantity of questions, assume that I know very little about RNG, so any advice is much appreciated.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-09-19 23:11:25
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Hands I would go with relic +2 but I'm guessing it screws with your 5-hit build? I have moonshade earring augmented with regain (yeah I know I'm a wierdo) but I honestly think regain from moonshade is more beneficial to RNG than tp bonus (considering how low ftp progression is for last stand). Feel free to disagree with me on that point; I know many people go the tp bonus route. Last stand set is fine.

Dagger: I prefer aluh jambiya; it will provide more DoT than nguul or carabineer. Aluh is really just a better version of carabineer. Some prefer nguul for last stand; it is better for last stand of course, but aluh is so much better for tp (and not that far behind nguul for last stand).

Gun: This is a tough one for me. I actually did armageddon 99 first and then did annihilator. I would probably go with annihilator 99 first though, mainly because wildfire is not affected by base damage so the upgrade to 99 really doesn't do much (other than the extra agi). You're really only going to be using armageddon for wildfire purposes. Of course, coronach is very useful too.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-09-19 23:25:09
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Bismarck.Helel said: »
Relic hands +2 might work, but they would require 2 Recycle procs.
Assuming 50% recycle rate, chance of procs are as follows (assuming for a 5 hit):
4=6.25%
3=25%
2=38.5%
1=25%
0=6.25%

So with Relic+2 I would have a 68.75% chance at a 5 hit vs the 93.75% chance with AF3+2, assuming I am without regain because that throws everything out the window. So in VW Relic, and outside AF3+2 it looks like.

Dagger: Sounds like Aluh to me.

Gun: You basically said the reasons why I am leaning towards Anni if I decide I like RNG enough.
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By Valefor.Kungg 2012-09-23 01:36:24
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So in order to get the 50% Recycle proc rate you need the augment on the +2 Relic hat? with 5/5 merits?
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By Phoenix.Shiomi 2012-09-27 08:13:39
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Is Thaumas Hat really better for Coronach than Oce. Headpiece +1? I kinda understand why but I was wondering if anyone could say why for sure.
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By Aeyela 2012-09-27 08:56:35
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Bahamut.Colonelace said: »
Barrage Set

Why melee accuracy on the neck for barrage? Or am I missing exactly what the rancor thing does?
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2012-09-27 09:07:06
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Aeyela said: »
Bahamut.Colonelace said: »
Barrage Set

Why melee accuracy on the neck for barrage? Or am I missing exactly what the rancor thing does?

5% Crit Rate
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2012-09-27 09:16:37
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This is what i currently use to TP in. Upgrades being Vulcan's Pearl x2, and Scout's socks. (Surprisingly, I have yet to get the drop from Bcd ;;)
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By Aeyela 2012-09-27 09:24:59
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So that's why people use them!
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By Bahamut.Itze 2012-09-27 09:32:02
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If you have a crit rate *** use rancor mantle, nef collar and thaumas head in that set.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-09-27 10:01:17
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TP set gonna depend on the situation naturally, I mean, if we're talking noobwatch, Kollosis's set is ideal (with the vulcans)

You'll be wanting more racc for Odin II / Legion:Mul

Edit: Bar scout's gloves in TP set.
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2012-09-27 10:07:41
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
TP set gonna depend on the situation naturally, I mean, if we're talking noobwatch, Kollosis's set is ideal (with the vulcans)

You'll be wanting more racc for Odin II / Legion:Mul

Edit: Bar scout's gloves in TP set.
I agree for higher tier mobs in Legion (although we don't use Rngs in Legion), but with that set I have np acc-wise on Odin II.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-09-27 10:11:43
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RNG is a solid DD in legion if you aren't ultilizing PD
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2012-09-27 10:28:04
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
RNG is a solid DD in legion if you aren't ultilizing PD
Yarrr, But 100% of the time, we are. So sch4lyfe it is.
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By Phoenix.Shiomi 2012-09-27 19:39:51
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Phoenix.Shiomi said: »
Is Thaumas Hat really better for Coronach than Oce. Headpiece +1? I kinda understand why but I was wondering if anyone could say why for sure.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-09-27 19:58:17
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+str/dex/agi when using more than one thaumas piece I'd assume; it would be greater than 13/13 dex/agi.
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By Phoenix.Shiomi 2012-09-27 20:20:48
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
+str/dex/agi when using more than one thaumas piece I'd assume; it would be greater than 13/13 dex/agi.

Oh, duh. I only have the head at the moment but that makes sense. Thanks.
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By Valefor.Kungg 2012-09-28 23:36:11
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So I'm looking at ways to improve my Ranger.. My WS sets seem solid - a few pieces.. TP and Barrage wise I have an idea but I'd like to improve on them.

Coro:



Last Stand:



Barrage:



I have other misc Ranger gear if they would be better in these sets. I'll list those at the bottom.

Rancorous Mantle, Prosilio Belt, Athos's Tabard, Scouts feet +2, Unaugmented +2 Scout's beret, Nefarious Collar and Ocelomeh Head +1.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-09-28 23:59:18
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Replace clearview with stat earring on all sets. Again, I'd probably use scout's +2 over kacura on barrage. Augment on scout's beret +2 works on all hits of barrage (I believe?) so you may consider using that over thaumas. It works on all hits of a WS so I assume the same is true for barrage, but maybe not.
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By Valefor.Kungg 2012-09-29 00:21:47
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Ok.. As for the stat earring for now....... All I have is a Suppa till I get off my *** and either farm up a second Vulcan's or get the +4 AGI Rng earring..
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2012-10-27 14:40:06
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What is the benefit of using Scout's Jerkin +2 vs Sylvan Caban +2. I have been seeing some RNGs using it as of late
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-10-27 15:30:09
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
What is the benefit of using Scout's Jerkin +2 vs Sylvan Caban +2. I have been seeing some RNGs using it as of late

The augment is basically 5% double attack for ranged attacks (assuming 5 snapshot merits). You don't need to have double shot active. That said, I still don't know why anyone would use it. Maybe people are confused and think that it actually affects snapshot when it doesn't.

If you had capped PDIF, FSTR2, accuracy . . . etc. then it would technically be the best body to use. Usually in situations like that, you probably wouldn't be on RNG in the first place though.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2012-10-27 20:27:35
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What would a Last Stand set without Thaumas hands/feet look like? (Or any pieces for those NNI-challanged)
I only have head and legs so far and am using this set:
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