Paladin MDB

Looking to upgrade my Paladin's Magic Defense Bonus set. Just want to see what would be more superior. I am in works of MDB and MDT capping out. Let's see what you have. I have a majority of the gear just curious if there are items I am unaware of.

I use salvus mantle for back piece, 2 mermans earrings, 2 dark rings with MDT -6%, twilight torque. That stuff puts you @ 21%, i use PLD AF3 waist for a bonus, oh and Vhelm. So 26% MDT, (mainly damage taken) and some mag defence bonus gear

One piece I made the other day that you may have missed is m.legs can get mdt-3% and magic evasion augments. Those together on the same leg piece is pretty nice.
Vallhalla, twilight neck, m.legs, and a mix of askar feet/turul belt/ dmg-5 back with the 2 shadow lord rings. Sounds pretty sexy

Well I have no problem with the actual MDt i have dring twilight and inworks of valhalla I been put on the back burner for , for year. Worried about mdt. Im not sure if I should be more worried about mdt versus mdb in spots. Noesis helm yay or nay Im a long time pld but at this point there is so many pieces not sure which is more potent.
I had a minervas ring but felt It was a bit overkill having d ring, then working on aegis atm may not be an issue after.

MDT is more potent.

MDT is not hard to cap on PLD, i actually have gear for shell 4 and 5 and shellra 5 capped in merits

Shellra V (capped merits) = 27.34% MDT
Twilight Torque
Creed Cuirass +2
Minerva's Ring

Shell V = 24.2%
Twilight Torque
Creed Cuirass +2
Minerva's Ring
Nierenschutz

Shell IV = 21.9%
Twilight Torque
Creed Cuirass +2
Minerva's Ring
Nierenschutz
Dark Ring

so all you really need is a total of 5 items to cover MDT for solo to having a WHM, the rest of the slots you can stack MDB

i use minerva's ring but others say its useless but your choice

I too use minerva's,and how is 8% useless @_@ its a double merman's ring on one finger.even compared to a 6% dark ring,its still better

The extra physical damage you tend to take right after a spell hits you.

well minerva's for me gets canceled out by twilight torque and the af3 cuirass so you really dont feel it even just torque and waist item is 8% that covers my minervas +8% taken

Still 8% more than you could be taking.

Got told my MDT set was all wrong :/
Any suggestions ? This is with Aegis95 Shellra V 5/5

You only have 6% mdt of the 23% that you need... it IS all wrong.
You should really be aiming to get your MDT to 50% (not including the aegis), and THEN cap out mdb.

Youve only got 6/22ish mdt is the problem, you want to capitalize on your aegis mdt and get as close to 90% as possible, shadow ring is then less useful depending on the spell. This set has 22% mdt or possibly use valhalla if youve only got base shell5 for 27% mdt, or actually that new back piece I guess.




edit - meh beaten.

Creed Cuirass +2 is DT-10% x.x so that's 16% total.
I think MDT cap is still 87.5%ish still but if it is then I think that should hit 88%

Ah yeah just read that, tbh I thought when I read it before it was pdt only, that varies from like 2-10ish tho. Well id still use the same build as posted for a base shell 5 then take out minerva for a second -5 mdt -5pdt dark ring instead for merited shell.

wrong about being wrong? 87.5% total cap? (also i thought that included the mdb, though i could be wrong)





SO MUCH WRONG

oh ok, that makes much more sense >.>

muh bad

Where are you getting 87.5% from out of curiosity, wiki hasnt always been known to be right but all Aegis' have a -mdt thats ontop of 50% mdt cap and the 95 version has -45% mdt so potentially 95% mdt. If this is the case then you still want at least around 15 mdt in gear and af3+2 cuirass ontop. You might take an aga spell with low emnity for example and the cuirass might perform worse than avalon.

BTW imo when it comes to the other gear mdb legs, askar feet and gauntlets when youve got 95% mdt, mdb is less relevant, prob best to keep af3 mostly for the haste partly for the absorb. But you could spell interrupt with a sword swing, and obviously kill the mob quicker, I know youll only swap into it Briefly but some mobs you might not be quite sure how fast it casts and swap into mdt too early. Even for a split second with 95% mdt, mdb is meh may as well keep af3+2 on im sure.

There was a test in Neo's thread that confirmed Aegis conforming to the 87.5% global cap implemented in the pet nerf.

EDIT: Here. Value is slightly above 87.5% because he aso gained 3 INT.

I would assume that it's really 87.5% if anything, but I think people just underestimate the impact of increasing your base stats that much. I don't recall seeing any testing that demonstrated a -DT component to brews and I'm pretty sure what damage I've taken via brew can be exmplained by high VIT/DEF/INT, maybe MDB like the +900 MAB but it's been a while and you have to consider the high chance of resists with brew on.

So youre saying there is no - magic damage reduction difference between a 90 and 95 aegis? Because the 90 is 40 and the 95 is 45, or do all the shields give what they stay but the cap is 87.5% meaning you just need 15% ish on gear with a 95 aegis then and capped shellra.

Pop a brew and get charmed by Rani? lol

The latter.

Meh IDK weather to bother with more mdb gear, Id remove Minerva's for shadow and just keep 2 tp earrings on prob as its overkill on mdt.