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Blue Mage - Heavy Strike Accuracy Nerfed + more
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-02 16:34:29
Valefor.Prothescar said: »ACC on EP clionids doesn't seem all that bad. Have missed 7 in 50 casts so far.
The people chiming in about BLU being "balanced" by this change are probably the same ones that think it does awesome damage even without Heavy Strike. :\ (Draylo)
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-09-02 16:35:45
Valefor.Prothescar said: »1600-1800 damage for 38mp was a bit much, have to admit BLUs...
It's also the only real way for us to manage that sort of damage on relevant monsters. It's hardly a lot to ask for to have a single source of damage on high level content. :\ Valefor.Prothescar said: »ACC on EP clionids doesn't seem all that bad. Have missed 7 in 50 casts so far.
The people chiming in about BLU being "balanced" by this change are probably the same ones that think it does awesome damage even without Heavy Strike. :\
Not sure if trolling.
By Artemicion 2011-09-02 16:36:57
Considering the MP cost and the potency of it being unaffected, I think accuracy is a fair compromise.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-02 16:39:08
If the accuracy detriment is in the same boat as Sidewinder, which seems likely so far, then yes it's fine. But if it had turned out to be a sizable decrease in the acc cap for the spell? The content in which it would shine would be far too evasive to make it reliable.
@Fredjan: No, not trolling.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 16:41:31
Valefor.Prothescar said: »If the accuracy detriment is in the same boat as Sidewinder, which seems likely so far, then yes it's fine. But if it had turned out to be a sizable decrease in the acc cap for the spell? The content in which it would shine would be far too evasive to make it reliable.
@Fredjan: No, not trolling. So far it looks like an innate sidewinder type thing? oh that's good, not much reason for panic, try rolling up to other stuff like a nm and ask what's up
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-09-02 16:41:57
I'm already testing BRD
TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
Not really, Marcato got nerfed.
I told you like 3 times they were planning to reduce its potency :P
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-02 16:43:05
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »I'm already testing BRD
TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
Not really, Marcato got nerfed.
I told you like 3 times they were planning to reduce its potency :P
I was assuming they'd realise it was bad as it was and not bother nerfing it further.
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2011-09-02 16:43:19
It reminds me of Vertical Cleave, which people ended up sticking on SA to compensate for its inaccurate nature. I suppose Heavy Strike + SA would be reliable, but it's already critical hit damage I read? Oh well.
I guess we can't cry if we never even got it. We'd be crying more later if there were no test server and then it got nerfed in a patch, I suppose. :/ /pre-emptive removal of internetrage
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 16:45:50
Just crashed when trying to get on test server on my laptop :(
Guess I'll have to wait until I get home in like an hourish
In the meanwhile give us a base rating for embrava flion D:<
Then use this enhancing set:
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-02 16:46:19
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »Valefor.Prothescar said: »If the accuracy detriment is in the same boat as Sidewinder, which seems likely so far, then yes it's fine. But if it had turned out to be a sizable decrease in the acc cap for the spell? The content in which it would shine would be far too evasive to make it reliable.
@Fredjan: No, not trolling. So far it looks like an innate sidewinder type thing? oh that's good, not much reason for panic, try rolling up to other stuff like a nm and ask what's up
I'm gonna have to go try it outside of abyssea, but it really doesn't look like the ACC cap was changed. If it was it isn't a large decrease.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 16:47:43
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »Valefor.Prothescar said: »If the accuracy detriment is in the same boat as Sidewinder, which seems likely so far, then yes it's fine. But if it had turned out to be a sizable decrease in the acc cap for the spell? The content in which it would shine would be far too evasive to make it reliable.
@Fredjan: No, not trolling. So far it looks like an innate sidewinder type thing? oh that's good, not much reason for panic, try rolling up to other stuff like a nm and ask what's up
I'm gonna have to go try it outside of abyssea, but it really doesn't look like the ACC cap was changed. If it was it isn't a large decrease. phew, dodged a bullet there if the cap wasn't affected
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-02 16:49:22
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »Just crashed when trying to get on test server on my laptop :(
Guess I'll have to wait until I get home in like an hourish
In the meanwhile give us a base rating for embrava flion D:<
Then use this enhancing set:
getonit
*** you I'm playing Deus Ex
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-02 16:49:53
Mentioned it before but, with Dark Orb being the same MP cost, it could be that the BLU changes haven't been implemented yet.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-09-02 16:49:58
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »I'm already testing BRD
TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
Not really, Marcato got nerfed.
I told you like 3 times they were planning to reduce its potency :P
I was assuming they'd realise it was bad as it was and not bother nerfing it further.
I'm still waiting for them to just scrap T.Flourish all together.
I'd rather have DNC get nothing than that piece of ***. :|
The new BLU spells are awesome. When school calms down a bit, I'm going to work on an almace lol.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-02 16:51:47
It pisses me off that people are defending the *** out of these on the official forums.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-09-02 16:52:49
what are they defending?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-02 16:52:57
BEASTMASTER STOLE MY CORROSIVE OOZE I WANT NERFS AND THEM TO BE REMOVED FROM GAME QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-02 16:53:18
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 16:54:32
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »Just crashed when trying to get on test server on my laptop :(
Guess I'll have to wait until I get home in like an hourish
In the meanwhile give us a base rating for embrava flion D:<
Then use this enhancing set:
getonit
*** you I'm playing Deus Ex 
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-02 16:56:57
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »Just crashed when trying to get on test server on my laptop :(
Guess I'll have to wait until I get home in like an hourish
In the meanwhile give us a base rating for embrava flion D:<
Then use this enhancing set:
getonit
*** you I'm playing Deus Ex 
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 16:58:12
WHY CAN'T I STAY MAD AT YOU
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2011-09-02 17:01:48
Valefor.Prothescar said: »BEASTMASTER STOLE MY CORROSIVE OOZE I WANT NERFS AND THEM TO BE REMOVED FROM GAME QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
Nope. sorry :3
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-02 17:05:05
THIS ISN'T YOUR DECISION.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 17:05:30
Valefor.Prothescar said: »BEASTMASTER STOLE MY CORROSIVE OOZE I WANT NERFS AND THEM TO BE REMOVED FROM GAME QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
Nope. sorry :3 I at least want dipper held on trial for the rape of lucky lulush
Next time: on Call(beast) and Order
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2011-09-02 17:06:26
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By Ophannus 2011-09-02 17:13:09
If its a straight -acc then just compensate by macroing in acc gear. If it's sidewinder-like where it's a static -acc% or something then yeah that sucks
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2011-09-02 17:16:33
moral of this, don't say ANYTHING when somehting is good so SE won't know to nerf it
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-02 17:17:11
They'll find out sooner or later, saying something about it won't change a thing.
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-09-02 18:08:31
If its a straight -acc then just compensate by macroing in acc gear. If it's sidewinder-like where it's a static -acc% or something then yeah that sucks Sidewinder had -racc %? I thought it was just a straight -40 acc at 100 TP. I could be wrong, it's been a while since I've cared about SW lol.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 18:19:31
Leviathan.Alkalinejoe said: »If its a straight -acc then just compensate by macroing in acc gear. If it's sidewinder-like where it's a static -acc% or something then yeah that sucks Sidewinder had -racc %? I thought it was just a straight -40 acc at 100 TP. I could be wrong, it's been a while since I've cared about SW lol. That's what I always thought too
At least that's what me whiffing godknowshowmany slugshots on cor whilst in bird camp when my food was eated told me :<
| 09-02-2011 03:02 PM | | Bayohne | | Community Rep |  |
| Based on feedback and Test Server results, some adjustments have been made to blue mage spells.
For balance purposes, the intention is for Heavy Strike to be very powerful, but with a higher chance to miss. Dark Orb was adjusted to balance cost performance in comparison to other Blue Magic.
Please try these out on the Test Server and provide feedback.
This is a follow-up to the previous post about Sudden Lunge.
We will work on fixing skillchain not showing up visually and in the logs, when Sudden Lunge produces a skillchain. (This is just a visual bug, and the effects of skill chain are actually triggered.) |
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