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By 2011-08-22 23:30:44
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 23:32:24
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I wouldn't use the term "MDB" in that regard, as it's completely different. dINT is what it is.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-08-22 23:32:30
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
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If you want to test this more reliably, you could try using Beholders in Abyssea - Tahrongi with Barfira (they use Blaze Spikes). You can hit them a lot faster than you can get a worm to cast Stonega III on you.
I did'nt though about that @_@

TY for all the nice comment though, this was my first test and as short at it looks like.I started at 2pm and finished at 10:30 pm lol
Alot longuer then I though it would take.

Heh, it took me a lot longer than it should have to hit upon that as a testing method. That's how I determined the absorb rate for Atma and such.

If you're going to go that route though, it'll be best if you use a text search tool with your log files to make the analysis easier.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Aistys 2011-08-22 23:32:57
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
not sure if I explained this well.
You both explained it well! Just wanted to confirm that is all. anywho, nice work on the test Vaness!
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-22 23:35:47
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Cerberus.Vaness said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
If you want to test this more reliably, you could try using Beholders in Abyssea - Tahrongi with Barfira (they use Blaze Spikes). You can hit them a lot faster than you can get a worm to cast Stonega III on you.
I did'nt though about that @_@

TY for all the nice comment though, this was my first test and as short at it looks like.I started at 2pm and finished at 10:30 pm lol
Alot longuer then I though it would take.

Heh, it took me a lot longer than it should have to hit upon that as a testing method. That's how I determined the absorb rate for Atma and such.

If you're going to go that route though, it'll be best if you use a text search tool with your log files to make the analysis easier.
I used logger ;o
Didnt trust parser, wasn't sure if it would show if the set procced (god pls some1 give me another word to use =( )
I gotta say that I am a kparser tard and I didn't wanted to *** stuff up.

I was thinking about posting SS for everything, wich is the main reason why it took so long.When I got to actual sets, I said *** it and used logger instead lol
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-22 23:36:05
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Quetzalcoatl.Aistys said: »
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not sure if I explained this well.
You both explained it well! Just wanted to confirm that is all. anywho, nice work on the test Vaness!
TY :)
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 23:37:30
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your use of the word proc is fine, everyone understood and knew exactly what you meant. He just felt the need to nitpick a perfectly fine test.
 
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-08-22 23:41:38
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If logger gives you a text file, you can use a search tool to find the frequency of phrases like:
1) deals 0 damage to Vaness" (when set procs)
2) "deals * damage to Vaness" (* is generally a wildcard, this would be when the set doesn't proc)

1 divided by 2 would give you the proc rate.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-08-22 23:43:12
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Oh, I forgot that I wrote this >.<;
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2011-08-22 23:44:50
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
If logger gives you a text file, you can use a search tool to find the frequency of phrases like:
1) deals 0 damage to Vaness" (when set procs)
2) "deals * damage to Vaness" (* is generally a wildcard, this would be when the set doesn't proc)

1 divided by 2 would give you the proc rate.

grep to the rescue!
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-22 23:47:48
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Oh, I forgot that I wrote this >.<;
I think 5/5 +2 10% rate is accurate lolololol would put it down to 5% =(
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-08-22 23:48:48
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For sure, haha. I use AstroGrep, but everyone has their own that they prefer. I just like that one because it's about as bare-bones as you can get.

If you click the link, the sample was 21 procs out of 203 nukes (by the same worms you used) for the 5/5 AF3+2 set test.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-22 23:55:38
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
For sure, haha. I use AstroGrep, but everyone has their own that they prefer. I just like that one because it's about as bare-bones as you can get.

If you click the link, the sample was 21 procs out of 203 nukes (by the same worms you used) for the 5/5 AF3+2 set test.
sounds pretty accurate to what I saw today.But I don't really feel like counting stuff in logger atm rofl xD
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2011-08-22 23:58:38
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
For sure, haha. I use AstroGrep, but everyone has their own that they prefer. I just like that one because it's about as bare-bones as you can get.

If you click the link, the sample was 21 procs out of 203 nukes (by the same worms you used) for the 5/5 AF3+2 set test.
sounds pretty accurate to what I saw today.But I don't really feel like counting stuff in logger atm rofl xD

If you used NotePad++, you could press CTRL+F, put in the text you want, and click on "Find all in Currenct Document" to find how many times whatever you were looking for happened. You can save a lot of time doing that versus manually counting.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-08-23 01:07:18
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ty for the test van but did u test 4/5 af3+2(head, body, hands, feet)
and relic legs?
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-23 01:11:42
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Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
ty for the test van but did u test 4/5 af3+2(head, body, hands, feet)
and relic legs?
no, I did 3/5 +2 wich is what most ppl do.
af3 +2 head/body/feet
af2 pants
Augur's Gloves
Beneficus
enhancing torque
Cascade belt

That set is one of the most used aside 5/5 +2 and those that believe blessed body was better then af3 +2

EDIT: I can do the test for you tomorrow if you want.Not tonight caus I am tired as *** ;_;
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By Phoenix.Bohgo 2011-08-23 01:26:47
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I've been using this set:


I still need an augmenting earring(none on ah). I haven't tested anything, but I'm guessing the additional % from +2 gloves(if there is any from going 3/5 to 4/5) will outdo the damage mitigation from the +5 enhancing from Augur's in the long run.

I'd like to find out the % increase from 4/5 to 5/5, then I'll know if Cleric's Pantaloons +1 are better than the +2 for legs. At the time being, I'll stick with the Pantaloons.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-08-23 10:40:47
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thanks so much for taking the time to do the test Vaness :)


I too would be interested in a bigger sample size comparing 4/5 to 5/5, personally I use the +2 gloves over the Augurs.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-23 11:23:47
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Phoenix.Bohgo said: »
I've been using this set:


I still need an augmenting earring(none on ah). I haven't tested anything, but I'm guessing the additional % from +2 gloves(if there is any from going 3/5 to 4/5) will outdo the damage mitigation from the +5 enhancing from Augur's in the long run.

I'd like to find out the % increase from 4/5 to 5/5, then I'll know if Cleric's Pantaloons +1 are better than the +2 for legs. At the time being, I'll stick with the Pantaloons.
I can pretty much answer your question already.
4/5 or 5/5 don't win over 3/5 with clerics and augur's
WHY?
Because the 5/5 +2 set procc is too low and to random to make it even a little usefull in a normal event.

For exemple on dragua, the set would procc once or maybe twice, the overall damage would tell you that your tank took near the double DMG as he would using augur's + clerics.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-08-23 11:32:53
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legs i can see, but hands are probably going to be pretty marginal regardless.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-23 11:38:30
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I'm gonna do another test testing set procc and overall dmg with 100 spells including quake,stonega 3 and stone 4.

gonna do it the following sets:
5/5 +2
4/5 +2 (with clerics pants)
3/5 +2 with augur's and cleric's pants

Hopefully it gives an idea of the % procc rate.

Will post it in a new thread when I am done.Might take a while lol
 
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-08-23 11:48:00
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
I'm gonna do another test testing set procc and overall dmg with 100 spells including quake,stonega 3 and stone 4.

gonna do it the following sets:
5/5 +2
4/5 +2 (with clerics pants)
3/5 +2 with augur's and cleric's pants

Hopefully it gives an idea of the % procc rate.

Will post it in a new thread when I am done.Might take a while lol

awesome!


I think keeping in this thread would be the best though ;D


can edit your original post :)
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-23 12:10:34
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
you could just link like 4 worms for more casting faster
yeah that what I did for previous test lol.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-23 15:10:24
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ADDED the set procc test to the initial first post.