Bismarck.Eburo said:
No actually you're wrong, I'm gonna sub WAR from now on so I can get good claims when I'm sucking at my job.
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RDM Job Manifesto
No actually you're wrong, I'm gonna sub WAR from now on so I can get good claims when I'm sucking at my job.
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Asura.Ludoggy said: Bismarck.Eburo said: No actually you're wrong, I'm gonna sub WAR from now on so I can get good claims when I'm sucking at my job. provoke while fleeing invisible > standing still and casting a spell 
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think my *** just fell off at reading that /sch is the best sub comment :(
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: I hate it as well. Rdm excels at doing both sides of black and white magic at once and to borrow from another of your posts, it "pigeon holes" you in to a particular role. Quote: I want to do both at once, not one and by /sch it means I'm not /whm and loose the benefits of such. Speed and recast ability rdm has is in my opinion hampered by the need to hit another macro first to gain some perk. When I use rdm, I hardly ever stop casting things and if I could cast faster I would be able to find more to do from both black and white magic. Asura.Dajociont said: you're using light arts' benefits in a debate about /sch being useful or not when you don't want to be called a 'pink mage', how ironic. Seriously? I don't know if it's just me...but usually, for example, I'll just swap to Dark Arts for the assisted nuking if I'm there for support via Light Arts. Same goes for back-up curing for helping recover the party. Not to mention, there's no delay between popping a Job Ability and Casting, so it makes perfect for macroing in an "emergency Light arts C4" button somewhere along the line if needed. There haven't been many experiences where that one second means everything in the entire event, but usually that counts as a freak Knock-Out anyway with even the fastest WHM trying to drop a cure on the DD/Tank. So, yes, I'm sure I'm not subjected to one side of magic permanently. Quote: but anyway, i can't think of an instance where /sch's mp conservation would make or break. keeping mp up on rdm, even outside abyssea, is stupid easy. /WHM can be highly inefficient if you're not getting the needed refresh support to keep up with pounding Cure 4's as well as your DDs are being stupid with keeping damage mitigation. Quote: and less resistant nukes? if you're really depending on dark arts for landing nukes unresisted consistently, then you're kinda doing it wrong :( I notice it helping with my Elemental Magic Skill with this set outside Aby: outside aby I end up doing like 600-700 something on T4 nukes against higher-tier mobs with another subjob, but it gets that little push to 700-900 otherwise. Phoenix.Fondue said: Asura.Ludoggy said: Bismarck.Eburo said: No actually you're wrong, I'm gonna sub WAR from now on so I can get good claims when I'm sucking at my job. provoke while fleeing invisible > standing still and casting a spell
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/nin is good for solo, but for group activities you should always be /sch unless you need to stun for some odd reason(i've never had to sub blm)
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: if i'm worried about -na or erase i just nuke in addendum: white. i still much prefer /sch over /whm though, even just the conserve mp trait is really noticeable to me. i also like being able to aoe buffs and -na/erase. nuking in jupiter ring
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Sylph.Kiaru said: /nin is good for solo, but for group activities you should always be /sch unless you need to stun for some odd reason(i've never had to sub blm) /drk at tiamat,cerb,einerjar,khim,kv /blm at khim,cerb,dynamis /nin stylin on elvaans in sky/sea needing more refresh than your own refresh/idle set on rdm = lol
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Sylph.Kiaru said: /nin is good for solo, but for group activities you should always be /sch unless you need to stun for some odd reason(i've never had to sub blm) I started out RDM soloing with NIN sub, but then later on I found how much I appreciated the extra MP pool and spells of BLM sub... There's a point where you realize you don't need shadows to solo a lot of things. Examples being Cirein-croin, any ironclad NM, chariots, Chukwa, Hedjedjet (good luck soloing this /sch, no really). Bismarck.Eburo said: Oh and having to switch between dark/light arts all the time sounds fun and time-consuming, especially when paralyzed or amnesia'd rite gaiz. You make it seem like I NEED to swap between arts every 10 seconds or something. It's definitely not the case when I'm on Light Arts doing my Buffs and back-up curing, and with the occasional Dark Arts for the extra nuking support. I'd estimate it to take MORE Than 30 seconds to buff everyone in the entire party to even consider swapping back to Dark Arts if I need to nuke again. Quote: Also, where's your Stun, Warp, and elemental DoT's? Or /whm, flash, divine seal, or party bar spells? Well, where are your BLMS for that? Divine Seal only sucks because it can be used every 10 minutes for that extra boost in cure potency, so might as well conserve your MP and plaster on Regen 2/Cure3 and Cure 4 when absolutely needed. Quote: Jus' sayin'. Even if SCH sub did provide any benefits they would be completely based on playstyle, and marginal at best. Phoenix.Fondue said: nuking in jupiter ring Bismarck.Eburo said: Sylph.Kiaru said: /nin is good for solo, but for group activities you should always be /sch unless you need to stun for some odd reason(i've never had to sub blm) I started out RDM soloing with NIN sub, but then later on I found how much I appreciated the extra MP pool and spells of BLM sub... There's a point where you realize you don't need shadows to solo a lot of things. Examples being Cirein-croin, any ironclad NM, chariots, Chukwa, Hedjedjet (good luck soloing this /sch, no really). you could pin that on drg/blm and kill it in 3 hours with bio2
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how do you get 6 int on a jupiter's ring?
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um.. jupiter ring is dex dude >_>
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: Well, where are your BLMS for that? Divine Seal only sucks because it can be used every 10 minutes for that extra boost in cure potency, so might as well conserve your MP and plaster on Regen 2/Cure3 and Cure 4 when absolutely needed. I'd agree if: A. BLMs focused more on that than damage output B. 2011 FFXI endgame didn't thrive on the ability to do more with less people. Phoenix.Fondue said: you could pin that on drg/blm and kill it in 3 hours with bio2 ROFL Oh *** I meant Aquilos >_>;
FIXED this thread is giving me aids
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I play on a controller, my macro space for extra ja's is rather limited and it slows me down when I have to jump to my strats book for the lesser used ones. I have a g15 so I'll set really important things to a few keys but I much prefer controller playing. I just want to cast the next spell on my todo list as quickly as possible and not be waiting for the spell to finish so I can pop a JA and then go to the spell. To each their own. You can switch modes plenty fast, it's the situations where I'm in light arts doing healing and buff cycles and then switching to dark to pop off a few nukes then some status effect goes off and I have to switch back but I can't cause the *#&$&*@& timer isn't up...
i think quetz lost all credibility with that ring hiccup, but anyway, on with the lol
Bismarck.Eburo said: Sylph.Kiaru said: /nin is good for solo, but for group activities you should always be /sch unless you need to stun for some odd reason(i've never had to sub blm) I started out RDM soloing with NIN sub, but then later on I found how much I appreciated the extra MP pool and spells of BLM sub... There's a point where you realize you don't need shadows to solo a lot of things. Examples being Cirein-croin, any ironclad NM, chariots, Chukwa, Hedjedjet (good luck soloing this /sch, no really). alt keys on nuke set = dark arts/dark art jas ctrl keys on set = nukes alt keys on cure set = light arts/light art ja's ctrl keys on cure set = cures/regen/refresh/haste Lets be real for a minute, the only red mage i'm on most of the time is this one
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Sylph.Kiaru said: Bismarck.Eburo said: Sylph.Kiaru said: /nin is good for solo, but for group activities you should always be /sch unless you need to stun for some odd reason(i've never had to sub blm) I started out RDM soloing with NIN sub, but then later on I found how much I appreciated the extra MP pool and spells of BLM sub... There's a point where you realize you don't need shadows to solo a lot of things. Examples being Cirein-croin, any ironclad NM, chariots, Chukwa, Hedjedjet (good luck soloing this /sch, no really). Care to put up if I asked you to do a timed Hedjedjet solo on RDM/SCH? Phoenix.Fondue said: Lets be real for a minute, the only red mage i'm on most of the time is this one I see what you did there. ;)
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Phoenix.Fondue said: Lets be real for a minute, the only red mage i'm on most of the time is this one Asura.Dajociont said: i think quetz lost all credibility with that ring hiccup, but anyway, on with the lol
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Sorry, I don't solo things because drop rates are 0% without procs or TH. I don't enjoy wasting time(mine and maybe other peoples who want to kill that NM for drops too), I'd rather trio it NIN + WHM + BLM and kill it in ~5 mins while also proccing yellow.
I rage really hard when some idiot is soloing something in abyssea without even proccing it. Sylph.Kiaru said: Sorry, I don't solo things because drop rates are 0% without procs or TH. I don't enjoy wasting time. Implying I haven't gotten jewels and cards of ardor without yellow !!. Oh wait, all the ones I have so far are from soloing it. :/ You shouldn't even be wasting your time talking about soloing ***if you don't do it, kthx. Sylph.Kiaru said: Sorry, I don't solo things because drop rates are 0% without procs or TH. I don't enjoy wasting time. Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: Asura.Dajociont said: i think quetz lost all credibility with that ring hiccup, but anyway, on with the lol telling someone you don't care shows you do, or you wouldn't say ***to begin with, butttttttttt ok
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