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 Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-08-12 15:45:56
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said:
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you're now making a general statement that implies idiots have common sense?

People shouting for groups generally follow powerful jobs (which is why SAM ONRY was so rampant at 75 cap), and it doesn't take much brainpower to figure out that RDM inside Abyssea is purely supplementary and adds little.

I'm not crucifying RDM or saying nobody should play it etc, just stating the harsh facts. I too loved RDM once.




and still do for .. reasons

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Oh, I see so you want rdm to be broken awesome? Well if that's it then I'll just go ask the devs!


Well you want something which makes RDM excellent, rather than "WHM with slightly more powerful enfeebles but much inferior healing"
I do want something that makes rdm excellent but asking to be able to land enfeebs on everything is unrealistic. I'd prefer to focus on asking for things we might actually get but most of all a change in the system that's put my chapeau in storage.

Enfeebling that was more in lines with buffs would make the whole experience much more enjoyable.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-08-12 15:48:08
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Sylph.Kiaru said:
RDM has A+ enfeebling and is the enfeebling specialist, it should be able to enfeeble EVERYTHING.
Uhh...

Old content you can enfeeble everything now, if that's what you want.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-08-12 15:53:52
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Sylph.Kiaru said:
RDM has A+ enfeebling and is the enfeebling specialist, it should be able to enfeeble EVERYTHING.
Uhh...

Old content you can enfeeble everything now, if that's what you want.
That's just the thing, you can't. There are mobs from all over the game that are immune to certain things. There are level 20 mobs that are completely immune to some of my level 90's debuffs. I'm honestly fine by that but it's just that the overwhelming majority of nms are immune to most if not all the useful enfeebs and if they aren't then most other jobs can land just fine.

I don't want to be able to put any enfeeb on any mob, just a few would be nice and make resist rates more balanced.
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By Cathaldus 2011-08-12 16:05:40
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Sylph.Kiaru said:
RDM has A+ enfeebling and is the enfeebling specialist, it should be able to enfeeble EVERYTHING.
Uhh...

Old content you can enfeeble everything now, if that's what you want.

And so can every other job, any enfeeble that can land more or less any job can land it as well.

Besides, I'd much rather they focus on the enhancing side of RDM to the point it is the enhancer and not an inferior one to WHM since it's what SE has deemed RDM as.
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2011-08-12 16:05:48
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Not to mention the fact some mobs that are extremely resistant/almost immune to some of our enfeebles can be enfeebled by a blu using a blue magic spell with an additinal effect of that enfeeble <_< Pisses me off so much when I see that happen.

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Old content you can enfeeble everything now, if that's what you want.
Old content a nin/dnc can solo <_< Enfeebles only being landable when mobs are so weak they aren't needed = horrible design.
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-08-12 16:14:57
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16 pages :0
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-08-12 16:16:36
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Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
16 pages :0
Yeah...quite overwhelming... x_x
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-08-12 16:20:09
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
16 pages :0
Yeah...quite overwhelming... x_x
Except only 3 of them really are about the upcoming adjustments, and that's being generous. The rest is just RDM "talk"
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-08-12 16:24:16
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Unsurprising though, given the underwhelming subject matter that was given to discuss originally.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-08-12 16:30:44
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Siren.Kalilla said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
16 pages :0
Yeah...quite overwhelming... x_x
Except only 3 of them really are about the upcoming adjustments, and that's being generous. The rest is just RDM "talk"
That's usually how it goes for FFXIAH.

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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-08-12 16:34:11
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Siren.Kalilla said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
16 pages :0
Yeah...quite overwhelming... x_x
Except only 3 of them really are about the upcoming adjustments, and that's being generous. The rest is just RDM "talk"
That's usually how it goes for FFXIAH.

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4. PROFIT?
Well, I think its actually Lost for #4, but basially
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-08-12 16:41:19
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Gotta be the very first to post update info, that way you can feel all special inside.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-12 16:47:29
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Gotta be the very first to post update info, that way you can feel all special inside.

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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-08-12 17:12:12
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Gotta be the very first to post update info, that way you can feel all special inside.

inorite
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-08-12 20:57:36
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stuff that will fix rdm.
cure5, demi, confuse,berserk,haste2 (a good one to make rdm almost/always useful),~~~REFLECT~~~ ,a spell or ability that weak target resistance to enfeebling by a lot

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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-08-12 21:07:04
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I know what will fix RDM

Give them the power to cast Razed Ruin.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-08-12 21:07:28
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Sorry Dood, War already took Beserk and Demi/reflect are a tad too Gamebreaking~
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-08-12 21:58:35
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Fenrir.Leoheart said:
Sorry Dood, War already took Beserk and Demi/reflect are a tad too Gamebreaking~
spells not /ja :p
theres actually a berserk spell on the dats, and reflect
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-08-12 22:32:39
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Demi is already in the game but it sucks lol, its Diabolos 2hr
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-08-12 23:58:33
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Fenrir.Leoheart said:
Sorry Dood, War already took Beserk and Demi/reflect are a tad too Gamebreaking~
If Demi was in the game, it would be a Dark Magic nuke like the Banish/Holy line. Holy's dark equivalent would be Scathe.

Reflect wouldn't be gamebreaking if it wasn't exactly a 100% Reflect rate.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-08-13 00:04:20
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We have Reflect, its called Gallent's Roll! :P
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-08-13 00:07:31
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Sylph.Kimble said:
We have Reflect, its called Gallent's Roll! :P
Those are spikes, not actually spell reflection
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-08-13 00:08:44
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"grants a damage reflection effect"

They had to tone it down obviously, it's not going to be a true Reflect.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-08-13 00:12:54
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Yeah was kinda messing around but its the closest you're gunna get to reflect. Most they can do is take that and turn it into a spell.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-08-13 00:17:09
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Is there even a way it could even be programmed to make it like true reflect? Perhaps based off Greater Colibri mimic with a little bit of touching up?
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-08-13 09:12:15
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Is there even a way it could even be programmed to make it like true reflect? Perhaps based off Greater Colibri mimic with a little bit of touching up?
Switch the target midcast and make a shiney reflect animation go off on the original target? Either way though this would have to be severely limited or they wouldn't do it. Sounds like more of a pld thing anyway.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2011-08-13 13:47:38
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Is there even a way it could even be programmed to make it like true reflect? Perhaps based off Greater Colibri mimic with a little bit of touching up?
Switch the target midcast and make a shiney reflect animation go off on the original target? Either way though this would have to be severely limited or they wouldn't do it. Sounds like more of a pld thing anyway.
Sounds more like a blu thing to me. Counterstance of the magic variety.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2011-08-13 13:49:57
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Actually a magic Counterstance sounds very rdm to me.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-08-13 13:51:07
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Are there any significant mobs that really are purely magic casters that a rdm will have hate on consistently anymore though?
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