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By 2011-08-03 14:55:09
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2011-08-03 14:56:07
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IMPLYING ABYSSEA ISN'T EASY ALREADY.
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By Asura.Ina 2011-08-03 14:57:36
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Abyssea is easy enough as it is... compairing it to dynamis doesn't really work because in dynamis you stagger everything not just NMs. The mobs generally don't have enough HP to survive mutiple stagger attempts on WS so you kinda have to be able to stagger anytime there.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-03 14:57:42
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Proccing isn't hard, just incredibly broken. Proccing has made it so only certain jobs will ever be used, when in todays day and age it is unnecessary to limit job choices.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-08-03 14:58:28
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Triggering in Abyssea is easy enough especially since it will tell you what can trigger. The system is fine IMO. There has to be SOME challenge in getting what is essentially a free loot boost.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-08-03 14:59:40
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Someone explain OP to me.... I can't take my eyes of that hat.
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By Asura.Ina 2011-08-03 15:12:16
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Just because they both use staggers doesn't meen they are the same system...

Abyssea you have red for KIs, yellow for AF mats and blue for weapon/armor drops. Each is attained by specific WS or spells that are randomly selected from a list when the mob is aggroed.

Dynamis you have the same 3 colours but instead of affecting different things they improve the drop rate of currency in riseing ammout based off the colour. They are gotten by first killing the TEs, 3 for blue, 4 for yellow, 5 for red. Then the type of stagger is decided by the job of the mob you have targed and can be triggered by any of the apropriate action WS/JA/Magic.

It is not a continuity issue because they are 2 different systems... There is also the WoE staggers but there is hardly any info on them I have been able to find out on.
 
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By echojin 2011-08-03 15:28:22
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Fenrir.Uzugami said:
IMPLYING ABYSSEA ISN'T EASY ALREADY.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-08-03 15:45:24
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be glad you dont have more colors that need to be proc, as such used in voidwatch
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-03 15:48:25
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have you ever even done vwnm lol
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By Nevill 2011-08-03 15:50:39
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Bismarck.Misao said:
be glad you dont have more colors that need to be proc, as such used in voidwatch

People on Bismarck do voidwatch? Who are these people?
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By Bismarck.Xdudemanx 2011-08-03 15:50:40
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echojin said:
Fenrir.Uzugami said:
IMPLYING ABYSSEA ISN'T EASY ALREADY.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-08-03 15:54:01
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Nevill said:
Bismarck.Misao said:
be glad you dont have more colors that need to be proc, as such used in voidwatch

People on Bismarck do voidwatch? Who are these people?

I have joined to a couple shouts , tho really rare to see one.
got Bastok's Tier 2 done.
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2011-08-03 16:22:47
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Siren.Celestius said:
I just think there are continuity issues on the battle system used.


You might wanna stick with where you posted this 1st. On the official forums. The % of morons is higher there so your "abyssea is too hard dog" sentiment will be better received in that environment.
 
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By Shiva.Johneblaze 2011-08-03 17:25:43
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IMO it's way too hard and I think DNC should be able to get all red/yellow/blue procs that would make things way better...
Seriously tho if it is slowing your group down that much get diff procr's only time I find it at all frustrating is when it is a irongiant or shin and that's cause my connection is = to carrier pigeons.
And know what would make that hat cooler???? FIRE ^^
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-08-03 18:13:44
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While I agree that abyssea is easy there are some mobs that make procing really annoying. Is it hard? Hell no but it's a gimmick waste of my time when a mob does nothing but cast and tp move back to back or crap like iron giants that even a slight bit of latency can make it very annoying to time things.

If I ask for a challenge in a game I don't mean to make it irritating as *** with something you can't control...

I suppose if people think that taking this out would make it too easy perhaps we should make it harder by making it so you can only proc when the clock reads an even number time...
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-08-03 18:20:17
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guise we should get a JA that lest us take 0 dmg n b up every 5m. den we shud get a ja dat lets us do 3 ws in a row wit 100 tp. den we should b able 2 dual weld pole arms n b like a battle lancer.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-03 18:20:20
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Siren.Celestius said:
They fixed triggering weakness so that we wouldn't have to wait until the NM is finished casting/tp move/misc. animations like Gigas throwing rocks and Cerb howling?

I just find it annoying how you're trying to stagger something like Tunga and it wont stop casting. I mean you can stagger anytime in Dynamis and Voidwatch, you can even stagger when it's staggered if you're lucky.

I don't see it as making things too easy, rather fixing something that's flawed and could save a lot of time on others, but what are your thoughts on it?
No, it would still be way too hard for me.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-08-03 18:24:59
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I find getting the currency needed for a relic to be inconvenient.
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By Sylph.Venlo 2011-08-03 18:28:57
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
guise we should get a JA that lest us take 0 dmg n b up every 5m. den we shud get a ja dat lets us do 3 ws in a row wit 100 tp. den we should b able 2 dual weld pole arms n b like a battle lancer.

> Implying a real battle lancer would use any less than six polearms.



GET ON MY LEVEL.
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By Shiva.Johneblaze 2011-08-04 13:17:42
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
guise we should get a JA that lest us take 0 dmg n b up every 5m. den we shud get a ja dat lets us do 3 ws in a row wit 100 tp. den we should b able 2 dual weld pole arms n b like a battle lancer.
these idea's are more realistic than some of the bs I have read on the official SE forums
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By Shiva.Johneblaze 2011-08-04 13:19:15
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Sylph.Venlo said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
guise we should get a JA that lest us take 0 dmg n b up every 5m. den we shud get a ja dat lets us do 3 ws in a row wit 100 tp. den we should b able 2 dual weld pole arms n b like a battle lancer.
> Implying a real battle lancer would use any less than six polearms. GET ON MY LEVEL.
that crazy drg farmed 6 emp polearms 0.o