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 Sylph.Deathknight
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By Sylph.Deathknight 2011-08-03 12:32:31
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Odin.Hitoseijuro said:
now adding hassoZanshin+ Iskishoten
Wait, we're meriting for our <5% miss rating now?

Also:
Odin.Hitoseijuro said:
Im sure theres a star among us that ws everytime exactly at 100tp though.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-08-03 12:35:00
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Sylph.Deathknight said:
Odin.Hitoseijuro said:
now adding hassoZanshin+ Iskishoten
Wait, we're meriting for our <5% miss rating now?

SE implemented (or says that they will be implementing) an adjustment to zanshin so that it can go off even if you do not miss (while hasso is up IIRC).

Ragnarok.Amador said:
Thanks to the "zanshin proc on non-miss" update all samurai's now have a semi 3-hit build
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-03 12:37:28
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Ragnarok.Ashman said:
Sylph.Deathknight said:
Odin.Hitoseijuro said:
now adding hassoZanshin+ Iskishoten
Wait, we're meriting for our <5% miss rating now?

SE implemented (or says that they will be implementing) an adjustment to zanshin so that it can go off even if you do not miss (while hasso is up IIRC).


This was implemented last update and the "pseudo DA" from zanshin is ZanshinRate/4.

So a naked SAM90 will "double attack" from Zanshin about 10% of the time while Hasso is up.

inb4 old newz
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By Carbuncle.Godzzz 2011-08-03 12:46:13
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I was thinking with the pride of the samurai thing, if a sam gets to 1hp they could possibly take 0 dmg for like 10 seconds or 5 seconds or something that wouldnt be too overpowered and do whatever they can to kill the target and if they dont succeed in that time limit they die? Honestly I wouldnt like any drastic changes to have happened before Abyssea but that happened so I might as well give my crazy ideas. Good or bad idea?
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2011-08-03 12:54:55
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Give SAM a doom aura. Maybe then they will be satisfied.
(Doom aura has 30yalm radius)
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2011-08-03 12:56:35
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Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Give SAM a doom aura. Maybe then they will be satisfied. (Doom aura has 30yalm radius)

Actually it should have a 100 yalm radius and be attained at level one so they can run aroudn zones and level up in about 3 seconds. Also NMs shouldn't be able to resist the doom aura, so it allows them to solo anything.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-08-03 12:57:30
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Sam should be able to skillchain with the enemies.
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2011-08-03 13:01:51
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Sylph.Systematicchaos said:
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Give SAM a doom aura. Maybe then they will be satisfied. (Doom aura has 30yalm radius)

Actually it should have a 100 yalm radius and be attained at level one so they can run aroudn zones and level up in about 3 seconds. Also NMs shouldn't be able to resist the doom aura, so it allows them to solo anything.

and they get 250% flee ability that last 10mins w/ a 5min recast job trait
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-03 13:05:28
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also at level 30 they get an instaproc JA that will give all procs, TH15, and a 30 minute terror effect
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-08-03 13:06:21
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Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Sylph.Systematicchaos said:
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Give SAM a doom aura. Maybe then they will be satisfied. (Doom aura has 30yalm radius)

Actually it should have a 100 yalm radius and be attained at level one so they can run aroudn zones and level up in about 3 seconds. Also NMs shouldn't be able to resist the doom aura, so it allows them to solo anything.

and they get 250% flee ability that last 10mins w/ a 5min recast job trait

my war already has that.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2011-08-03 13:06:43
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wait someone suggested on-event as a job addition? ballsy...
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-08-03 13:16:54
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Zoro ftw~

SE should give SAM the ability to do a WS with 0 TP.
IF the SAM where to miss such WS for any reason, the SAM should drop dead even if at full HP by seppuku~
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2011-08-03 13:17:53
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I think they should give all these things to PUP :/
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By Fenrir.Lillaly 2011-08-03 13:18:27
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Obviously you forgot to give SAM a Jobtrait like Martial arts, but we can call its Bushido Art, and it reduces their Delay by 10% (stacking) per trait.
They also get it every 10 levels starting at level 9.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-08-03 13:20:26
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lv10 JA, copy of Zantetsuken that can't miss.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-08-03 15:38:42
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i want this many
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2011-08-03 15:46:19
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Quetzalcoatl.Janeiro said:
Why tri when you can double it!

*** love this character on that game (Azure Dragon, from Devil Kings). And no, he just uses 3 in one hand, sorta like a Wolverine with Katanas instead of Adamantine claws.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-03 15:50:19
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Sylph.Systematicchaos said:
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Give SAM a doom aura. Maybe then they will be satisfied. (Doom aura has 30yalm radius)

Actually it should have a 100 yalm radius and be attained at level one so they can run aroudn zones and level up in about 3 seconds. Also NMs shouldn't be able to resist the doom aura, so it allows them to solo anything.

and they get 250% flee ability that last 10mins w/ a 5min recast job trait

my war already has that.

My BRD, MNK and WHM too!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mintpudding 2011-08-03 15:54:30
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Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn said:


i want this many

I know each of these have already been mentioned, but why not just combine all the ideas into one... just give sam the auto-ability "Unlimited Blade Works"... they should also have access to a bankai form of their weapon... they can hold a third katana like zoro does, but not in their mouth, I can think of a better place to shove the hilt of a third GK... seigan and hasso can be up at the same time and third eye will never go away and will have 100% counter rate... zanshin would proc 1000% of the time... overwhelm would KO an enemy, even NM's, which is where the 3rd expertly placed sword comes in handy when trying to proc weakness... and the only job that could rival them in damage would be DRK and the only one to out tank them would be PLD.

Lets just eliminate all other jobs and make the whole game unlimited blade SAM's, cut yourself so you can bleed with your enemy DRK's, and masochist PLD's who like it when they get hit.
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By Pooman 2011-08-03 15:55:38
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Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Give SAM a doom aura. Maybe then they will be satisfied.
(Doom aura has 30yalm radius)
Hidden effect: hits allies also.
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-08-03 16:04:11
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Give sam a JA where they can *** grow extra arms and wield extra ***and get an exponential TP rate gain for each additional GK they use and multihit/crit all of their weaponskills with 150% str mods.



Needing two hands for a larger weapon solved... ***.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-08-03 16:20:27
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Asura.Arkanethered said:
Give sam a JA where they can *** grow extra arms and wield extra ***and get an exponential TP rate gain for each additional GK they use and multihit/crit all of their weaponskills with 150% str mods.



Needing two hands for a larger weapon solved... ***.

Galka Sams Onry!
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-08-03 16:55:22
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=
some rope and assembly required.

now they can ws while they ws
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By Cerberus.Volkomir 2011-08-03 17:18:51
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Odin.Daemun said:
Ragnarok.Amador said:
Their 2hr should be a 10 min ability, and their new 2hr should be replaced by 60 seconds worth of 0 TP cost WS's.

^-^ done.
That's like a free brew every 2 hrs. Think of the mobs SAM could solo with 20-22 free WS

Manafont lets BLM cast magic without the use of MP.....so why not have unlimited WS without using TP for 30 sec?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-08-03 21:14:09
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By Deemos 2011-09-22 20:39:46
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I absolutely loved this thread, please continue argumenting
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-09-22 20:47:59
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Go bring it up on the official forums again.
 
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