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Mog Bonanza 7/14/11
 Remora.Dodu
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-13 15:20:02
Sylph.Kimble said: As far as mythics go, PUP, WHM, DRG are the best ones to make. After that would be COR, DNC.
Nirvana, Laevateinn?
And you seem to have a double standard when it comes to rating them. BST, RDM, BRD, and PLD's weapons are all the best options for the purpose they're intended to serve(granted, there's dickall use for what Burtgang is meant for). I'd argue that, in that sense, BRD, RDM, and BST are all going to be significantly more beneficial than, say, Yagrush.
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By Fenrir.Kaioshin 2011-07-13 15:20:37
Gimmeursellables has apoc and we know from first hand its sucks, its lvl 85 too.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-07-13 15:21:00
I guess I should reactivate my account so I can redeem my possible rewards lol.
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2011-07-13 15:21:42
Remora.Dodu said: Sylph.Kimble said: As far as mythics go, PUP, WHM, DRG are the best ones to make. After that would be COR, DNC.
Nirvana, Laevateinn?
And you seem to have a double standard when it comes to rating them. BST, RDM, BRD, and PLD's weapons are all the best options for the purpose they're intended to serve(granted, there's dickall use for what Burtgang is meant for). I'd argue that, in that sense, BRD, RDM, and BST are all going to be significantly more beneficial than, say, Yagrush.
Augment convert is more important the Status Ailments? O.o;
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By Fenrir.Kaioshin 2011-07-13 15:21:54
See I wanted nagi for looks and constant /checks and /slaps for having a useless weapon dual wield with my Kannagi. Then I felt like getting serious and hands down for the jobs at 90 that I have, Death Penalty on my Cor is the hotness.
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By Fenrir.Kaioshin 2011-07-13 15:23:04
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: I guess I should reactivate my account so I can redeem my possible rewards lol.
Did you buy the marbles then deactivate? Because the sales have stopped.
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-13 15:23:59
Siren.Inuyushi said: Artemicion said: For those that are srsbsns about FFXI and whatnot, which Mythic weapons are considered to be worthwhile for their class?
Ryunohige for DRG is top dog, Death Penalty is sweet for COR but Armagedon is right up there with it if not on top (idk), WHM's Mythic is awesome for constant Divine Veil status (as stated above also Alliance AoE), DNC's dagger give them more steps (unknown how many), Kenkoken (sp) for PUP makes them able to give commands without the Puppet overheating (or w/e it's called), Nirvana is the best Magic Attack staff for a Summoner, other than that it's just meh. As for the others, they're just fancy. Burtgang is best -PDT for PLD. Those are the ones off the top of my head.
Kenkoken is good because of it lessens overload, and Nirvana is lackluster other than it being miles ahead of any other weapon that boosts summoner's most powerful pacts? lol'd
By Artemicion 2011-07-13 15:24:08
My favorite classes (amongst the 4 characters I have) are DRG, COR, MNK and SCH, so I suppose it was worth looking into how great Ryunohige and Death Penalty is. Though Armageddon is probably significantly more powerful in the damage department, I'm sure from backup buffer position, the QD augment from Death Penalty is pretty sweet. Just need to find more reliable information about it.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-13 15:24:18
Remora.Dodu said: Sylph.Kimble said: As far as mythics go, PUP, WHM, DRG are the best ones to make. After that would be COR, DNC.
Nirvana, Laevateinn?
And you seem to have a double standard when it comes to rating them. BST, RDM, BRD, and PLD's weapons are all the best options for the purpose they're intended to serve(granted, there's dickall use for what Burtgang is meant for). I'd argue that, in that sense, BRD, RDM, and BST are all going to be significantly more beneficial than, say, Yagrush. Talked to a blm friend about it and he told me that magian staves are better...what's the point of that staff?
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-13 15:24:53
Siren.Inuyushi said: Remora.Dodu said: Sylph.Kimble said: As far as mythics go, PUP, WHM, DRG are the best ones to make. After that would be COR, DNC.
Nirvana, Laevateinn?
And you seem to have a double standard when it comes to rating them. BST, RDM, BRD, and PLD's weapons are all the best options for the purpose they're intended to serve(granted, there's dickall use for what Burtgang is meant for). I'd argue that, in that sense, BRD, RDM, and BST are all going to be significantly more beneficial than, say, Yagrush.
Augment convert is more important the Status Ailments? O.o;
When you'd only be healing AoE statuses once a month? Yeah, I'd say so.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-13 15:25:43
Remora.Dodu said: When you'd only be healing AoE statuses once a month? Yeah, I'd say so. wat?
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-13 15:25:51
Phoenix.Sehachan said: Remora.Dodu said:
Nirvana, Laevateinn?
And you seem to have a double standard when it comes to rating them. BST, RDM, BRD, and PLD's weapons are all the best options for the purpose they're intended to serve(granted, there's dickall use for what Burtgang is meant for). I'd argue that, in that sense, BRD, RDM, and BST are all going to be significantly more beneficial than, say, Yagrush.
Talked to a blm friend about it and he told me that magian staves are better...what's the point of that staff?
For precast, sure. Laevateinn has been better for damage for a while now.
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2011-07-13 15:25:55
Remora.Dodu said: Sylph.Kimble said: As far as mythics go, PUP, WHM, DRG are the best ones to make. After that would be COR, DNC.
Nirvana, Laevateinn?
And you seem to have a double standard when it comes to rating them. BST, RDM, BRD, and PLD's weapons are all the best options for the purpose they're intended to serve(granted, there's dickall use for what Burtgang is meant for). I'd argue that, in that sense, BRD, RDM, and BST are all going to be significantly more beneficial than, say, Yagrush. The question was which are worthwhile. They all have uses. You could argue even Nagi is useful as a situational piece for whenever you're going to blow up to save your WHM the hassle of cure 6ing you (...)
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-07-13 15:26:55
Fenrir.Kaioshin said: Leviathan.Catnipthief said: I guess I should reactivate my account so I can redeem my possible rewards lol.
Did you buy the marbles then deactivate? Because the sales have stopped.
Yeah I bought them on my main ... I can't remember if I bought on mule but meh idc lol.
I'm on gonna reactivate for a month or two at most then just die out again.
I guess if I were to pick a mythic it would have to be ryunohiga since that's the first job I really seriously leveled ('cept now it's one of my worst geared jobs lol) more so I would get it just for the hell of it lol.
All the rest I dunno.
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By Asura.Fuuneko 2011-07-13 15:27:08
Rank 1: Ryunohige
Rank 2: Cat's Eye
Rank 3: Ares's Cuirass or Morrigan's Robe. Just because.
Rank 4: Love Torque
Rank 5: Pest Repellent
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-13 15:27:36
I forgot about SMN mythic. That is worth it as well.
TBH havent kept up with Laevateinn because at 75 it was barely an improvement but seeing what it gets at 90, that would be up there as well.
RDM still doesnt seem all that great. Unless im not understanding the covert augment.
BRD, PLD has uses. But wouldn't put them up there with the other mythics.
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-13 15:27:38
Phoenix.Sehachan said: Remora.Dodu said: When you'd only be healing AoE statuses once a month? Yeah, I'd say so. wat?
Other than farming Chloris with far more than the necessary amount of people(because they were holding pop sets), I can't remember the last time Yagrush would have been useful for anything I've done.
By Artemicion 2011-07-13 15:27:52
I think Mythics hold a lot of appeal to me because they enhance particular background functions of a class, rather than being the accurate high damage end all super damage machine like Relics and Empyreans are. Since I solo/lowman a lot, I suppose having some extra defensive or offensive function with my JAs would be somewhat as beneficial as dishing out extra damage, assuming that's what the job was meant to do in the first place.
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2011-07-13 15:28:36
Remora.Dodu said: For precast, sure. Laevateinn has been better for damage for a while now. Are you talking about when using ES? ES will win, yes. Otherwise +2 will beat it every time unless you're hit with some heavy MAB down effect.
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-13 15:28:58
Ragnarok.Kongming said: Remora.Dodu said: Sylph.Kimble said: As far as mythics go, PUP, WHM, DRG are the best ones to make. After that would be COR, DNC.
Nirvana, Laevateinn?
And you seem to have a double standard when it comes to rating them. BST, RDM, BRD, and PLD's weapons are all the best options for the purpose they're intended to serve(granted, there's dickall use for what Burtgang is meant for). I'd argue that, in that sense, BRD, RDM, and BST are all going to be significantly more beneficial than, say, Yagrush. The question was which are worthwhile. They all have uses. You could argue even Nagi is useful as a situational piece for whenever you're going to blow up to save your WHM the hassle of cure 6ing you (...)
Which is why I'm confused. Until new content proves otherwise, you'd unarguably use a Convert augment more than you would Yagrush, and a Convert augment is pretty damn awful. What does that say about Yagrush?
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-13 15:29:36
Ragnarok.Kongming said: Remora.Dodu said: For precast, sure. Laevateinn has been better for damage for a while now. Are you talking about when using ES? ES will win, yes. Otherwise +2 will beat it every time unless you're hit with some heavy MAB down effect.
Source please.
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By Asura.Floorboss 2011-07-13 15:34:52
Rank 1 Failed
Rank 2 Failed
Rank 3 Failed
Rank 4 Failed
Rank 5 I might have a 1/1000000 change to win
For the few times I have played I have only hit Rank 5 1 time. So in my opinion its a waste of space to get ballz
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-07-13 15:35:46
Can't lose rank 5 if you get each of your marbles ending in a different digit.
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2011-07-13 15:36:12
Remora.Dodu said: When you'd only be healing AoE statuses once a month? Yeah, I'd say so.
I havn't converted in around a month, shoot. And when I convert having the extra MP is just to top me off on Cures....blah anyway. RDM sword would just be a trophy for a top RDM. WHM's club is hardcore, RDM sword has nothing on it.
this thread has derailed to which Mythic is best me thinks...
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By Fenrir.Kaioshin 2011-07-13 15:37:20
Asura.Floorboss said: Rank 1 Failed
Rank 2 Failed
Rank 3 Failed
Rank 4 Failed
Rank 5 I might have a 1/1000000 change to win
For the few times I have played I have only hit Rank 5 1 time. So in my opinion its a waste of space to get ballz
You failed math didnt you?
Rank 5 is calculated by the last number in the draw. If you change the last number for all 10 of your marbles to end in number 0 through 9 you will always win 1 rank 5 out of every 10 marbles you purchase.
Go back to school.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-13 15:37:58
Siren.Inuyushi said: Remora.Dodu said: When you'd only be healing AoE statuses once a month? Yeah, I'd say so.
I havn't converted in around a month, shoot. And when I convert having the extra MP is just to top me off on Cures....blah anyway. RDM sword would just be a trophy for a top RDM. WHM's club is hardcore, RDM sword has nothing on it.
this thread has derailed to which Mythic is best me thinks...
Well if someone wins rank 1 and chooses mythic, we want to make sure they get something they will get the most use out of :P
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By Fenrir.Kaioshin 2011-07-13 15:38:04
Valefor.Prothescar said: Can't lose rank 5 if you get each of your marbles ending in a different digit.
Damnit pro beat me too it.
Remora.Dodu
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-13 15:41:26
Siren.Inuyushi said: Remora.Dodu said: When you'd only be healing AoE statuses once a month? Yeah, I'd say so.
I havn't converted in around a month, shoot. And when I convert having the extra MP is just to top me off on Cures....blah anyway. RDM sword would just be a trophy for a top RDM. WHM's club is hardcore, RDM sword has nothing on it.
this thread has derailed to which Mythic is best me thinks...
There's always something to do with your MP. If you're not converting, you're not making full use of your job's capabilities.
And you still haven't addressed the fact that Yagrush's augment, which is admittedly pretty great, has virtually no use right now.
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By Siren.Mosin 2011-07-13 15:47:24
1) Verenthragna (idgaf, I made the WoE version already was a pain)
2) Twilight Cloak (blm go boooooommmm)
3) Hachiryu Hiadate (idk on this one really open for suggestions)
4) Faith Torque (would be happiest with this rank, actually)
5) /puke (who cares)
Rank 1 Prize: What would you choose
Rank 2
Rank 3
Rank 4
Rank 5
I'm just wondering what ppl think is the most valuable prize for each rank.
for me it would prolly be
Rank 1 = Gil even tho i would realy want those Glanzfaust
Verethragna
Rank 2 = eh prolly black belt
Rank 3 = Roundel Earring so i can sell it
Rank 4 = +1 armor
Rank 5 = QQ
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