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Mog Bonanza 7/14/11
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By Phoenix.Slytribal 2011-07-14 15:54:50
I created 8 more characters purely so I could get a Love Torque... And I win the torque on my main character x.x Least I got a bunch of Ark Angel statues too. Nothing else though
By erroneous42 2011-07-14 15:57:26
I don't feel it's rigged but I don't exacly think its 100% random. I believe that se doesn't allow 1 ball to ever have 2 winning possibilities. For example, rank 5 the number is 4 therefore none of the other ranks will end in the last digit 4 and so on through the ranks. So in my theory it is a controlled selection process
. Now one would need prior drawing results to back this up of course.
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2011-07-14 16:15:07
erroneous42 said: I don't feel it's rigged but I don't exacly think its 100% random. I believe that se doesn't allow 1 ball to ever have 2 winning possibilities. For example, rank 5 the number is 4 therefore none of the other ranks will end in the last digit 4 and so on through the ranks. So in my theory it is a controlled selection process
. Now one would need prior drawing results to back this up of course.
Looked up previous years cause I had wondered that earlier but Rank 5 and Rank 1 could have shared last year. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Mog_Bonanza_2010-2%2FWinning_Numbers
By erroneous42 2011-07-14 16:31:39
FAILZERKER...well that kills my theory lol
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2011-07-14 16:34:45
erroneous42 said: I don't feel it's rigged but I don't exacly think its 100% random. I believe that se doesn't allow 1 ball to ever have 2 winning possibilities. For example, rank 5 the number is 4 therefore none of the other ranks will end in the last digit 4 and so on through the ranks. So in my theory it is a controlled selection process
. Now one would need prior drawing results to back this up of course.
Also, they do say that if your number matches more than one winning number, you win the higher prize.
Quetzalcoatl.Yomisha
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By Quetzalcoatl.Yomisha 2011-07-14 17:02:44
First time I didn't win anything above a rank 5. =/
Bahamut.Echojin
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By Bahamut.Echojin 2011-07-14 17:04:50
2nd year in a row I tried to procrastinate buying marbles until the last day and then forgot... :/
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By Shiva.Msthief 2011-07-14 17:31:36
What I'd like to know is how many individual people won what and how many marbles the average person purchased. So like, if the average person bought 50 marbles and half of them won a rank 4, 5% of the population won a rank3, etc.
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By Bahamut.Zellc 2011-07-14 17:33:01
Bahamut.Echojin said: 2nd year in a row I tried to procrastinate buying marbles until the last day and then forgot... :/
you and me both buddy D:
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Carbuncle.Axle
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-07-14 17:37:52
i won 5 rank 4's..... on my TH char. Guess i'll get a Love Torque and some random stuff.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-07-14 18:43:56
Carbuncle.Axle said: i won 5 rank 4's..... on my TH char. Guess i'll get a Love Torque and some random stuff.
you know you can mule that equip now to your main right?
I won two rank 4s. Not sure what to get honestly.
Lakshmi.Sake
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By Lakshmi.Sake 2011-07-14 18:48:40
Phoenix.Slytribal said: I created 8 more characters purely so I could get a Love Torque... And I win the torque on my main character x.x Least I got a bunch of Ark Angel statues too. Nothing else though
Same thing happened to me for a torque.. lol
Lakshmi.Sake
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By Lakshmi.Sake 2011-07-14 18:49:54
Shiva.Xellith said: Carbuncle.Axle said: i won 5 rank 4's..... on my TH char. Guess i'll get a Love Torque and some random stuff. you know you can mule that equip now to your main right? I won two rank 4s. Not sure what to get honestly.
Sounds like he won it on a second account.. can't transfer that to your first.
Phoenix.Kirana
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-07-14 19:23:48
There is no such thing as "completely random". All "random" numbers are generated using programming algorithms which produce "seemingly random" numbers. If you knew exactly what information was going into the algorithm, AND you knew what the algorithm was, you could figure out what "random" number would be produced. However, these algorithms are very complex, and it is often unknown exactly what information is being entered into the algorithm. I ASSUME that SE uses an algorithm which gives each possible number an equal likelihood of being produced, in which case your odds of winning are easily calculable (which was done earlier in this thread).
Carbuncle.Axle
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-07-14 19:24:03
Lakshmi.Sake said: Shiva.Xellith said: Carbuncle.Axle said: i won 5 rank 4's..... on my TH char. Guess i'll get a Love Torque and some random stuff. you know you can mule that equip now to your main right? I won two rank 4s. Not sure what to get honestly.
Sounds like he won it on a second account.. can't transfer that to your first.
Ya, on alt.
Love Torque, Noct Helm, Valhalla head, war body x10, not sure on 5th. Char is also our cleave war. Have 90 brd on her, but not sure if i want to bother wasting rank4 on brd body seals.
Bahamut.Aeronis
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-07-14 19:33:47
Carbuncle.Axle said: Have 90 brd on her, but not sure if i want to bother wasting rank4 on brd body seals. Blanga is cake and drops BRD seals pretty often.
Carbuncle.Axle
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-07-14 19:35:27
Bahamut.Aeronis said: Carbuncle.Axle said: Have 90 brd on her, but not sure if i want to bother wasting rank4 on brd body seals. Blanga is cake and drops BRD seals pretty often.
Oh shi.... forgot about blanga, think she has 4-6/10 on brd..... damn now i don't know what
Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan
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By Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan 2011-07-14 20:01:57
I just wish rank 5 was Pitchfork, I'd totally get that :\ curse you halloween!
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By Aldiel 2011-07-14 20:41:50
Who all won rank 1 and what did you choose?
Phoenix.Ingraham
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By Phoenix.Ingraham 2011-07-14 21:03:29
You never hear anything about rank 1 winners. The moogles are sure to "take care of them" as soon as possible.
I can only assume rank 1 winners attempt to trade in their marble for a weapon ASAP to defend themselves with... but it's always too late.
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By Sylph.Etoilemourante 2011-07-14 21:22:42
Rank 3 , 4 and 5 on main Caracter ( take Hachiryu haidate for rank 3 and dunno wat i can take with second rank 4... already have love torque ) + 1 other rank 4 on mule ( take justice torque on mule ) and 14 rank 5 , 14 statues...
Cerberus.Kadia
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By Cerberus.Kadia 2011-07-14 21:57:29
i was fortunate to win rank 2 this year :D
but not having mnk and hating the job i dont want a black belt. i have twilight gear and its easy to get, why waste it? i dont fish so silk/shoot goes out the window. most people would obviously choose cat's eye cuz 30,000 alex is stupid long to get. thing is im still PSC, on floor 10 in nyzul, never done either salvage or einharier(sp?). so i my question is should i get the cat's eye even though its only 1 long part of an extremly long line of quests or play it save and go gil/novio(selling)?
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-14 22:05:49
Cerberus.Kadia said: i was fortunate to win rank 2 this year :D
but not having mnk and hating the job i dont want a black belt. i have twilight gear and its easy to get, why waste it? i dont fish so silk/shoot goes out the window. most people would obviously choose cat's eye cuz 30,000 alex is stupid long to get. thing is im still PSC, on floor 10 in nyzul, never done either salvage or einharier(sp?). so i my question is should i get the cat's eye even though its only 1 long part of an extremly long line of quests or play it save and go gil/novio(selling)? Getting cat's eye is a really big commitment, especially in your shoes, it will take a while to obtain a mythic, but if you have friends who are willing to help you with everything else like the ZNMs, Einherjar, Nyzul, Assaults, redoing Assaults, Aht Urhgan missons (if you don't have those done), and are willing to stay committed to getting through the burdon of creating one of rarest items in the game, then go for it. Otherwise if you don't have such resources, or just don't want to commit to making something that requires so much effort, go for another option much more profitable to you.
tl;dr are "hardcore" and dedicated = cat's eye
"casual" and don't want the burdon of always working on something, or feeling obligated = next best thing
Cerberus.Kadia
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By Cerberus.Kadia 2011-07-14 22:15:07
i have the friends to help, and i know its a big commitment. the way i see it though, is i would eventually get it right? if i make an effort to work at it that is. 6~8mil can be gone in a day if i wanted to spend it all. idk, what im tryin to say is in the end would a vajra be worth the time spent?
inb4 lolvajra <.< at 90, its pretty pimp with +25% SA and TA.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-14 22:19:52
Cerberus.Kadia said: i have the friends to help, and i know its a big commitment. the way i see it though, is i would eventually get it right? if i make an effort to work at it that is. 6~8mil can be gone in a day if i wanted to spend it all. idk, what im tryin to say is in the end would a vajra be worth the time spent?
inb4 lolvajra <.< at 90, its pretty pimp with +25% SA and TA. People will tell you yes/no based on the weapon, but what it all comes down to is how you feel about it. We can tell you which weapon is better than which stat-wise for the jobs you're interested in, but if you want to make a Vajra for completion, who are we to judge?
Cerberus.Valmur
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2011-07-14 22:23:11
Honestly with what I seen...No. get something else far far far far far far far far far far far far far far to much work but that's me do w/e
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-14 22:24:21
Cerberus.Valmur said: Honestly with what I seen...No. get something else far far far far far far far far far far far far far far to much work but that's me do w/e QQ
Cerberus.Kadia
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By Cerberus.Kadia 2011-07-14 22:32:38
hmmm. my only other way to go really is gil which would almost all be gone cuz i need a love torque still and i'd just buy that. bleh this is difficult :<
By Aldiel 2011-07-14 23:08:45
5.7mil can't buy a novio on my server(yet) and there's always the pandemonium key, if you get lucky, you could make more off that(Sam update to zanshin, anyone want a gkt?) or hachimaki acc att crit tp body. Dorje is bleh but there is Gil potential.
Rank 1 Prize: What would you choose
Rank 2
Rank 3
Rank 4
Rank 5
I'm just wondering what ppl think is the most valuable prize for each rank.
for me it would prolly be
Rank 1 = Gil even tho i would realy want those Glanzfaust
Verethragna
Rank 2 = eh prolly black belt
Rank 3 = Roundel Earring so i can sell it
Rank 4 = +1 armor
Rank 5 = QQ
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