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 Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-28 10:38:49
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
it was a subtle jab at religion vin, you sounded like "my beliefs towards this topic are right, and Im not filling my childs head with whats wrong" type attitude

When nothing about any of this is about right and wrong or "what really counts" because none of our beliefs are what really count they are just our beliefs
No it wasn't, you guys are just reading into it too much.
I want my hypothetical child to question the world around them as I did as a child, but I don't want them to make the same mistakes I did with my beliefs I developed growing up.
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said:
I think baptizing any child is wrong, personally. Child has no choice as to what religious ceremony it's about to be the object of.

Doesn't really sit well with me.
You say baptize, I say bath, same thing for a baby.
For my hypothetical child, sure if the one who's womb birthed the child wanted it to get baptized I'd let it, but that doesn't really mean I won't fill his/her head with what really counts.
Ouch
How is that an ouch?
I didn't say what really counts.
Of course teaching your child the way you see your world and influencing their thoughts in ideas in what you see as right/wrong is what really counts here.
Child Baptism doesn't matter for ***past tradition is why I said I'd fill their head with what really counts.
So unless you know a baby that can comprehend the importance of getting baptized, he isn't going to take anything from the experience.
Baptism of a child isn't really for the child, it's for the parent.
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By Lakshmi.Seoha 2011-06-28 10:39:46
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Vinvv!!!!!
Are you still punching the knife !?
<3

24 pages D: I should back read D:
 
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-28 10:42:06
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Lakshmi.Seoha said:
Vinvv!!!!!
Are you still punching the knife !?
<3

24 pages D: I should back read D:
Punching the knife?
I've never heard that term.
But yes, and you?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-28 10:42:46
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
if you say "what really counts" in a thread like this it's dismissive and gives a tone of "my opinion is fact and right" even without reading into the rest of your post man

but fair enough I can't doubt you're intentions and words further based on so little, I'll stop
No, you guys are just reading too much into it and attaching a religious/atheist perspective on it.
again:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:

How is that an ouch?
I didn't say what really counts.
Of course teaching your child the way you see your world and influencing their thoughts in ideas in what you see as right/wrong is what really counts here.
Child Baptism doesn't matter for ***past tradition is why I said I'd fill their head with what really counts.
So unless you know a baby that can comprehend the importance of getting baptized, he isn't going to take anything from the experience.
Baptism of a child isn't really for the child, it's for the parent.
So unless you can make an argument that there is a meaningful purpose to baptize a child outside of tradition and symbolism, by all means. If you can't I'd say my teaching my hypothetical child trumps dripping some oil on their head and saying some magic words in the bigger picture for that child.
I am not saying it's wrong to do it.
Just that it's not going to have a real impact on a baby past tradition and symbolism.
What really counts is the mind.
And if you assume I was saying a belief/disbelief in God is what really counts you are reading too much into it and are doing the almighty *** U ME
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By Lakshmi.Seoha 2011-06-28 10:45:00
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Lakshmi.Seoha said:
Vinvv!!!!!
Are you still punching the knife !?
<3

24 pages D: I should back read D:
Punching the knife?
I've never heard that term.
But yes, and you?
oh it's like ... talking about ... things that uh... you know.. gosh I can't explain. Sorry D:
Maybe "are you still around?" type of thing?

I'm good thanks =D Just keeping company! Rock on peeps o/
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