i don't understand, how is it a fact? it's made by a human, just like the bible.
it seems for a lot of you this ***consumes a lot of your time reading about evolution etc., and like i said before, i don't really care that much for it. so just bear with me.
but you didn't explain how are they less intelligent IF they have a higher IQ than you, make more money etc., doesn't that mean they're smarter than you?
maybe their God doesn't exist whatever, and yes, to believe something like that is strange, but to me, believing in God is about the same as believing in Aliens and i know some very smart people who believe in that. i don't think they're less intelligent than me, i just think they're crazy to think that.
Change over time is a fact. We have transitional forms, and we have actually observed evolution. What your talking about with the bible is totally different. The bible was never fact. It never stood up to the scientific method, not even for a minute of time. Evolution has been proven by the scientific method. If you are asserting that there is another way to know what is fact, i'd be all ears, i'm sure all scientists would too. I'm not saying science has all the answers, But so far faith has never had any answers, nor will they without proof.
There is a difference between making up a book in the bible, or misenterpreting it from god. And millions of scientists checking and checking each other over and over, trial and error making sure that change over time is real.
Are you saying that you have a better way of finding what's real in life? If so please state it. How isn't evolution fact? I'm interested in what you will have to say.
Also to add, i'm not ranting just finding a logical point to some of these peoples posts. I never said i had a higher IQ than anyone, or that i'm 100% certain god doesn't exist. However, i did say there is no logical reason for someone to believe in a god that has been described here on earth. The only logical way to believe in god is as the person that put things in motion, sat back and does nothing more. A personal god.
you don't think 2000 yrs from now people are going to be LOLing at you guys believing in evolution when a new scientist comes out with a new theory?
i don't think religion is right either, i'm just saying people can be wrong but still be smart. you can't be right about everything, and that's their mulligan.
but it really seems atheism consumes your life about as much as religion does for theists. which, to me, is interesting because i would think you'd be much more free to live your life rather than prove others to be idiots etc.,
it seems to be a waste of time to me, but i don't know cuz i really don't dwell on things of that nature and ***.
but at least you explained it to me pretty clearly for someone like me to understand.
You may be the dumbest person I've ever taken the time to actually address, or one of the best trolls. I mean that as more a retrospect, than an insult.
1. Science is adaptable. Meaning: If a new theory comes about and shows a current theory to be wrong we (pause for effect) accept the new theory and stop believing the old theory. If evolution was proven wrong (it won't be, as said before: there is more evidence for evolution than almost every other theory -ever- made, including gravity, the earth being round, and the atomic theory), we would still gladly move to a new theory IF that theory provided evidence.
That's the difference between science and religion. Religion sticks with the original theory regardless of evidence, till the end of time.
2. We're not saying people are dumb if they're religious. We're saying being religious is dumb. I have a very high IQ, but if I stuck a fork into a light socket, that would be dumb. I work directly in the science field, and you're right: There are theists here. However, and this is very important: There are a *** TON less than there are at lower levels of education.
Theism decreases exponentially as education increases.
3. Atheism doesn't "Consume our lives". The people here do however value standards on facts enough to enlighten people like you via discussion and dialogue. Dialogue that is most likely above your head.
4. Those "crazy theories" we have for evolution, cosmology, etc, have a MASSIVE amount of evidence, that if you took the time to learn, would demonstrate just how obtuse you're being in this argument.
Google the argument from ignorance, it's a standard logical fallacy that a person uses when they're attempting to say that a fact is impossible because "they cannot understand it". That's your entire argument in a nutshell.
Put down the keyboard, grab a book, and join us again in 3-4 years.
how come you get pissed off about me asking questions? i'm not saying it's not a fact, i'm asking why it IS a fact. for a person with a high IQ that ***sure WOOSHED right over your scientific head there buddy.
i think you need to get off your high horse. like i said, you seem to know a lot about this ***because you have dedicated a lot of time to it, i have told you i did the exact opposite.
and this is why, because *** like you come on here with this "omg your a dumb *** bla bla bla" it kind of turns people off when you start calling them the most dumbest person or whatever.
all i want is answers, broken down for me real quick, you know, like the jist of the *** idea. i don't wanna read a *** book, i already admitted to not being the most educated person in the world.
you just called people who have faith in something unintelligent, you being the collective brain trust you *** are supposed to be, the guys with all the answers bla bla bla.
it's the *** internet dude, this isn't Harvard, if you can't explain to a regular guy like me how this *** works the what the *** do you have a high IQ for?
you don't think 2000 yrs from now people are going to be LOLing at you guys believing in evolution when a new scientist comes out with a new theory?
i don't think religion is right either, i'm just saying people can be wrong but still be smart. you can't be right about everything, and that's their mulligan.
but it really seems atheism consumes your life about as much as religion does for theists. which, to me, is interesting because i would think you'd be much more free to live your life rather than prove others to be idiots etc.,
it seems to be a waste of time to me, but i don't know cuz i really don't dwell on things of that nature and ***.
but at least you explained it to me pretty clearly for someone like me to understand.
You may be the dumbest person I've ever taken the time to actually address, or one of the best trolls. I mean that as more a retrospect, than an insult.
1. Science is adaptable. Meaning: If a new theory comes about and shows a current theory to be wrong we (pause for effect) accept the new theory and stop believing the old theory. If evolution was proven wrong (it won't be, as said before: there is more evidence for evolution than almost every other theory -ever- made, including gravity, the earth being round, and the atomic theory), we would still gladly move to a new theory IF that theory provided evidence.
That's the difference between science and religion. Religion sticks with the original theory regardless of evidence, till the end of time.
2. We're not saying people are dumb if they're religious. We're saying being religious is dumb. I have a very high IQ, but if I stuck a fork into a light socket, that would be dumb. I work directly in the science field, and you're right: There are theists here. However, and this is very important: There are a *** TON less than there are at lower levels of education.
Theism decreases exponentially as education increases.
3. Atheism doesn't "Consume our lives". The people here do however value standards on facts enough to enlighten people like you via discussion and dialogue. Dialogue that is most likely above your head.
4. Those "crazy theories" we have for evolution, cosmology, etc, have a MASSIVE amount of evidence, that if you took the time to learn, would demonstrate just how obtuse you're being in this argument.
Google the argument from ignorance, it's a standard logical fallacy that a person uses when they're attempting to say that a fact is impossible because "they cannot understand it". That's your entire argument in a nutshell.
Put down the keyboard, grab a book, and join us again in 3-4 years.
how come you get pissed off about me asking questions? i'm not saying it's not a fact, i'm asking why it IS a fact. for a person with a high IQ that ***sure WOOSHED right over your scientific head there buddy.
i think you need to get off your high horse. like i said, you seem to know a lot about this ***because you have dedicated a lot of time to it, i have told you i did the exact opposite.
and this is why, because *** like you come on here with this "omg your a dumb *** bla bla bla" it kind of turns people off when you start calling them the most dumbest person or whatever.
all i want is answers, broken down for me real quick, you know, like the jist of the *** idea. i don't wanna read a *** book, i already admitted to not being the most educated person in the world.
you just called people who have faith in something unintelligent, you being the collective brain trust you *** are supposed to be, the guys with all the answers bla bla bla.
it's the *** internet dude, this isn't Harvard, if you can't explain to a regular guy like me how this *** works the what the *** do you have a high IQ for?
The fact you can't use any other word besides "***" shows your intelligence. You already lost this battle Beef.
First of all, nothing he said was hard to understand, so how is he not explaining it to a "regular guy"? I think your just either totally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, or playing the troll retard position on purpose. I hope its the ladder to be honest.
Geez, are you guys still going on over this gibberish?
Everyone knows evolution never happened and that museums all over the world are spreading false rhetoric with their caveman displays!
Everyone knows this moral god that lets babies be raped and murdered on a daily basis created Adam and Eve. He created Adam and Eve to start the human species, a move that anyone with a bit of common sense would realize had extreme incest going on to even be successful. So the next time you look at your sister, brother, mother, or father have no worries, your god approves entirely.
Put that in your crackpipe and smoke it for a bit.
Geez, are you guys still going on over this gibberish?
Everyone knows evolution never happened and that museums all over the world are spreading false rhetoric with their caveman displays!
Everyone knows this moral god that lets babies be raped and murdered on a daily basis created Adam and Eve. He created Adam and Eve to start the human species, a move that anyone with a bit of common sense would realize had extreme incest going on to even be successful. So the next time you look at your sister, brother, mother, or father have no worries, your god approves entirely.
Put that in your crackpipe and smoke it for a bit.
lol most of your post was funny, altho Adam and Eve and the garden of eden were totally separated from mankind. They were an experiement, they didn't start human kind, they predated it. Common misunderstanding.
Geez, are you guys still going on over this gibberish?
Everyone knows evolution never happened and that museums all over the world are spreading false rhetoric with their caveman displays!
Everyone knows this moral god that lets babies be raped and murdered on a daily basis created Adam and Eve. He created Adam and Eve to start the human species, a move that anyone with a bit of common sense would realize had extreme incest going on to even be successful. So the next time you look at your sister, brother, mother, or father have no worries, your god approves entirely.
Put that in your crackpipe and smoke it for a bit.
lol most of your post was funny, altho Adam and Eve and the garden of eden were totally separated from mankind. They were an experiement, they didn't start human kind, they predated it. Common misunderstanding.
Hey, I never said I was religious or knew all about religion. I just know a bit of it from it always being crammed down my throat by the religious. I knew Noah's wife wasn't Joan of Arc though! It was Emzara.
you don't think 2000 yrs from now people are going to be LOLing at you guys believing in evolution when a new scientist comes out with a new theory?
i don't think religion is right either, i'm just saying people can be wrong but still be smart. you can't be right about everything, and that's their mulligan.
but it really seems atheism consumes your life about as much as religion does for theists. which, to me, is interesting because i would think you'd be much more free to live your life rather than prove others to be idiots etc.,
it seems to be a waste of time to me, but i don't know cuz i really don't dwell on things of that nature and ***.
but at least you explained it to me pretty clearly for someone like me to understand.
You may be the dumbest person I've ever taken the time to actually address, or one of the best trolls. I mean that as more a retrospect, than an insult.
1. Science is adaptable. Meaning: If a new theory comes about and shows a current theory to be wrong we (pause for effect) accept the new theory and stop believing the old theory. If evolution was proven wrong (it won't be, as said before: there is more evidence for evolution than almost every other theory -ever- made, including gravity, the earth being round, and the atomic theory), we would still gladly move to a new theory IF that theory provided evidence.
That's the difference between science and religion. Religion sticks with the original theory regardless of evidence, till the end of time.
2. We're not saying people are dumb if they're religious. We're saying being religious is dumb. I have a very high IQ, but if I stuck a fork into a light socket, that would be dumb. I work directly in the science field, and you're right: There are theists here. However, and this is very important: There are a *** TON less than there are at lower levels of education.
Theism decreases exponentially as education increases.
3. Atheism doesn't "Consume our lives". The people here do however value standards on facts enough to enlighten people like you via discussion and dialogue. Dialogue that is most likely above your head.
4. Those "crazy theories" we have for evolution, cosmology, etc, have a MASSIVE amount of evidence, that if you took the time to learn, would demonstrate just how obtuse you're being in this argument.
Google the argument from ignorance, it's a standard logical fallacy that a person uses when they're attempting to say that a fact is impossible because "they cannot understand it". That's your entire argument in a nutshell.
Put down the keyboard, grab a book, and join us again in 3-4 years.
how come you get pissed off about me asking questions? i'm not saying it's not a fact, i'm asking why it IS a fact. for a person with a high IQ that ***sure WOOSHED right over your scientific head there buddy.
i think you need to get off your high horse. like i said, you seem to know a lot about this ***because you have dedicated a lot of time to it, i have told you i did the exact opposite.
and this is why, because *** like you come on here with this "omg your a dumb *** bla bla bla" it kind of turns people off when you start calling them the most dumbest person or whatever.
all i want is answers, broken down for me real quick, you know, like the jist of the *** idea. i don't wanna read a *** book, i already admitted to not being the most educated person in the world.
you just called people who have faith in something unintelligent, you being the collective brain trust you *** are supposed to be, the guys with all the answers bla bla bla.
it's the *** internet dude, this isn't Harvard, if you can't explain to a regular guy like me how this *** works the what the *** do you have a high IQ for?
The fact you can't use any other word besides "***" shows your intelligence. You already lost this battle Beef.
First of all, nothing he said was hard to understand, so how is he not explaining it to a "regular guy"? I think your just either totally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, or playing the troll retard position on purpose. I hope its the ladder to be honest.
i'm talking about him getting pissed off because i'm asking QUESTIONS, i'm not saying evolution is not a fact, i'm asking why is it fact and not the bible? they're both made up by men, evolution is just a word.
there's not battle, you guys keep acting like i'm trying to fight with you, i'm just asking why you think this.
or did you start this thread for all the smart people to pat themselves on the back?
because i say *** i'm not intelligent? when did i ever say i was? you guys need some reading comprehension for reals g
hey guys i know a good idea! lets start talking about A SERIOUS TOPIC on an internet forum for a VIDEO GAME!!
I sense sarcasism and if so, you lost the thread discussion because when you clicked the link to the thread and began posting this is exactly what you have done.
FFXIAH.com forums are like the number one forums in my opinion. Our fellow adventurer's have covered almost every topic I can think of and while sometimes is gets out of control, sometimes it's very educational. Shame on you for belittling this site.
Yes an according to the bible, Noah was also 600 years old at the time he was commissioned to build the ark by god.
As for you Beef, i don't see you posting in every serious thread that it's too serious for a video game forum. Also it's not just a word, it's a word we assign to a truth. The word isn't what makes the word, it's the meaning behind it. It's sad that i have to point such things out to you.
Yes an according to the bible, Noah was also 600 years old at the time he was commissioned to build the ark by god.
As for you Beef, i don't see you posting in every serious thread that it's too serious for a video game forum. Also it's not just a word, it's a word we assign to a truth. The word isn't what makes the word, it's the meaning behind it. It's sad that i have to point such things out to you.
The hell you say 600 years old! I'm assuming when god spoke to him he said "Dude, ain't you dead yet? Build this monstorous boat! That'll kill your *** you long living son of a....."
you don't think 2000 yrs from now people are going to be LOLing at you guys believing in evolution when a new scientist comes out with a new theory?
i don't think religion is right either, i'm just saying people can be wrong but still be smart. you can't be right about everything, and that's their mulligan.
but it really seems atheism consumes your life about as much as religion does for theists. which, to me, is interesting because i would think you'd be much more free to live your life rather than prove others to be idiots etc.,
it seems to be a waste of time to me, but i don't know cuz i really don't dwell on things of that nature and ***.
but at least you explained it to me pretty clearly for someone like me to understand.
You may be the dumbest person I've ever taken the time to actually address, or one of the best trolls. I mean that as more a retrospect, than an insult.
1. Science is adaptable. Meaning: If a new theory comes about and shows a current theory to be wrong we (pause for effect) accept the new theory and stop believing the old theory. If evolution was proven wrong (it won't be, as said before: there is more evidence for evolution than almost every other theory -ever- made, including gravity, the earth being round, and the atomic theory), we would still gladly move to a new theory IF that theory provided evidence.
That's the difference between science and religion. Religion sticks with the original theory regardless of evidence, till the end of time.
2. We're not saying people are dumb if they're religious. We're saying being religious is dumb. I have a very high IQ, but if I stuck a fork into a light socket, that would be dumb. I work directly in the science field, and you're right: There are theists here. However, and this is very important: There are a *** TON less than there are at lower levels of education.
Theism decreases exponentially as education increases.
3. Atheism doesn't "Consume our lives". The people here do however value standards on facts enough to enlighten people like you via discussion and dialogue. Dialogue that is most likely above your head.
4. Those "crazy theories" we have for evolution, cosmology, etc, have a MASSIVE amount of evidence, that if you took the time to learn, would demonstrate just how obtuse you're being in this argument.
Google the argument from ignorance, it's a standard logical fallacy that a person uses when they're attempting to say that a fact is impossible because "they cannot understand it". That's your entire argument in a nutshell.
Put down the keyboard, grab a book, and join us again in 3-4 years.
how come you get pissed off about me asking questions? i'm not saying it's not a fact, i'm asking why it IS a fact. for a person with a high IQ that ***sure WOOSHED right over your scientific head there buddy.
i think you need to get off your high horse. like i said, you seem to know a lot about this ***because you have dedicated a lot of time to it, i have told you i did the exact opposite.
and this is why, because *** like you come on here with this "omg your a dumb *** bla bla bla" it kind of turns people off when you start calling them the most dumbest person or whatever.
all i want is answers, broken down for me real quick, you know, like the jist of the *** idea. i don't wanna read a *** book, i already admitted to not being the most educated person in the world.
you just called people who have faith in something unintelligent, you being the collective brain trust you *** are supposed to be, the guys with all the answers bla bla bla.
it's the *** internet dude, this isn't Harvard, if you can't explain to a regular guy like me how this *** works the what the *** do you have a high IQ for?
The fact you can't use any other word besides "***" shows your intelligence. You already lost this battle Beef.
First of all, nothing he said was hard to understand, so how is he not explaining it to a "regular guy"? I think your just either totally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, or playing the troll retard position on purpose. I hope its the ladder to be honest.
i'm talking about him getting pissed off because i'm asking QUESTIONS, i'm not saying evolution is not a fact, i'm asking why is it fact and not the bible? they're both made up by men, evolution is just a word.
there's not battle, you guys keep acting like i'm trying to fight with you, i'm just asking why you think this.
or did you start this thread for all the smart people to pat themselves on the back?
because i say *** i'm not intelligent? when did i ever say i was? you guys need some reading comprehension for reals g
Yes an according to the bible, Noah was also 600 years old at the time he was commissioned to build the ark by god.
As for you Beef, i don't see you posting in every serious thread that it's too serious for a video game forum. Also it's not just a word, it's a word we assign to a truth. The word isn't what makes the word, it's the meaning behind it. It's sad that i have to point such things out to you.
The hell you say 600 years old! I'm assuming when god spoke to him he said "Dude, ain't you dead yet? Build this monstorous boat! That'll kill your *** you long living son of a....."
Noah also died 350 years after the flood. At a ripe old age of 950 lol
hey guys i know a good idea! lets start talking about A SERIOUS TOPIC on an internet forum for a VIDEO GAME!!
I sense sarcasism and if so, you lost the thread discussion because when you clicked the link to the thread and began posting this is exactly what you have done.
FFXIAH.com forums are like the number one forums in my opinion. Our fellow adventurer's have covered almost every topic I can think of and while sometimes is gets out of control, sometimes it's very educational. Shame on you for belittling this site.
i don't see any *** atheists threads?
it's like these guys enjoy this ***or something, talking about the same old *** over and over and over again? if they don't like my questions then maybe they shouldn't talk about it?
if it's supposed to be so educational why are the "educated" people here acting like ***? i just wanted to know what's so interesting about this that they talk about this *** every other day i look on this site.
it's not my fault these geniuses can't tell the difference between a question and a statement, and then instead of talking about it in normal manner, they get all hostile and ***with "you're too dumb to understand" ***.
i ask pewpew why do you think religious people are unintelligent, do you think all religious people have a lower IQ than you? and his butt buddy jumps in and answers for him. is it because you weren't able to come up with an answer in that all mighty brain of yours the one that's smarter than like half the population of the damn world?
the ***he was saying was dumb as hell, and even i could see that. but because his buddies views are the same as religious fanatics "you're a *** idiot because you're questioning science bla bla bla, you need to read up on this and that" dude, that's what you're here for, to tell me about it. u know, just like the mormons when they come to your door, except they don't call you an idiot and a dumb *** when you ask them questions.
Vinvv, you trying to say you are almost a Christian?
No.
Are you?
Ya, just joking with you. However, I don't really think that is a very valid point to try and make. It seems what Athiests have a problem with isn't the number of gods one does/doesn't believe in, but the idea of believing in a God.
