RDM Tier 2 En-Spells Confirmed (At Last!), SMN Tweaks Too!
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RDM Tier 2 En-Spells Confirmed (At last!), SMN Tweaks Too!
Korpg, I'm gonna guess nothing because SE's release of this information says it's the "second half" of the job adjustments and additions.
Ataxia said: Korpg, I'm gonna guess nothing because SE's release of this information says it's the "second half" of the job adjustments and additions. First half was about WHM, so I guess this is it. So, there goes my theory about BLM getting an update, I was really hoping for Aspir II.... well.. for me the question is, what else does RDM get? WHM got the campaign teleports & soon new abilitys and BLM retrace... but nothing for RDM ;; an own tele for RDM would be nice...and refresh with 5 mins means just not a total of 150 MP it means 300 MP and thats it...lol.. so every 2 min 30 sec casting or every 5 min...
(Lv.50 Ability Delay: 5 min. Duration: 5 min.)
Increases accuracy and lengthens recast time. Enhancement effects gained through white and black magic you cast on yourself last longer. Looks to me like a attempt to make RDM more melee friendly~ Why does Red Mage need something? It's still the best soloing job in the game, by a long shot, and still one of the most highly sought jobs in experience parties / merit parties.
Wooooodum said: Why does Red Mage need something? It's still the best soloing job in the game, by a long shot, and still one of the most highly sought jobs in experience parties / merit parties. - Amen could be a typo, could mean magic accuracy
Or its just what it looks like. Gives you more time to melee instead of the constant recasting of haste/refesh.
This with addition of new enspells. Looks logic to me but I can be wrong. Miemo said: Looks logic to me but I can be wrong. With an avatar like that, how could you be? lolSquare-Enix said: PlayOnline Official Announcement In this second half of the announcement on job adjustments and additions planned for the April version update, Miemo said: Or its just what it looks like. Gives you more time to melee instead of the constant recasting of haste/refesh. This with addition of new enspells. Looks logic to me but I can be wrong. So, Melee RDM ftw now? Instead of buffing everyone, you get to whack monsters too? Korpg said: Miemo said: Or its just what it looks like. Gives you more time to melee instead of the constant recasting of haste/refesh. This with addition of new enspells. Looks logic to me but I can be wrong. So, Melee RDM ftw now? Instead of buffing everyone, you get to whack monsters too? Instead of casting all the time you get time to melee between casts!:D How is that going to work though?
Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... You would be spending a lot of MP buffing everyone, and curing, and you would need to heal alot You would also be giving a lot of TP to the mobs if you are meleeing at the same time The gears just doesn't make sense, this is basically a solo or mage only JA, not both at the same time... Korpg said: Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... I heard a rumour about this thing called a macro once... Can't remember the details though. Korpg said: How is that going to work though? Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... You would be spending a lot of MP buffing everyone, and curing, and you would need to heal alot You would also be giving a lot of TP to the mobs if you are meleeing at the same time The gears just doesn't make sense, this is basically a solo or mage only JA, not both at the same time... Ever solo'd avatars Melee style? Korpg said: How is that going to work though? Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... You would be spending a lot of MP buffing everyone, and curing, and you would need to heal alot You would also be giving a lot of TP to the mobs if you are meleeing at the same time The gears just doesn't make sense, this is basically a solo or mage only JA, not both at the same time... Yeah... ofcourse we would be meleeing in our enfeebling-gear >_> gearswap macro ftw? Edit: loltypo Wooooodum said: Korpg said: Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... I heard a rumour about this thing called a macro once... Can't remember the details though. Miemo said: Korpg said: How is that going to work though? Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... You would be spending a lot of MP buffing everyone, and curing, and you would need to heal alot You would also be giving a lot of TP to the mobs if you are meleeing at the same time The gears just doesn't make sense, this is basically a solo or mage only JA, not both at the same time... Ever solo'd avatars Melee style? Kvazz said: Korpg said: How is that going to work though? Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... You would be spending a lot of MP buffing everyone, and curing, and you would need to heal alot You would also be giving a lot of TP to the mobs if you are meleeing at the same time The gears just doesn't make sense, this is basically a solo or mage only JA, not both at the same time... Yeah... ofcourse we would be soloing in our enfeebling-gear >_> gearswap macro ftw? k, I know this RDM, he has the best types of gear possible. He has tanking gear, enfeebling gear, hMP gear, kiting gear... He is riding on 69/70 inventory spaces already, even with this new update (which could bring it to 80 spaces) he would not have enough spaces for melee gear. He is one of the best RDMs in the server, so I doubt he would get on melee and start whacking mobs for a chance to enfeeble better... Some people are already maxed out on spaces, and even so, RDMs get ***for melee gear anyway, we have worse accuracy than a DRK sometimes, even with great gears on.... Oh, and yes, I do melee Avatars, and I don't have to swap gears to do so. I'm just saying, why put more pressure on RDMs than they already have? Korpg said: Oh, and yes, I do melee Avatars, and I don't have to swap gears to do so. That was the point, lol. Wooooodum said: Korpg said: Oh, and yes, I do melee Avatars, and I don't have to swap gears to do so. That was the point, lol. My point is, you need accuracy to hit mobs. Thats an entire new setup there. I'm a BLM/SMN/WAR/RDM, I already had to semi-retire RDM because of lack of space left. I'm going to level SAM soon, so I will have to full retire RDM when I finish with subjob leveling. I just don't have the space to be all my jobs and still be good at all of them. Sometimes, you have to let things go... Korpg said: Wooooodum said: Korpg said: Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... I heard a rumour about this thing called a macro once... Can't remember the details though. Miemo said: Korpg said: How is that going to work though? Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... You would be spending a lot of MP buffing everyone, and curing, and you would need to heal alot You would also be giving a lot of TP to the mobs if you are meleeing at the same time The gears just doesn't make sense, this is basically a solo or mage only JA, not both at the same time... Ever solo'd avatars Melee style? Kvazz said: Korpg said: How is that going to work though? Your gear made for enfeebling sucks to melee in.... You would be spending a lot of MP buffing everyone, and curing, and you would need to heal alot You would also be giving a lot of TP to the mobs if you are meleeing at the same time The gears just doesn't make sense, this is basically a solo or mage only JA, not both at the same time... Yeah... ofcourse we would be soloing in our enfeebling-gear >_> gearswap macro ftw? k, I know this RDM, he has the best types of gear possible. He has tanking gear, enfeebling gear, hMP gear, kiting gear... He is riding on 69/70 inventory spaces already, even with this new update (which could bring it to 80 spaces) he would not have enough spaces for melee gear. He is one of the best RDMs in the server, so I doubt he would get on melee and start whacking mobs for a chance to enfeeble better... Some people are already maxed out on spaces, and even so, RDMs get ***for melee gear anyway, we have worse accuracy than a DRK sometimes, even with great gears on.... Oh, and yes, I do melee Avatars, and I don't have to swap gears to do so. I'm just saying, why put more pressure on RDMs than they already have? If i knew i were meleeing i would put away my dark magic gear and stuff like that, so i would get alot more space available. If you'r gonna melee, you would probably play as a buffer\enfeebling mage only, and a "dd". Therefor, not the same need for nuke-gear, or dark magic gear.. On the subject of space, what I really want is gear groupings. When I change jobs I need to manually switch over all the items and it's annoying. Some sort of grouping, whereby moving / swapping the groups moves all that job's items over would be an absolute god send.
Korpg said: Wooooodum said: Korpg said: Oh, and yes, I do melee Avatars, and I don't have to swap gears to do so. That was the point, lol. My point is, you need accuracy to hit mobs. Thats an entire new setup there. I'm a BLM/SMN/WAR/RDM, I already had to semi-retire RDM because of lack of space left. I'm going to level SAM soon, so I will have to full retire RDM when I finish with subjob leveling. I just don't have the space to be all my jobs and still be good at all of them. Sometimes, you have to let things go... Maybe im HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but I thought this is what we discussed this: (Lv.50 Ability Delay: 5 min. Duration: 5 min.) Increases accuracy and lengthens recast time. Enhancement effects gained through white and black magic you cast on yourself last longer. Kvazz said: If i knew i were meleeing i would put away my dark magic gear and stuff like that, so i would get alot more space available. If you'r gonna melee, you would probably play as a buffer\enfeebling mage only, and a "dd". Therefor, not the same need for nuke-gear, or dark magic gear.. Having all that gear still takes up inventory spaces. If you play as an endgame RDM, you will forever be stuck as an endgame RDM. You won't be able to play other jobs for fun, you would be stuck as RDM for the rest of your endgame career.... Miemo said: Maybe im HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE With an avatar like that, how could you be? etc Korpg said: Kvazz said: If i knew i were meleeing i would put away my dark magic gear and stuff like that, so i would get alot more space available. If you'r gonna melee, you would probably play as a buffer\enfeebling mage only, and a "dd". Therefor, not the same need for nuke-gear, or dark magic gear.. Having all that gear still takes up inventory spaces. If you play as an endgame RDM, you will forever be stuck as an endgame RDM. You won't be able to play other jobs for fun, you would be stuck as RDM for the rest of your endgame career.... I have enough space for my 3 jobs, and i'll probably stick with those 3, so space isnt a problem for everybody x) And that does include a lolmeleeset for RDM, and its all in my item sets list if you wanna check it out >_> WIth 80 inventory spots I would fit some melee gear alongside all the other gear I usually carry for RDM, so that's fine:) With enf/haste/dst+1 set/hmp/convert/mnd setup on me im at 68/70-ish, 10 more inventory could optimize my other setups a tiny bit, and I would still have room for a SH+1, a Joyeuse, a cpl Toreador's rings and a pcc/fort torque.
Miemo said: Maybe im HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but I thought this is what we discussed this: (Lv.50 Ability Delay: 5 min. Duration: 5 min.) Increases accuracy and lengthens recast time. Enhancement effects gained through white and black magic you cast on yourself last longer. Would the increase in accuracy be to 95% cap? If it is physical accuracy too, it could be magical accuracy. It was kindof implied, but you can never be too sure. Either way, accuracy or not, that still requires a whole new gearset. Korpg said: Either way, accuracy or not, that still requires a whole new gearset. I usually carry full haste set on RDM, why would you need a whole new gearset when all I(atleast) would only need 4-5 acc pieces:) To be good at enfeebling (this is just enfeebling btw) you would need the following:
4 HQ Staffs 4 Grips Magic Accuracy gear Enfeebling gear if no Magic Accuracy in slots MND gear for MND enfeebles INT gear for INT enfeebles That alone would rank you up 30 slots... Then you have your Curing gear HQ light (or regular light, doesn't matter tbh) MND+ gear (more the better) MP+ gear (more the better) Then you have your /heal gear HQ Dark (or regular dark, doesn't matter tbh) all the hMP gear you can have MP+ gear (whatever you don't fill up in hMP slots) Tanking gear HQ Earth (its ok from Enfeebling gear, so don't worry about it) -Physical Damage taken gear -Magical Damage taken gear HP+ gear Enmity+ gear Kiting gear is the same as Tanking, except for Blood panties Ok, now look at how many slots you have left.....yup, you have none Now, add melee gear to the list, which includes Joytoy (or Justice, but then again, you would need stones + pouches) Accuracy+ gear Sword+ gear Attack+ gear Whoops, you are already out of spaces.....and you haven't even gotten to the Sword+ gear at all.... |
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