Fortitude Axe Vs Byakko's Axe....
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Fortitude Axe vs Byakko's Axe....
fort axe with haste and double march with correct gear is amazing, but eats stones like crazy. good if you can keep stones up lol and i use over perdu in some cases
Pandum said: fort axe with haste and double march with correct gear is amazing, but eats stones like crazy. good if you can keep stones up lol and i use over perdu in some cases Good thing I have like 5 more stacks of Virtue Stone Pouches from farming my 2 sea obis for BLM lol Korpg said: Makes me look gay....
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Deemos said: Makes me look gay.... You said it, not me Reznap said: Use Rune Chopper. Tried that, besides the fact that nobody would refresh a WAR, it still wouldn't take into effect half the time with Auto Refresh Sanction. At least with this, I get to TP a lot faster because of more hits. and then you get to WS with a 64dmg weapon! the 7 vit totally makes up for it though right
Kelia said: and then you get to WS with a 64dmg weapon! the 7 vit totally makes up for it though right For Steel Cyclone, at 300% TP, there is no difference at all imo. I still stick 1800 damage on mobs with either Byakko's Axe or Fort Axe. Raging Rush, on the other hand, has seen a drastic decrease on damage. From 800~1200 damage with Byakko's Axe, to 400-700 with Fort Axe, people seem to automatically discount Fort Axe right off the bat. But, if you do 2x Raging Rushes with Fort Axe compared to 1x Raging Rush with Byakko's Axe, you will see that Fort Axe = Byakko's Axe, could even be better, if I constantly hit 700+ each time. Unfortunally, like all WSs, there is that randomness if the hit is going to hit or not. Or if Double Attack is going to proc on the WS. Its almost impossible to keep it steady anyway. base dmg of ws = d+fstr+WSC
WSC is modifiers so they are same with both fstr difference s only 3 from perdu damage rating on weapon is 27 less than perdu = 30 less base dmg before applying pdif thats the same as loosing 103 str on raging rush. in other words most dmg you could possibly lose is 270 per raging rush,(if all 3 crit and gave 3.0 pdif) which is very rare but then if its occasionally attacks twice is 55% same as justice sword that means u could get tp for WS on average of every 3-4 hits instead of 5 so you can ws more often, fort axe would do more dmg. when mobs defense gets high is when u should switch to perdu or in your case byakko's axe, in merit fort axe will do more if you have the virtue stones. Slamm said: base dmg of ws = d+fstr+WSC WSC is modifiers so they are same with both fstr difference s only 3 from perdu damage rating on weapon is 27 less than perdu = 30 less base dmg before applying pdif thats the same as loosing 103 str on raging rush. in other words most dmg you could possibly lose is 270 per raging rush,(if all 3 crit and gave 3.0 pdif) which is very rare but then if its occasionally attacks twice is 55% same as justice sword that means u could get tp for WS on average of every 3-4 hits instead of 5 so you can ws more often, fort axe would do more dmg. when mobs defense gets high is when u should switch to perdu or in your case byakko's axe, in merit fort axe will do more if you have the virtue stones. Which I haven't tossed yet, I'll probably still get Perdu eventually, but yeah, Fort > Byakko so far.... Good to see some sophisticated looking mathy stuff to back it up eh :p
So basically looks like Fort is the winner for meripo/dynamis/nyzul/limbus/etc, and switch to byakko's for gods/bosses of any sort where you'll want the higher base DMG and you'll also want to feed less tp. 
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[43 days between previous and next post]Bringing this up from the dead to reshow the point of Fort Axe > Byakko's Axe in case you miss it.
 That is all. Korpg said: Bringing this up from the dead to reshow the point of Fort Axe > Byakko's Axe in case you miss it. That is all. What amermat+1 you gimp I'm surprised that you didn't say anything about my Chiv Chain, or Swift Belt.
Or Walmart Turban Or Dusk gear Or Sniper's Ring Or Ethreal Earring (or however you spell it). yeah, god damn it.
I mean, I didn't have to buy those two dusk ***for WAR, I could have saved for that Sorc Ring.... ..or Witch's Sash.... ...or Ixion Cloak.... ....but instead, I desided to go ahead and improve WAR just a little bit. Korpg said: I'm surprised that you didn't say anything about my Chiv Chain, or Swift Belt. Or Walmart Turban Or Dusk gear Or Sniper's Ring Or Ethreal Earring (or however you spell it). naw most those are acceptable though really the dusk and ring should be HQ plus i gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed sonic belt. Do Ｉ look like a freaken millionare? My BLM is my pimp geared job and its not even worth that much....
The fact that my WAR is geared like that even though its not my main should be an accomplishment on itself. You should be.
I am. I'm not even level 51 o.o Korpg said: Do Ｉ look like a freaken millionare? My BLM is my pimp geared job and its not even worth that much.... The fact that my WAR is geared like that even though its not my main should be an accomplishment on itself. sorry sorry velocious belt Dasva said: Korpg said: Do Ｉ look like a freaken millionare? My BLM is my pimp geared job and its not even worth that much.... The fact that my WAR is geared like that even though its not my main should be an accomplishment on itself. sorry sorry velocious belt Psh, who needs velocious belt when swift belt does the job for you? 19% haste WAR ftw Fortitude Axe will feed more TP to mob, so i'll vote Byakko's Axe even F.Axe have better slight damage. i dont like mob using Skill often :p
Rikhu said: Fortitude Axe will feed more TP to mob, so i'll vote Byakko's Axe even F.Axe have better slight damage. i dont like mob using Skill often :p Its more then slightly more dmg... alot more and its not like swinging a kclub its a gaxe you aint feeding tons of tp to mob Dasva said: Rikhu said: Fortitude Axe will feed more TP to mob, so i'll vote Byakko's Axe even F.Axe have better slight damage. i dont like mob using Skill often :p Its more then slightly more dmg... alot more and its not like swinging a kclub its a gaxe you aint feeding tons of tp to mob In a sense, you are both correct. Its not like a KClub. I won't give 100% TP to the mob each round. But it will feed more TP to a mob than Byakko's Axe. You are both correct, its like having the damage of a GA with the multitude of hits as a Ridill.
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[126 days between previous and next post]I use Fortitude Axe many in Einherjar (T1) as /sam (max GA merits)
My TP Gain + Attack Speed was insane due the often Double Attack Rate and Triple/QuadAttack. My Raging Rushs had an average between 600-1200, sometimes its higher due the multihits. The dot is awesome =) fort axe is really good for the moogle final fight war/sam or war nin
i keep fort axe around for zerg fights
kirin/bv1 etc~ otherwise i trashed my Byakko's Axe when i got Perdu Voulge now i hardly do that, 3rd gaxe in Augmented Fight i got what i wanted Erlking's with DMG97/Att+6/DA+2 so i just use all 3 atm, depending on situation Hi, I'm pretty sure double attack check for a sea weapons will allow a maximum of three hits per attack round. A maximum of 1 stone expended each time. At least that's what I remember reading back in the day.
In any case for a War looking to spam some Raging Rush and swap between hasso and seigan constantly it's a very fun weapon to have. It is my favorite GA for anything I can IT or lower. In the case of HNM I will often rely on martial. Question that extends the OP in the case of the Fort Axe. 1.5%DA or 2%haste, given that I will have Passive trait, merit, grip, brutal. Sassi said: Hi, I'm pretty sure double attack check for a sea weapons will allow a maximum of three hits per attack round. A maximum of 1 stone expended each time. At least that's what I remember reading back in the day. I can attest to the opposite of this, as I know for a fact you can get 7-hit attack rounds with Faith Baghnakhs, as I've done it myself on more than a couple occasions. I also know you can not get a Virtue Stone proc on WSs, because, again, I have Faith Baghnakhs and can do the testing. I'm quite confident that I have never witnessed a 4 hit on the fortitude axe. Although with haste in a merit party the attack speed may be very high.
With Faith do you often overlap into the next attack round? Given the weapon delay along with traits and such? |
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