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By 2011-04-20 14:59:36
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By Cerberus.Wojo 2011-04-20 15:11:36
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I may not understand what I'm about to say, but I think we should also click on the ads that are presented to show our support.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-04-20 15:13:05
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Cerberus.Wojo said:
I may not understand what I'm about to say, but I think we should also click on the ads that are presented to show our support.
This is typically our answer to those that cannot donate, but want to assist.
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By Asura.Hit 2011-04-20 15:15:56
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* Bump for OP *


6 pages TL;DR: Google sucks, There's a donation icon on the menu to your left, Help out, minimum donation is 4$.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-04-20 15:16:51
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
My question is, what has to happen for Google to give their advertising privileges back? Is this going to be a slap on the wrist saying "don't do it again"? Are we going to say "ok we're good now, review us again?"
We don't know yet. Still having that dialogue. I doubt the decision is permanent.

Having a conversation with Google can be pretty one-sided just due to the logistics involved, but we're working on it.

Let's not hate on them. They're just one of our ad networks, and are acting according to their own official policies. This problem affects all of our business, not just Google.
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By Diabolos.Sovereign 2011-04-20 15:19:09
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Artemicion said:
Diabolos.Sovereign said:

Absolutely. There are a million other places on the internet to voice opinions on those matters or discuss other subjects where the matter at hand is more relevant. I do not feel FFXIAH should be one of them.

You seem to forget that the forum in of itself is a community brought together by a common interest: FFXI.
Why must we be bound to a singular subject and not expand our thoughts and views on things other than a video game? There's more to people that play FFXI than just FFXI.

I'm fully aware that there is more to people that play FFXI.

What I am saying is that on this website, you simply should be bound to a singular subject (or a small variety of related subjects), because obviously the presence of no boundaries has caused more harm than good, or we wouldnt be having this discussion at all.

I remember FFXIAH.com before it had a forum. When it was just a research tool for FFXI players. It probably should have stayed that way. The forums were a great addition when the discussions were limited to certain topics, allowing the users to research and discuss things related to gameplay. What the users have turned it into is an absolute mess.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-04-20 15:21:08
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In a nutshell: we need off-topic (i.e. not just FFXI/XIV) forum participation in order to drive enough impression traffic to support the rest of the site.

The question we're wrestling with is how much.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-04-20 15:23:05
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I do hope you can figure it out, as I, along with many others, enjoy this site :)
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-04-20 15:42:31
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brb clicking every ad i see.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-04-20 15:44:24
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Fairy.Ghaleon said:
brb clicking every ad i see.

My friend did that and now I'm banned from Google Ads :| She wanted me to buy her a nook >_>
 
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-04-20 15:45:59
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
brb clicking every ad i see.

My friend did that and now I'm banned from Google Ads :| She wanted me to buy her a nook >_>

yea my friend finally got accepted to google ads through his youtube account. but all his friends kept spamming ad links so he would get money and he got banned within ~2days lmao.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-04-20 15:47:17
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Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
brb clicking every ad i see.

My friend did that and now I'm banned from Google Ads :| She wanted me to buy her a nook >_>

yea my friend finally got accepted to google ads through his youtube account. but all his friends kept spamming ad links so he would get money and he got banned within ~2days lmao.

Six months of work ruined in one week. MEH!

Life goes on.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-04-20 15:50:07
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what if people who can't donate instead pledge to turn off adblock for ffxiah.com? i think this could be a viable option and it would help in the long run even if you do not click on any ads, as im certain quite a bit of this forums userbase uses/has access to a type of adblock.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-20 16:21:56
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
In a nutshell: we need off-topic (i.e. not just FFXI/XIV) forum participation in order to drive enough impression traffic to support the rest of the site.

The question we're wrestling with is how much.

Don't take the Arcade section away please >.>
 
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-20 16:24:50
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
In a nutshell: we need off-topic (i.e. not just FFXI/XIV) forum participation in order to drive enough impression traffic to support the rest of the site.

The question we're wrestling with is how much.

Don't take the Arcade section away please >.>
Definitely don't take away the religion/politics section either. I'm sure that generates loads of traffic as it is.
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2011-04-20 16:39:10
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Thank you guys for the very generous donations that have resulted from this thread. I will process them and send individual thanks when I get a minute.

I am confident that Google will reactivate our account, we had a relationship for over 5 years and were responsible for approximately 80% of ffxiah.com ad revenue. I'm in the process of shifting impressions to our other partners in the meantime.

Thanks for the support. :)
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-04-20 16:42:46
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:


I don't care, I do not like Google anyway. It is not just because of this. When something is clearly getting too big it falls out of favor with me. Google is trying to stick its tentacles in everywhere and it gets to a point where you just don't want them to.

my favor with them started to decline when they took over youtube
 
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2011-04-20 16:46:34
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Maybe I am alone here, but I think that if Google thinks ffxiah is too harsh and decides to stay away, that's really the best thing that could happen. What I mean is, Google is already (as we are all aware) the internet powerhouse. Imagine what would happen if the DID associate with sites like this?

Basically, I am saying if we're too bad for them, then so are a whole lot of other sites. But that is all good, because they would be too powerful otherwise.

I don't know. Just pushing buttons on my keyboard.
 
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-20 16:55:42
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
While we have all the mods here. Might I suggest making Bloodbathboy one to help out with the load? That is if he wants to. I mean he is probably the best choice out of any of us.
I would have to agree. He seems like a good choice.
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