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Sub job for blm?
 Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-13 22:49:57
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Obviously your insight has saved the day
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-04-13 22:56:37
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Cerberus.Eugene said:
Obviously your insight has saved the day
I can see that you are bored, welcome to the club.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-13 22:59:49
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I only get cures on blm when we aren't even fighting because of my sorc ring proc. Not sure what it is that makes people think that when no fight is going on I need back to back cures cause apparently I'm losing 200hp/tic and constantly yellow but not need cures when we are fighting and an nm is beating the ***out of me and I'm deep in the red but it's dumb
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-13 23:05:45
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well in downtime if you have extra mp why not burn it?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-13 23:06:54
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Why keep curing someone to full that keeps dropping there hp?
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-13 23:08:21
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i don't have an answer to that.
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By Bismarck.Franzrobot 2011-04-13 23:10:47
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Why keep curing someone to full that keeps dropping there hp?

Skillups
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By Bismarck.Franzrobot 2011-04-13 23:14:16
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Also, bringing the topic back on track.


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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-13 23:16:22
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The topic has run its course, let it evolve
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By Asura.Unicornessence 2011-04-13 23:19:38
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I use blm/sch alot, decreases casting time and recasting time for black magic, while in Dark Arts. Alacrity is fantastic for attemting to stagger mobs with AM since it cuts casting and recast timers in half for your next spell. Also gives you access to both Reraise and Dispel, without loosing stoneskin. Sublimation is helpful with keeping you from being slept. The only drawback I have found is that I miss Gravity with this combo.

In the end, your subjob choice will simply depend on what you are doing on blm. Once the mage box is opened.. you may as well just level them all, at least to sub job level, experiment, and just have fun with it.
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By DuzellLevi 2011-04-13 23:20:04
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BLM/SAM Scythe Melee build
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-13 23:20:44
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Asura.Unicornessence said:
I use blm/sch alot, decreases casting time and recasting time for black magic, while in Dark Arts. Alacrity is fantastic for attemting to stagger mobs with AM since it cuts casting and recast timers in half for your next spell. Also gives you access to both Reraise and Dispel, without loosing stoneskin. Sublimation is helpful with keeping you from being slept. The only drawback I have found is that I miss Gravity with this combo.

In the end, your subjob choice will simply depend on what you are doing on blm. Once the mage box is opened.. you may as well just level them all, at least to sub job level, experiment, and just have fun with it.

recast timers what?
 
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-13 23:24:23
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Ah, cuz I know more about blm after not playing for 2 years so i was mad confused.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2011-04-13 23:47:01
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Blm/brd for procs
Blm/sch for events alacrity AM/AGA3 is nice for those long spells and gay mobs e.g Sedna etc
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-13 23:53:14
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Bismarck.Franzrobot said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Why keep curing someone to full that keeps dropping there hp?
Skillups
Cure yourself
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By zahrah 2011-04-13 23:56:09
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Bismarck.Franzrobot said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Why keep curing someone to full that keeps dropping there hp?
Skillups
Cure yourself

That was going to be my suggestion!
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-14 00:04:14
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zahrah said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Bismarck.Franzrobot said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Why keep curing someone to full that keeps dropping there hp?
Skillups
Cure yourself
That was going to be my suggestion!
Specifically go to abyssea - empyreal paradox set some refresh atmas and just run a repeating spellcast or windower maccro program. It's funny coming back and seeing your status "wear off" several times.

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By Asura.Ziekwalt 2011-04-14 00:18:32
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Shiva.Ergiyios said:
I sub /DRK so I get 2 stuns...and those times when I really need to tank /war mana wall and defender ftw!
Wait 2 stuns?!
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-14 00:27:43
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Cerberus.Valmur said:
Blm/brd for procs
Blm/sch for events alacrity AM/AGA3 is nice for those long spells and gay mobs e.g Sedna etc

valmur doesnt even give me a shoutout </3
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-14 00:28:01
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Bismarck.Franzrobot said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Why keep curing someone to full that keeps dropping there hp?
Skillups
Cure yourself

dare i say scripting?
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-14 00:28:17
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Asura.Ziekwalt said:
Shiva.Ergiyios said:
I sub /DRK so I get 2 stuns...and those times when I really need to tank /war mana wall and defender ftw!
Wait 2 stuns?!

weapon bash and stun
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By Bismarck.Robbyodom 2011-04-14 02:24:34
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Thanks everyone for your opinions and all the advice.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-14 02:29:33
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Cerberus.Eugene said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Bismarck.Franzrobot said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Why keep curing someone to full that keeps dropping there hp?
Skillups
Cure yourself
dare i say scripting?
I use a spellcast xml. Works pretty good. Capped healing and enhancing on rdm yays. Abyssea is a godsend for that btw since you wont ever have to rest regardless of job
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-04-14 03:02:51
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Clearly, the best sub job for BLM is BST. You charm a mob and have it fight another, so that it tanks it while you nuke.
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By Bismarck.Cerelyn 2011-04-14 03:36:12
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Bahamut.Zoltar said:
Straight-up nukes: /rdm
Backup Heal/Processing !!: /whm
this
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-14 04:59:41
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too bad you can't sub blm... on blm
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By Bismarck.Rinkydink 2011-04-14 05:15:08
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Bismarck.Faelar said:
I wouldnt recommend /SCH for BLM. Doesnt really add anything BLM innately has or anything the other subs adds.

except /SCH gives you reraise, the ability to cure as well as /whm (excluding haste), and get "fast cast" by using dark arts..

not to mention if your on worms (which is good if your faming time) then you have AOE drain and AOE aspir..

not sure why you can tell me thats a bad combination. plus.. if you're in a REAL pickle you get a 3rd and 4th sleepga!

/SCH is more than viable. but like its been said on a similar question not so long back (search: black mage subjob!)

situational ***is situational
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-04-14 06:19:34
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Bismarck.Rinkydink said:
Bismarck.Faelar said:
I wouldnt recommend /SCH for BLM. Doesnt really add anything BLM innately has or anything the other subs adds.

except /SCH gives you reraise, the ability to cure as well as /whm (excluding haste), and get "fast cast" by using dark arts..

not to mention if your on worms (which is good if your faming time) then you have AOE drain and AOE aspir..

not sure why you can tell me thats a bad combination. plus.. if you're in a REAL pickle you get a 3rd and 4th sleepga!

/SCH is more than viable. but like its been said on a similar question not so long back (search: black mage subjob!)

situational ***is situational
reraise is nice, and the main reason i'd use it over /rdm, but i won't deny that it's just because i'm *** cheap. aoe aspir are nice too, if you're planning ahead of time on -gaing worms; if they're not worms, aspir is nice (on crabs and such) but you might want phalanx instead.

ability to cure as well as whm? /sch doesn't give you cure 4, and you already mentioned haste. you'll get -na spells and erase (in light arts and addendum white), but your biggest cure will be the same as /rdm.

fastcast from /rdm applies to everything, so /rdm will give you more fastcast than /sch assuming you don't cap out.

i've never really needed more than 2 sleepgas.

i wouldn't call /sch totally useless, but the times when you'd want it over /whm or /rdm are fairly limited. and for what blm does now i'd be more likely to sub brd over sch.
 
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