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Fitness and Nutrition general
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-03-18 18:45:39
Speaking of dropping on bench or looking like that. Knock-on-wood never dropped on bench. I was doing decline bench presses and my spotter decided to check facebook and kinda forgot about me.... >.>
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-18 18:53:05
I used to workout at home and never had a spotter there, but didn't want to be afraid to push myself.
Pretty much why I never use clamps for any exercise. except for upright rows and deadlifts, which are the two were the weights actually seem to slide enough for me to need them
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By Asura.Slugman 2013-03-18 19:12:46
Working in a weight room for 4 years and I've seen about everything. From someone going *** over tea kettle doing dumbell declines, to saving someones life on bench because he hadn't realized you cant lift as much weight after a long night of frat parties.
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By Asura.Slugman 2013-03-18 19:19:27
After watching those videos it seems that arm issue has really thrown you off than just one side of the bar going higher. I can't really tell from the angle but it looks like you may be fanning your right elbow out to a degree which could throw you off. Also throw in dumbell benches as your number 1 bench lift for awhile and get accustomed to it, it might help you have better control of the bar.
By Vegetto 2013-03-18 19:25:35
Dumbbells are my primary movement. Have been for about 2 years now. Barbell is my secondary movement.
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By Asura.Slugman 2013-03-18 19:32:51
It still looks like it's throwing your whole form off (weighted anyway). I'd stick with the dumbells, maybe add some isolated movements to strengthen that area?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-18 19:37:13
As I've said, that one is just to give visualization to the fact my arms are *** up. As far as the lift itself goes, I don't have any problems benching.
It's more of an issue with my upright rows than anything else, but the benching just better visualizes the problem.
That said, I'm coming to the point where dumbbells aren't going to be an option anymore soon. My gym only goes up to the 100s and I'm already doing 5x5 with those. When I get to the point where I can do 4x10, then I'm going to want to progress further, so flat bench is going to have to be the option there, since machines aren't going to hit my stabilizer muscles
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By Asura.Slugman 2013-03-18 19:45:35
Tell the gym owner to get 110-150lbs.
What about cleans? that would cover your rows.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-18 19:47:42
They won't, it's my school gym. You can't even get them to fix the hot water heater for the showers, yet alone get them to actually buy equipment.
As far as cleans go, I have to stick with slow/controlled movements, a faster movement like that is a no go. Bad lower back from being ran over 3 times on my bike
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By Asura.Slugman 2013-03-18 19:54:17
You're making this difficult. Arnold presses along with cubans and ditch the upright rows?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-18 19:58:00
lol, I can't help people running me over.
What are cubans?
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2013-03-18 20:29:40
As I've said, that one is just to give visualization to the fact my arms are *** up. As far as the lift itself goes, I don't have any problems benching.
It's more of an issue with my upright rows than anything else, but the benching just better visualizes the problem.
That said, I'm coming to the point where dumbbells aren't going to be an option anymore soon. My gym only goes up to the 100s and I'm already doing 5x5 with those. When I get to the point where I can do 4x10, then I'm going to want to progress further, so flat bench is going to have to be the option there, since machines aren't going to hit my stabilizer muscles
Might consider having a partner push down lightly on the dumbells for added resistance
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By Asura.Slugman 2013-03-19 01:00:30
lol, I can't help people running me over.
What are cubans?
Like a seated dumbell movement similar to a clean, but with more controlled/slower movement.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/cuban-press
By Quiznor 2013-03-19 01:09:30
The name I know that movement by is an overhead dumbbell press
Same thing though,is good to know what it is in case someone else says a cuban press though
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By Sylph.Rafaras 2013-03-20 02:57:58
You do eat like ***, you just have better genes than most people.
Don't try to make being an outlier an example of a better path. oh, I'm not trying to say that everyone should eat the way I do, or etc.
I just laugh when they're talking ***to me because of what I eat, which happens a lot.
Quote: but his activity probably has much more to do with the offset than genetics
This x1000
Have you seen what I looked like before I got back in the gym?
Why do you assume negativity from people? I'm sure if you stick to a clean diet your body will be better looking than as it is now, which you know is true.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-20 03:03:28
Never said it wasn't true, but that has nothing to do with my point really. Was talking about people who talk ***lol. Besides, eating clean isn't cheap
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-03-20 17:52:43
I know hydration was mentioned the other day. Was wondering what other people here use for keeping hydrated (containers)? and where to get them?
I'm using this atm but I don't like the material. I feel like if I drop it its going to shatter(thin plastic)
I think it's half a gallon? Thing doesn't say. Any ideas of where?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-20 18:00:27
Get a 32 oz gatorade/powerade. Each is 1/4th gallon. Fill it with water and transfer to your container. See how many times it takes.
As for me, I just use the 32 oz containers. It's easy for me to keep track of how much I've drank. I drink 4 of them a day minimum and more if I feel like it.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2013-03-20 18:04:41
6-8 nalgenes a day generally
192-256oz
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By Asura.Slugman 2013-03-21 14:46:19
6-8 nalgenes a day generally
192-256oz
How much is that in Fl pz.?
By daemun 2013-03-21 14:48:09
Besides, eating clean isn't cheap Truest statement in this thread.
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By Quiznor 2013-03-21 14:49:18
Besides, eating clean isn't cheap Truest statement in this thread.
I guess its a regional thing. Here it's cheaper to eat healthy than it is to not eat healthy. Of course our meats and natural foods are still expensive BUT our junk food and processed foods are even more expensive
By daemun 2013-03-21 15:12:59
Besides, eating clean isn't cheap Truest statement in this thread.
I guess its a regional thing. Here it's cheaper to eat healthy than it is to not eat healthy. Of course our meats and natural foods are still expensive BUT our junk food and processed foods are even more expensive Thanks to the Great Depression, fried fatty foods and preservative ridden artificial additives are much cheaper than natural foods here.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-03-21 15:35:00
I never really had much of an issue eating relatively healthy on a budget. Some food that I found that is decent and relatively cheap per how filling it is: Chicken, large ham (cheap but you'll be eating ham for like a week), potatos, rice, eggs, beans, wheat bread, oatmeal, pasta+sauce, peanut butter, milk, carrots, brocolli, peas. I actually started being able to eat more when I stopped eating fast food/prepared food.
Breakfast:
3 eggs(70cents) on 2 whole wheat English muffins(33cents), glass of milk(45cents), orange(30cents) total: $1.78
lunch: 3 Peanut-butter sandwiches ($1.3) some baby carrots and brocolli (40cents) total: $1.70
dinner: large 1/2lb boneless skinless chicken breast ($1) half a package of pasta(60cents) 1/3rd a can of marinara sauce (40cents) total: $2
Daily price: $5.48
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-21 15:38:30
Two problems with eating healthy on a budget for me.
A) I need a lot of calories for my activity level. A lot of healthy food is low in calories, so I'd need to eat a lot of it
B) With only a mini fridge, and only cooking for one person, it's hard to buy in bulk for things that need to be refrigerated or frozen, which is where all the savings come in.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-03-21 15:54:06
Could always switch to fattier meats like dark meat chicken or ground beef and up calorie intake. Also probably be able to get more food because fattier meats tend to be cheaper. It might not be as healthy as other options but it is still probably ahead of fast food.
But ya, w/ a small fridge and no freezer I can only think of a few meals that would work, and it would get really *** boring eating the same few meals day in and day out.
Edit: Also, I'm not trying to say you, or anyone, has to switch. Results are results however you get them; just saying that it may help other people. I know it personally helped me to improve my diet and body some.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2013-03-21 16:03:55
6-8 nalgenes a day generally
192-256oz
How much is that in Fl pz.? really
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-03-21 16:29:49
Two problems with eating healthy on a budget for me.
A) I need a lot of calories for my activity level. A lot of healthy food is low in calories, so I'd need to eat a lot of it ^^ this. You can actually kinda get away with eating trashy so long as the numbers add up at the end of the day.
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By Asura.Slugman 2013-03-21 16:38:58
6-8 nalgenes a day generally
192-256oz
How much is that in Fl pz.? really
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By daemun 2013-03-21 16:42:15
6-8 nalgenes a day generally
192-256oz
How much is that in Fl pz.? really
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This thread is basically for discussing workouts and dietary intake for people who are trying to or looking to getting into better shape or eating healthier in general.
Any and all questions regarding either of the two can be asked and hopefully answered here as well.
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