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 Quetzalcoatl.Setsuai
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By Quetzalcoatl.Setsuai 2011-03-29 05:41:33
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
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The spells I typically have set the most are as follows.

Head Butt
Goblin Rush
Whirl of Rage(Usually just for the stat bonus)
Quad. Continuum
Benthic Typhoon
Delta Thrust
Animating Wail
Occulation
Charged Whisker
Regurgitation
Actinic Burst
Plenilune Embrace
Battery Charge
Regeneration
Winds. of Promy
Dream Flower

And of course spells usually get swapped out as needed for grellow procs. You technically don't have to learn all of the spells, but if your OCD like I am, having a complete spell list isn't a bad thing. Just be prepared to spend lots of time learning certain spells. Make sure you do level Blue Magic skill first, as well as have the AF hands and body on you to boost chances for learning it.

Body doesnt help you learn it faster, just makes you able to learn them earlier due to the skill+

Wouldn't that technically help you learn it faster though? lol j/k

It was just something I wore if my skill was gimped, which was most of the time because at some point blue magic skill got harder for me to skill up.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-03-29 05:43:11
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Yeah I used mine alot too, but that was because I aby burned mine up >_>
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By Quetzalcoatl.Setsuai 2011-03-29 05:49:37
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lol I took mine up to 60+ before abyssea even hit. I did finish it in abyssea though. My af body became incredibly important learning spells after that lol
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By Cerberus.Deadplaything 2011-03-29 06:00:10
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
All of them.
Yeah Wtf man get them all why even ask that. The goal is to have all regardless of use. Example- Last year before abyssea "Meh I dont need that spell" few months blues are frowned upon for missing spells. If you are going to play the job build it the way it was meant to. If you want to melee with swords and half *** it be a ninja with swords... so fun.... sarcasm is in there somewhere do you see it. Just cut the BS and learn them all god knows we have plenty of time to do so.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Setsuai 2011-03-29 07:07:27
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Cerberus.Deadplaything said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
All of them.
Yeah Wtf man get them all why even ask that. The goal is to have all regardless of use. Example- Last year before abyssea "Meh I dont need that spell" few months blues are frowned upon for missing spells. If you are going to play the job build it the way it was meant to. If you want to melee with swords and half *** it be a ninja with swords... so fun.... sarcasm is in there somewhere do you see it. Just cut the BS and learn them all god knows we have plenty of time to do so.

You seem to be forgetting something.....

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I don't know much about blu, so please help me, I repeat, we want get all magics, but what are first and more important for solo/party/job trials, etc

^this
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-29 07:17:59
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I'd disgree on body helping. I haven't gone out testing body... but any blu can tell you how much easier it is to learn spells when you have more skill. Besides later on most my kill shots were spells so had it on anyways
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By Cerberus.Deadplaything 2011-03-29 07:26:39
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Quetzalcoatl.Setsuai said:
Cerberus.Deadplaything said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
All of them.
Yeah Wtf man get them all why even ask that. The goal is to have all regardless of use. Example- Last year before abyssea "Meh I dont need that spell" few months blues are frowned upon for missing spells. If you are going to play the job build it the way it was meant to. If you want to melee with swords and half *** it be a ninja with swords... so fun.... sarcasm is in there somewhere do you see it. Just cut the BS and learn them all god knows we have plenty of time to do so.

You seem to be forgetting something.....

Sylph.Darkei said:
I don't know much about blu, so please help me, I repeat, we want get all magics, but what are first and more important for solo/party/job trials, etc

^this

and the correct answer is still all of them. lol
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By Quetzalcoatl.Setsuai 2011-03-29 07:36:36
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I never said he shouldn't get all of them lol. I just said he technically doesn't have to.

And actually the body does help when your skill is gimped. At least it made a difference for me. Can't say for others though.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-29 07:37:02
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I wouldn't actually care about all of them. About a dozen or so serve no useful purpose ever. But the vast majority are good for casting, stat setting, and/or job trait setting. If only during certain lvls or specific not often used setups/fights. I still don't have queesy shroom :)
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-29 08:06:00
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Queasyshroom is actually a good spell for testing blue magic :). There a use for them all!
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-29 08:06:31
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
I'd disgree on body helping. I haven't gone out testing body... but any blu can tell you how much easier it is to learn spells when you have more skill. Besides later on most my kill shots were spells so had it on anyways

Do you mean on body *not* helping? Otherwise I agree.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-29 08:07:07
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Queasyshroom is actually a good spell for testing blue magic :). There a use for them all!
Testing what?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-29 08:07:49
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
I'd disgree on body helping. I haven't gone out testing body... but any blu can tell you how much easier it is to learn spells when you have more skill. Besides later on most my kill shots were spells so had it on anyways
Do you mean on body *not* helping? Otherwise I agree.
I meant seeing as more skill has always helped my learn rate I don't see why body wouldn't
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-29 08:07:50
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Blue magic skill tier iirc, poison duration.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-29 08:08:16
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
I'd disgree on body helping. I haven't gone out testing body... but any blu can tell you how much easier it is to learn spells when you have more skill. Besides later on most my kill shots were spells so had it on anyways
Do you mean on body *not* helping? Otherwise I agree.
I meant seeing as more skill has always helped my learn rate I don't see why body wouldn't

Yeah.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-29 08:13:13
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Spells I have never used for anything: Queesyshroom, blood drain, digest, feather barrier, hydroshot, asuran claws, ram charge... god feather barrier would be awesome though if duration didn't suck so much combine with cost and cast/recast
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-29 08:15:05
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Blue magic skill tier iirc, poison duration.
Didn't realize there was a skill tier for debuff durations...
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By Fenrir.Enternius 2011-03-29 08:16:20
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Fast Blade >> Queasyshroom creates a Gravitation skillchain, which can be MB'd off with Digest for some pretty good damage and drain. Same goes with Blood Drain I'm sure, but you get Digest right at the same time frame you get Chain Affinity so that's all I've used.

I'd imagine Feather Barrier would have more than a few uses when tanking in a trio group or something like that.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-29 08:17:04
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Well Queasyshroom has a use for testing, even though other spells can possibly be used this is a very weak one which makes it easier to test on low lvl mob. Digest I used decent bit in dynamis when I brought my BLU back in the 75 stone ages. Was a decent ~300 HP drain with obi and that is basically equivalent to a blm's drain spell, only cost around 20 mp as well. That was prior to self refresh and all the helpful doodads we have today. Barely could get a rdm in my pt, so had to make do.

Blood drain is pretty useless, feather barrier might have some niche use lol. Asuran claws is decent, I had counter set few times when I was main tanking something in the past at 75 cap and it has saved me a few ichi recasts. Ram charge was decent as /thf vs certain targets but never really did use it. The point is, some spells have potential use for something, stat boosts or otherwise. Also, seeing as how some old spells got used in new spell combo's, you never know.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-03-29 08:20:02
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I know I'm wasting my e-breath here but seriously? Even if you're too lazy to use the search function you can just peruse the blue forum. "Req. blue spells", "spells blu uses now" etc etc ad-nausiem.

I know it's too much to ask but Jesus people it's 50% of the blu forum lol.

I don't mind so much that you're going to leech abyssea to 90 and probably only wear a tp haste set and "do it wrong" because we have a good blu in our group and i'll never have to see you failing. I just ask that since you can't be bothered to do the job right you at least put forth the minimal effort to find the other 300 threads about "how to halfass this job I put no effort into leveling, gearing, or being useful on".

*cough* Sorry, I'm done.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-29 08:23:01
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Sorry bit of a fix here, Queasyshroom is the most reliable for testing TP based things because the poison duration is based directly on TP. A lot of testing was done with the AF3+2 BLU equips and certain TP bonus items/atma using this spell.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-29 08:32:10
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Meh I always did more dmg at lower lvls stacking stats and using the real dmg spells... and later on only a few lower lvl stuff was actually casted. As far as skillchain thing... well RLB jetstream by itself did alot more dmg and could always MB something like bombtoss

Feather barrier would be useful if it either was alot stronger or you it's duration was much longer. I mean it only last 30 sec and cast time of 2sec and recast of 2 min...

Sometimes ram charge could've been good... but VC/cannonball was always better.

Asuran isn't bad per se but by then so much better spells. And I never bothered playing with a counter set.

I guess using queesy shroom would be good for testing which tp bonuses actually effect blu spells than. Though if you were just testing values of most there are alot of ws that would be better for that. Speaking of which do any of them? Like equip/atmas?
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By Fenrir.Enternius 2011-03-29 08:33:52
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Jet Stream was also a huge MP sink when playing solo. Fast Blade >> Queasyshroom >> MP Drainkiss did less damage, of course, but it gave you MP.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-29 08:39:07
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Oh yeah solo sure maybe but people really wanted blu for pts when I lvld. Especially one that made his own juices :).

And if you are fighting something you can aspir sure though you could always terror touch to debuff it too or a couple of lvls later do sickle slash. Oh and it's RLB that starts gravitation anyways.

Either way I found making the fights take longer was often more of an mp sink than using bigger spells. Get that thing done before you had to start curing yourself
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-29 08:39:12
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Fenrir.Enternius said:
Jet Stream was also a huge MP sink when playing solo. Fast Blade >> Queasyshroom >> MP Drainkiss did less damage, of course, but it gave you MP.

I loved going BLU/THF to colibri camp, CA + BA red lotus blade > SA sickle slash > MP drainkiss (***always was on me though :/). Was awesome dmg and nice mp return, also Death scissors /thf was awesome as well.

Bahamut.Dasva said:


I guess using queesy shroom would be good for testing which tp bonuses actually effect blu spells than. Though if you were just testing values of most there are alot of ws that would be better for that. Speaking of which do any of them? Like equip/atmas?

Not sure, I know there was a lot of questions in regards to the WOTG final reward earring and if the TP bonus applied to BLU spells. Dunno if anyone got one to test though.
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By Asura.Ashleh 2011-03-29 09:14:12
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Bluban said:
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If you don't make use of every spell, you don't know ***about BLU. I make sure to check my logs to make sure fellow BLUs use Foot Kick and 1000 Needles as much as I do.
Indeed. I find 1000 Needles to be very intuitive and easy to use. It's my main damage dealing spell and the fact that it only costs 350MP to use is a plus in my book. Its 12 second casting timer is also a godsend when compared to the long casting timers of Quad. Continuum and other such inferior spells. I understand that the DD spells before LVL.62 are just there for filler and something to do before getting 1000 Needles and cruising for the rest of the game, but sometimes I wonder why SE even made DD spells (or any spell for that mater) after LVL.62. Edit. Also, that VIT and AGI bonus is a must have.

Different spells for different fights wether it's Parties or NM 's,but 1000 needles is pretty useless simple because of DMG vs MP loss even with relic body/AF3 gear and Battery charge.Quad,Dissev and Goblin rush use less MP and per hit +Dmg both kill 1000 needles....please don't listen to anyone here including myself try the spells yourself.Once you hit 70+ you won't even use spells like frentic rip any more.I've hit some NMs for 1700 with quad or Goblin Rush.As for Diamond Hide keep loaded in case anything party you do.


I have all the spells and I have used them all. I usually only set 1000 Needles and Magic Fruit for heals. That's all you need.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2011-03-29 09:23:05
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Just get them all. You may be called to be a proc'er, and having them all, Your assuring yourself, and your party, that you will have the spells needed, for an abyssea party. Not having all spells either, well, your kinda limiting yourself also.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-29 09:34:09
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Oh look, Neonracer was kind enough to go through and -1 all my posts.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-29 09:41:54
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Why do you need to get 100 spells to ensure you have a certain 16? Is this a tip for people that are completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-29 09:49:29
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Neon obviously has uncovered the secret that SE hid all this time.. all 100 spells can be used in lieu of current spells! Light based? Magic hammer time.
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