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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-03-23 12:31:14
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
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You seem to think that because they would start on a remake of FF7 it will halt all other game developing... please don't tell me that is what you think?
You seem to think it would have no effect on other game development...please don't tell me that is what you think? :P

looool, yet they do multiple games at the same time even reusing the same staff.
Yeah but they can't just make infinite games, thats absurd and an FFVII remake would be a huge project. Alot of other things would get shunned, I'm sure of it. A full HD game isn't something you can make on the side. This gen is what, like 6 years old, 7? And how many HD games has SE made? Nier, FFXIII, Star Ocean IV, FFXIV...and thats it right? I might be missing one or two. But pretty much less than one game a year. But compare that to their DS and PSP titles...theyve made alot more of those. If they made an FFVII remake I have no doubt that another big name release would be pushed back.

If they make a profit, it doesn't matter what it takes from. It's a sad excuse to a reason as to why they shouldn't remake FF7.
Then it comes to what they think fans would rather see...a remake of an old game or a brand new game. I can't answer that. I'd personally want a new game...but SE does have a spotty track record lately.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-23 12:32:27
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Asura.Sandolphon said:
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You seem to think that because they would start on a remake of FF7 it will halt all other game developing... please don't tell me that is what you think?
You seem to think it would have no effect on other game development...please don't tell me that is what you think? :P

looool, yet they do multiple games at the same time even reusing the same staff.
Yeah but they can't just make infinite games, thats absurd and an FFVII remake would be a huge project. Alot of other things would get shunned, I'm sure of it. A full HD game isn't something you can make on the side. This gen is what, like 6 years old, 7? And how many HD games has SE made? Nier, FFXIII, Star Ocean IV, FFXIV...and thats it right? I might be missing one or two. But pretty much less than one game a year. But compare that to their DS and PSP titles...theyve made alot more of those. If they made an FFVII remake I have no doubt that another big name release would be pushed back.

If they make a profit, it doesn't matter what it takes from. It's a sad excuse to a reason as to why they shouldn't remake FF7.
Then it comes to what they think fans would rather see...a remake of an old game or a brand new game. I can't answer that. I'd personally want a new game...but SE does have a spotty track record lately.

Well they are already making a sequel to ff13. Should have spent that time and remade FF7!
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By Sylph.Haxorking 2011-03-23 12:33:53
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
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Remaking FF7 and making a new FF game from scratch would be approximately the same amount of work. At this point the question becomes "Would we make more profit from a remake of ff7 or an entirely new FF?". I don't have a PhD in business, marketing, or accounting so I couldn't tell you the answer to that. That being said, unless you have that degree and happen to work for SE you shouldn't be making claims about their financial position.

No.

Yes

Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
The biggest problem I see is:

1) Unlike earlier FF's, FF7 had a very complex license and the IP is shared among various companies and port teams in multiple countries, many of whom no longer exist.

2) Almost all of the original artwork, videos, models, scenery, source code, etc has been lost, so there is no reference material and the game would have to be remade from scratch.

3) Fans can't decide what a "remake" even means.

They "remade" FF4 and FF6 by re-releasing the existing game with all the original graphics and a few cut-scenes added. They "remade" FF1 + 2 by redoing some of the existing sprites. Both of these were remakes to extremely cheap platforms to develop for (iOS, etc) and had remake budgets of only several hundred thousand dollars.

Neither would be within the realm of what fans want for a FF7 "remake," which tends to sound like a complete rewrite of the engine and all new 3D assets to current generation standards. Which would be about the same cost of just developing a brand new game, without the capacity to make as much.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-23 12:35:31
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No it wouldn't. A lot more would go into making a new game vs a graphics upgrade. You would need to create hype, a totally new story, new characters, a new gimmick for a new game. It is no where near the same work as rehashing an old game and keep the same story/gameplay but revamping graphics.
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By Wombat 2011-03-23 12:36:01
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
The biggest problem I see is:

1) Unlike earlier FF's, FF7 had a very complex license and the IP is shared among various companies and port teams in multiple countries, many of whom no longer exist.

2) Almost all of the original artwork, videos, models, scenery, etc has been lost, so there is no reference material and the game would have to be remade from scratch.

3) Fans can't decide what a "remake" even means.

They "remade" FF4 and FF6 by re-releasing the existing game with all the original graphics and a few cut-scenes added. They "remade" FF1 + 2 by redoing some of the existing sprites.

Neither would be within the realm of what fans want for a FF7 "remake," which tends to sound like a complete rewrite of the engine and all new 3D assets to current generation standards. Which would be about the same cost of just developing a brand new game, without the capacity to make as much.
That leaves out one major factor that has been discussed here: storyline and script. I say "major factor" because it's always brought up, not because I know it to be a relevant business consideration.

I'm curious as to how much the actual writing of the story and script affects the budget, in terms of development cost. Do companies like SE staff writers, or do they purchase scripts like a movie producer purchases screenplays? Is it even worth noting that the story is already written when discussing an FF7 remake?
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-03-23 12:36:15
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I'm not choosing one side over the other.

Let's look here, FF7 fans are only pushing this because there's been so much hype about it, and it's what they want.

Others are saying it won't happen because it's too much work for the money, and SE clearly stated that it won't happen.

SE has the resources and money to do whatever they want.
I'm convinced that they want to make as much money as possible.
FF7 still sells the way it is, so if this was a possibility, it's no where near the time.
As for them clearing stating that it wouldn't happen, if you've ever read any news posted from SE, you know this holds no ground. They are known to be deceiving on purpose. Just like in their games, they don't want you to know.
As for the difficulty in a revamp.
They could do it, I have no doubts of that. At the current time though, I don't think it would make the most of the future aspects of it. The difference between remaking a game 20 years old from the NES to now, is not the same as remaking a game from the PS1 to now (Regardless if it's 20 years or 40.) NES vs DS/PSP are a MUCH larger gap. Not only are you making something old, relevant again, but you're addressing old and new customers. Right now, the people that loved FF7 before, would be the same people that love FF7 in a remake.
It's not an impossibility, but right now is certainly not the time.
I'm sorry, you're a nice guy and all, but no. The way you make it sound (and correct if I'm wrong) is like...going from NES to DS is hard because the difference in technology is much different than PSX to PS3. Thats not how it works.

First, its not like they're converting the games to DS format and altering the files.

Secondly, the difference between NES to DS, coding wise, etc. is the same as PS1 to PS3 or PS2 to PS3 or even PS3 to 360. Its different hardware. (Now of course there is a little difference, the newer systems are more complicated to deal with, etc. but the point is that they don't share much.)

Lastly what this means is that there is no correlation between putting a NES game on DS and putting a PS1 game on PS3. One is essentially making a DS game from scratch or a PS3 game from scratch. The only advantage they have is that the story is already there, which isn't helping that much, trust me.
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By Alexander.Gib 2011-03-23 12:36:32
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Sylph.Haxorking said:
Remaking FF7 and making a new FF game from scratch would be approximately the same amount of work. At this point the question becomes "Would we make more profit from a remake of ff7 or an entirely new FF?". I don't have a PhD in business, marketing, or accounting so I couldn't tell you the answer to that. That being said, unless you have that degree and happen to work for SE you shouldn't be making claims about their financial position.

No.
again, how the hell would you know?

it's a REMAKE so they would have to REMAKE everything

do you create video game models? do you create engines? do you make textures?

the storyline doesn't take the majority of dev time, I mean I know it's hard but try to actually think

this isn't DS, 20 Poly Models won't fly, Unbuffered pixilated textures won't either, that is why they can pump those out rather fast. again, I'm sure that won't sink in
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By Fenrir.Fearforever 2011-03-23 12:36:34
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You just dont seem to understand how long it would take...
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-03-23 12:38:20
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Secondly, the difference between NES to DS, coding wise, etc. is the same as PS1 to PS3 or PS2 to PS3 or even PS3 to 360. Its different hardware. (Now of course there is a little difference, the newer systems are more complicated to deal with, etc. but the point is that they don't share much.)

I'm sorry but the coding for PS1/2 and PS3 is different, the PS3 uses a Cell processor and has completely different code
Maybe I wasn't clear but thats basically what I was trying to say. That just because systems are closer together in age doesn't mean its easy to go from one to the other.
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By Shiva.Cerderic 2011-03-23 12:38:20
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Asura.Sandolphon said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Asura.Sandolphon said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Asura.Sandolphon said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
You seem to think that because they would start on a remake of FF7 it will halt all other game developing... please don't tell me that is what you think?
You seem to think it would have no effect on other game development...please don't tell me that is what you think? :P

looool, yet they do multiple games at the same time even reusing the same staff.
Yeah but they can't just make infinite games, thats absurd and an FFVII remake would be a huge project. Alot of other things would get shunned, I'm sure of it. A full HD game isn't something you can make on the side. This gen is what, like 6 years old, 7? And how many HD games has SE made? Nier, FFXIII, Star Ocean IV, FFXIV...and thats it right? I might be missing one or two. But pretty much less than one game a year. But compare that to their DS and PSP titles...theyve made alot more of those. If they made an FFVII remake I have no doubt that another big name release would be pushed back.

If they make a profit, it doesn't matter what it takes from. It's a sad excuse to a reason as to why they shouldn't remake FF7.
Then it comes to what they think fans would rather see...a remake of an old game or a brand new game. I can't answer that. I'd personally want a new game...but SE does have a spotty track record lately.

Well they are already making a sequel to ff13. Should have spent that time and remade FF7!
eh, this doesn't justify anything either. they know FF13 won't be around long enough to make a sequel at some other point in time. let's imagine FFX-2 was good. If they released it years later instead of right after, while the game was still popular, not nearly as many people would have had interest in it. FF13 just isn't a good as the 'oldschool' ones. timing is really everything.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-23 12:38:26
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Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Sylph.Haxorking said:
Remaking FF7 and making a new FF game from scratch would be approximately the same amount of work. At this point the question becomes "Would we make more profit from a remake of ff7 or an entirely new FF?". I don't have a PhD in business, marketing, or accounting so I couldn't tell you the answer to that. That being said, unless you have that degree and happen to work for SE you shouldn't be making claims about their financial position.

No.
again, how the hell would you know?

it's a REMAKE so they would have to REMAKE everything

do you create video game models? do you create engines? do you make textures?

the storyline doesn't take the majority of dev time, I mean I know it's hard but try to actually think

Do you?
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By Fenrir.Fearforever 2011-03-23 12:38:43
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Asura.Sandolphon said:
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Secondly, the difference between NES to DS, coding wise, etc. is the same as PS1 to PS3 or PS2 to PS3 or even PS3 to 360. Its different hardware. (Now of course there is a little difference, the newer systems are more complicated to deal with, etc. but the point is that they don't share much.)

I'm sorry but the coding for PS1/2 and PS3 is different, the PS3 uses a Cell processor and has completely different code
Maybe I wasn't clear but thats basically what I was trying to say.

yeah just noticed that sorry ^.^
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By Carbuncle.Lodo 2011-03-23 12:39:22
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And really, a remake will sell nowhere near the number of units the original sold, I'd be surprised if it sold much more than Dirge.
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By Sylph.Haxorking 2011-03-23 12:40:11
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
No it wouldn't. A lot more would go into making a new game vs a graphics upgrade. You would need to create hype, a totally new story, new characters, a new gimmick for a new game. It is no where near the same work as rehashing an old game and keep the same story/gameplay but revamping graphics.

You sure know better than the SE press release crew don't you? You've got it all figured out. Even though you're probably not a game dev and have no experience as a CEO you know more than those idiots from the press. Even though they get all their information from SE what do they know, right?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-23 12:40:13
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And really, a remake will sell nowhere near the number of units the original sold, I'd be surprised if it sold much more than Dirge.

How can you know that and what are you basing that on?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-23 12:40:40
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Sylph.Haxorking said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
No it wouldn't. A lot more would go into making a new game vs a graphics upgrade. You would need to create hype, a totally new story, new characters, a new gimmick for a new game. It is no where near the same work as rehashing an old game and keep the same story/gameplay but revamping graphics.

You sure know better than the SE press release crew don't you? You've got it all figured out. Even though you're probably not a game dev and have no experience as a CEO you know more than those idiots from the press. Even though they get all their information from SE what do they know, right?

loool wow.
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By Bismarck.Torvak 2011-03-23 12:41:15
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yeah programmers charge too much for their services, when most sit about drinking coffee all day and code like demons at 4-5pm. nobodys bothered about doing it for the love of games anymore. it's just business. In other media like films ppl are doing what Industrial light and magic can do with $1000 PCs. So the amount of money involved in game production is just silly.
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-03-23 12:42:07
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Carbuncle.Lodo said:
And really, a remake will sell nowhere near the number of units the original sold, I'd be surprised if it sold much more than Dirge.
I bet if it was made it would sell as much as FFXIII. But just because it makes money isn't a reason for it to be made.
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By Alexander.Gib 2011-03-23 12:42:16
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Sylph.Haxorking said:
Remaking FF7 and making a new FF game from scratch would be approximately the same amount of work. At this point the question becomes "Would we make more profit from a remake of ff7 or an entirely new FF?". I don't have a PhD in business, marketing, or accounting so I couldn't tell you the answer to that. That being said, unless you have that degree and happen to work for SE you shouldn't be making claims about their financial position.

No.
again, how the hell would you know?

it's a REMAKE so they would have to REMAKE everything

do you create video game models? do you create engines? do you make textures?

the storyline doesn't take the majority of dev time, I mean I know it's hard but try to actually think

Do you?
thats a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE responds. Personally? minimal but I do know people in the biz, I know a guy that helped do Art Direction on the Wii game "The Conduit' and I'm not even claiming to know how it works. But at least I have my head in reality.

You're just making ignorant assumptions.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-23 12:43:00
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Asura.Sandolphon said:
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And really, a remake will sell nowhere near the number of units the original sold, I'd be surprised if it sold much more than Dirge.
I bet if it was made it would sell as much as FFXIII. But just because it makes money isn't a reason for it to be made.

That's reason enough for any company provided there isn't bad PR attached.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-23 12:43:26
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Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Sylph.Haxorking said:
Remaking FF7 and making a new FF game from scratch would be approximately the same amount of work. At this point the question becomes "Would we make more profit from a remake of ff7 or an entirely new FF?". I don't have a PhD in business, marketing, or accounting so I couldn't tell you the answer to that. That being said, unless you have that degree and happen to work for SE you shouldn't be making claims about their financial position.

No.
again, how the hell would you know?

it's a REMAKE so they would have to REMAKE everything

do you create video game models? do you create engines? do you make textures?

the storyline doesn't take the majority of dev time, I mean I know it's hard but try to actually think

Do you?
thats a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE responds. Personally? minimal but I do know people in the biz, I know a guy that helped do Art Direction on the Wii game "The Conduit' and I'm not even claiming to know how it works. But at least I have my head in reality.

You're just making ignorant assumptions.

No u
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By Alexander.Gib 2011-03-23 12:43:47
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
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And really, a remake will sell nowhere near the number of units the original sold, I'd be surprised if it sold much more than Dirge.

How can you know that and what are you basing that on?
lol, he's asking 'What are you basing that on?'

Fantastic
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-03-23 12:43:56
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Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Sylph.Haxorking said:
Remaking FF7 and making a new FF game from scratch would be approximately the same amount of work. At this point the question becomes "Would we make more profit from a remake of ff7 or an entirely new FF?". I don't have a PhD in business, marketing, or accounting so I couldn't tell you the answer to that. That being said, unless you have that degree and happen to work for SE you shouldn't be making claims about their financial position.

No.
again, how the hell would you know?

it's a REMAKE so they would have to REMAKE everything

do you create video game models? do you create engines? do you make textures?

the storyline doesn't take the majority of dev time, I mean I know it's hard but try to actually think

Do you?
thats a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE responds. Personally? minimal but I do know people in the biz, I know a guy that helped do Art Direction on the Wii game "The Conduit' and I'm not even claiming to know how it works. But at least I have my head in reality.

You're just making ignorant assumptions.
I've used pre made engines to *** around and make little sequences and stuff. Unreal, RPGMaker, and even then the ***is tedious and time consuming. I can't even imagine going from scratch with crafting a new engine, 3d models, etc.
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By Shiva.Cerderic 2011-03-23 12:44:22
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Asura.Sandolphon said:
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I'm not choosing one side over the other.

Let's look here, FF7 fans are only pushing this because there's been so much hype about it, and it's what they want.

Others are saying it won't happen because it's too much work for the money, and SE clearly stated that it won't happen.

SE has the resources and money to do whatever they want.
I'm convinced that they want to make as much money as possible.
FF7 still sells the way it is, so if this was a possibility, it's no where near the time.
As for them clearing stating that it wouldn't happen, if you've ever read any news posted from SE, you know this holds no ground. They are known to be deceiving on purpose. Just like in their games, they don't want you to know.
As for the difficulty in a revamp.
They could do it, I have no doubts of that. At the current time though, I don't think it would make the most of the future aspects of it. The difference between remaking a game 20 years old from the NES to now, is not the same as remaking a game from the PS1 to now (Regardless if it's 20 years or 40.) NES vs DS/PSP are a MUCH larger gap. Not only are you making something old, relevant again, but you're addressing old and new customers. Right now, the people that loved FF7 before, would be the same people that love FF7 in a remake.
It's not an impossibility, but right now is certainly not the time.
I'm sorry, you're a nice guy and all, but no. The way you make it sound (and correct if I'm wrong) is like...going from NES to DS is hard because the difference in technology is much different than PSX to PS3. Thats not how it works.

First, its not like they're converting the games to DS format and altering the files.

Secondly, the difference between NES to DS, coding wise, etc. is the same as PS1 to PS3 or PS2 to PS3 or even PS3 to 360. Its different hardware. (Now of course there is a little difference, the newer systems are more complicated to deal with, etc. but the point is that they don't share much.)

Lastly what this means is that there is no correlation between putting a NES game on DS and putting a PS1 game on PS3. One is essentially making a DS game from scratch or a PS3 game from scratch. The only advantage they have is that the story is already there, which isn't helping that much, trust me.
that wasn't my point there. it's the relevancy that the game still holds over the other. If you'd never played the game before, you're obviously going to play the remake over the original, because it's 'better'. the only reason the original would be better to anyone, is because it's oldschool and because it's the one they're used to. FF7 is still moderately relevant. It's much more likely that someone that has never played it before would get into FF7 before they'd get into the original of one of the others that HAVE been remade. the people that loved the game before are obviously going to play the new one. to get maximum profit they can, it's better to wait till you're appealing to new customers' interest.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-23 12:45:00
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Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Carbuncle.Lodo said:
And really, a remake will sell nowhere near the number of units the original sold, I'd be surprised if it sold much more than Dirge.

How can you know that and what are you basing that on?
lol, he's asking 'What are you basing that on?'

Fantastic

You sound mad bro?
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By Alexander.Gib 2011-03-23 12:45:24
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Sylph.Haxorking said:
Remaking FF7 and making a new FF game from scratch would be approximately the same amount of work. At this point the question becomes "Would we make more profit from a remake of ff7 or an entirely new FF?". I don't have a PhD in business, marketing, or accounting so I couldn't tell you the answer to that. That being said, unless you have that degree and happen to work for SE you shouldn't be making claims about their financial position.

No.
again, how the hell would you know?

it's a REMAKE so they would have to REMAKE everything

do you create video game models? do you create engines? do you make textures?

the storyline doesn't take the majority of dev time, I mean I know it's hard but try to actually think

Do you?
thats a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE responds. Personally? minimal but I do know people in the biz, I know a guy that helped do Art Direction on the Wii game "The Conduit' and I'm not even claiming to know how it works. But at least I have my head in reality.

You're just making ignorant assumptions.

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Shiva.Cerderic said:
Asura.Sandolphon said:
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I'm not choosing one side over the other.

Let's look here, FF7 fans are only pushing this because there's been so much hype about it, and it's what they want.

Others are saying it won't happen because it's too much work for the money, and SE clearly stated that it won't happen.

SE has the resources and money to do whatever they want.
I'm convinced that they want to make as much money as possible.
FF7 still sells the way it is, so if this was a possibility, it's no where near the time.
As for them clearing stating that it wouldn't happen, if you've ever read any news posted from SE, you know this holds no ground. They are known to be deceiving on purpose. Just like in their games, they don't want you to know.
As for the difficulty in a revamp.
They could do it, I have no doubts of that. At the current time though, I don't think it would make the most of the future aspects of it. The difference between remaking a game 20 years old from the NES to now, is not the same as remaking a game from the PS1 to now (Regardless if it's 20 years or 40.) NES vs DS/PSP are a MUCH larger gap. Not only are you making something old, relevant again, but you're addressing old and new customers. Right now, the people that loved FF7 before, would be the same people that love FF7 in a remake.
It's not an impossibility, but right now is certainly not the time.
I'm sorry, you're a nice guy and all, but no. The way you make it sound (and correct if I'm wrong) is like...going from NES to DS is hard because the difference in technology is much different than PSX to PS3. Thats not how it works.

First, its not like they're converting the games to DS format and altering the files.

Secondly, the difference between NES to DS, coding wise, etc. is the same as PS1 to PS3 or PS2 to PS3 or even PS3 to 360. Its different hardware. (Now of course there is a little difference, the newer systems are more complicated to deal with, etc. but the point is that they don't share much.)

Lastly what this means is that there is no correlation between putting a NES game on DS and putting a PS1 game on PS3. One is essentially making a DS game from scratch or a PS3 game from scratch. The only advantage they have is that the story is already there, which isn't helping that much, trust me.
that wasn't my point there. it's the relevancy that the game still holds over the other. If you'd never played the game before, you're obviously going to play the remake over the original, because it's 'better'. the only reason the original would be better to anyone, is because it's oldschool and because it's the one they're used to. FF7 is still moderately relevant. It's much more likely that someone that has never played it before would get into FF7 before they'd get into the original of one of the others that HAVE been remade. the people that loved the game before are obviously going to play the new one. to get maximum profit they can, it's better to wait till you're appealing to new customers' interest.
oic. I bet the profits would be larger now than later though. Don't have any evidence really, but its just a feeling. Feh, I sound HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Asura.Ashleh 2011-03-23 12:46:39
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I would really like to see a remake of X-2 for the XBOX360. *** the Ps3, that ***has terrible graphics.
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Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Alexander.Gib said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Sylph.Haxorking said:
Remaking FF7 and making a new FF game from scratch would be approximately the same amount of work. At this point the question becomes "Would we make more profit from a remake of ff7 or an entirely new FF?". I don't have a PhD in business, marketing, or accounting so I couldn't tell you the answer to that. That being said, unless you have that degree and happen to work for SE you shouldn't be making claims about their financial position.

No.
again, how the hell would you know?

it's a REMAKE so they would have to REMAKE everything

do you create video game models? do you create engines? do you make textures?

the storyline doesn't take the majority of dev time, I mean I know it's hard but try to actually think

Do you?
thats a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE responds. Personally? minimal but I do know people in the biz, I know a guy that helped do Art Direction on the Wii game "The Conduit' and I'm not even claiming to know how it works. But at least I have my head in reality.

You're just making ignorant assumptions.

No u


I think we're being trolled here
Seconded. Not sure for how long, though. Think he was serious at first.
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