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final fantasy 7 remake
Lakshmi.Jaerik
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-03-23 16:09:57
Guys, you have to realize that graphics and engine work make up about 80% of a current-gen AAA title's budget. Story, script, design, etc, is almost nothing.
So when you say things like "They should remake FF6 with some 3D" you are asking for an entirely new game from the business perspective. If it's going to cost you 80% what it would to make a new game, you need to sell 80% as many copies as you did the first time around, which remakes never come close to.
The situation could change years down the road, where the level of graphical fidelity, etc, that fans are expecting is cheaper than it is now, and you can get away with less. That's why it's now within SE's interest to "remake" games for say... iOS and PSP: it's cheap as hell. But until then, don't hold your breath.
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By Siren.Flunklesnarkin 2011-03-23 16:14:27
I'm sure graphics prices will become cheaper soon enough..
I mean the human eye can only perceive a certain level of graphics quality..
Once thats reached any more is just wasted processor power...
Then just have to wait for economies of scale to lower the price of the equipment....
Who knows tho.. maybe they will move into holographs and other junk 10 years down the line lol
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By Bismarck.Rinkydink 2011-03-23 16:21:45
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Guys, you have to realize that graphics and engine work make up about 80% of a current-gen AAA title's budget. Story, script, design, etc, is almost nothing.
heyyy i practically said that earlier!! waaaaahhh
/sulks
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-03-23 16:25:33
Asura.Ashleh said:
If you think you can find a game that has better graphics than that on the Ps3, go ahead and post screenshots... because I'm betting you can't.

say wat.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-06-26 19:20:08
Ohithur
Quote: According to Andriasang, Yoichi Wada, Square-Enix’s CEO, said during an investor question and answer session that his company will only make a Final Fantasy VII remake when the company makes a game that exceeds the quality of Final Fantasy VII. Yoichi Wada on why they won't remake ff7
apparently he has a pretty high opinion of the game, that rules out 8, 9, 10, 10-2, 11,12 , 13, 13-2, 14 as being better games. that, or he was just deflecting.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Darsha 2012-06-26 19:23:42
They have already done that. It was called FFIX.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-26 19:34:46
Quetzalcoatl.Darsha said: »They have already done that. It was called FFIV, FFVI, and FFIX.
ftfy
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By Bahamut.Lordzetta 2012-06-26 19:38:46
Wada may be talking about sales. None have sold more and the fact that versus has taken so damn long to come out I don't see it happening.With that said we will never get a remake. Now lets start asking for a tactics sequel :D and not the advance version.
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By Siren.Demetreos 2012-06-26 19:39:57
thisthreadagain.meme
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-06-26 19:42:17
As much as I liked Vivi I dont think IX was better than VII lol. And yeah nothing since X comes close.
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-06-26 19:47:50
I'm sure quality is an indicator as to how well it sold.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Darsha 2012-06-26 20:04:57
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Quetzalcoatl.Darsha said: »They have already done that. It was called FFIV, FFVI, and FFIX.
ftfy
I would normally agree with you since FFIV is my favorite of the entire series, but since the argument could be made that Yoichi Wada implied that until they make a game that surpasses FFVII since it's release. I figured I would just take a game that was superior to and released after VII. I'll never understand the VII bandwagon.
Inb4 "I'll never understand the VII haters bandwagon."
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-06-26 20:20:21
oh btw, SE created a site ( finalfantasyviipc.com) that google cached, but now requires a log in.
not sure how true it is or not, read up on it a few days ago but never posted about it.
/shrug
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By Jetackuu 2012-06-26 20:46:19
saw that 7 and 8 pc a few days ago too, looks interesting.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2012-06-26 20:46:19
That looks like a DS graphics remake or something, Kali...
I'd like to see a FF9 remake.
By Jetackuu 2012-06-26 20:48:57
That looks like a DS graphics remake or something, Kali...
I'd like to see a FF9 remake.
with a fixed jump rope, and a new game+ hell *** yeah, yes, please!
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-06-26 20:53:01
Where is this modded PC version Kalilla?
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By Leviathan.Kitheren 2012-06-26 21:07:31
Where is this modded PC version Kalilla? Yess where!
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By Siren.Dilandu 2012-06-26 21:07:31
Exact same port of FF7 for PC. They only added useless crap.
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SE is trolling adding Cloud Saves to FF7.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-06-26 21:15:29
Leviathan.Kitheren said: »Where is this modded PC version Kalilla? Yess where! Idk :( I just saw the picture and stole it
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-06-26 21:19:16
Leviathan.Kitheren said: »Where is this modded PC version Kalilla? Yess where! Idk :( I just saw the picture and stole it
:(! Awe. I'd gladly settle for this, lol.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-06-26 21:34:07
imo if they made a remake of FF7, no one would buy anything else from SE. It would have to be the grand finale for them as far as making any new final fantasies goes.
By Malphius 2012-06-26 21:38:41
A quick whois does indeed show this site as belonging to SE. Good catch!!
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-06-26 21:57:02
good thing i bumped an old thread and didn't make a new one huehuehuehue
By Jetackuu 2012-06-26 22:00:04
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: »imo if they made a remake of FF7, no one would buy anything else from SE. It would have to be the grand finale for them as far as making any new final fantasies goes.
not true at all, even with the past several failures, people still buy their products, the whole market imo is stagnant, and it's mostly because people fuss about graphics instead of gameplay, you pour the majority of your budget into how it looks over how it plays and you get crap, and that's what the past decade pretty much has been for the most part, and it's disgusting.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-06-26 22:03:56
Why exactly do we need a VII remake? Whats wrong with just playing it now?
By Jetackuu 2012-06-26 22:05:39
Why exactly do we need a VII remake? Whats wrong with just playing it now?
some people can't handle the way it looks.
personally I'd like a remake with a graphics overhaul, and the rest of the changes being optional (I've explained this numerous times in these type of threads, probably in this one too.)
to some it's part of the nostalgia though.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-06-26 22:06:37
Just seems unnecessary. If a game is good game play wise, don't really need to be remade.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-06-26 22:12:29
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: »imo if they made a remake of FF7, no one would buy anything else from SE. It would have to be the grand finale for them as far as making any new final fantasies goes.
not true at all, even with the past several failures, people still buy their products, the whole market imo is stagnant, and it's mostly because people fuss about graphics instead of gameplay, you pour the majority of your budget into how it looks over how it plays and you get crap, and that's what the past decade pretty much has been for the most part, and it's disgusting. Sure, we'll go with that.
Doesn't mean the sales on other products wouldn't start plummeting after the FF7 remake, though. I wouldn't underestimate the high expectations a lot of people put into gaming companies these days.
By Jetackuu 2012-06-26 22:14:58
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: »Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: »imo if they made a remake of FF7, no one would buy anything else from SE. It would have to be the grand finale for them as far as making any new final fantasies goes.
not true at all, even with the past several failures, people still buy their products, the whole market imo is stagnant, and it's mostly because people fuss about graphics instead of gameplay, you pour the majority of your budget into how it looks over how it plays and you get crap, and that's what the past decade pretty much has been for the most part, and it's disgusting. Sure, we'll go with that.
Doesn't mean the sales on other products wouldn't start plummeting after the FF7 remake, though.
doesn't mean they would either, that's a rather baseless assumption.
Just seems unnecessary. If a game is good game play wise, don't really need to be remade.
I say they should if they could do it cheaply, while maintaining true to the quality of the original, aka it would be an easy cash cow for them, other than that: I have mixed feelings, at the moment I'd rather see a fixed version of FF9.
if they keep on track of 20 aniversery thing ff7 will be remade with in next 5-6 years lol
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